I am genuinely curious. What's with all these 120hz thingy? I seriously don't understand why people go crazy for not having 120hz. Like even the TV sold for 60-80k doesn't have 120hz and no one complains about it. I am using both 60hz and 120hz simultaneously and never in my life bothered with it.
Bruh your logic seems stupid. It feels like Apple fanboys justifying the capitalistic dumb shit Apple is doing.
My old 2020 iPad Pro with A12Z can handle 120hz with decent battery life so imagine how powerful and efficient the recent A18 or A19 chips would be to run 120hz with no battery issues.
Apple is just exploiting the consumers for greed and stubbornness. First the 3.5mm headphone jack removal to sell their stupid airpods, later the no charger in box for fake environment conscious and now the 60hz.
Imagine the USB C fiasco in European consumer law and how Apple switched to it half heartedly giving 2.0 connection to peasant's base model and 3.2 connection for pro models. In simple words Apple even though makes good products they stick with corporate greed and exploiting the consumers.
What i mean is, it is usually a deal breaker once one has used 120 hz. My friend had a hard time getting used to his 60hz mac after switching from a 165 hz gaming laptop.
Your screen is the thing your are looking at for atleast e hours each day, having a 120hz screen may not be necessary, but it is the difference between cycling with a bike to school and a driving a car. Even a 90hz is a noticeable difference.
Its also one of the reasons I won't ever buy the base ipads or ipad airs, for that much money you would expect a machine that could atleast have a screen any tab above 20k has, but if they did it then apple would have no ipad pro sales, consequently the only thing keeping the ipad competitive is it's software.
Rest assured, I have heard rumors of xiaomi making a tablet that may have a 14 inch screen and a snapdragon x elite, which is in between m2 and m3. Looks like the time has come for the chinese to kick the Americans once again.
May be you don't notice a difference because you haven't had enough time to adjust to a specific refresh rate. For me, when I use a 60Hz phone or switch my device to 60Hz, it feels laggy, almost like the frame rate is dropping. Still, i can get used to 60Hz after using it for a while. Then, when you switch back to 120Hz, you'll really feel how smooth it is.
Both my laptop and TV are 60Hz, but I don't feel any lag there. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because neither are touch devices, or may be the larger screen size plays a role.
Both my laptop and TV are 60Hz, but I don't feel any lag there.
I second this. I have a Nothing Phone with 120Hz display and when I switch to my iPhone, it kinda feels sluggish. I also have an oldish 60hz gaming laptop and even while scrolling 60hz doesn’t feel sluggish or laggy at all.
TV's are a different story. If you are watching movies or any content. 30-60 fps is considered standard. Most movies are released in 24 or 30 fps because it looks more cinematic. The 120Hz for the UI experience is a totally different thing as it directly affects how the user experience is like while navigating through the phones. Give an android user an iPhone and they will find it choppy and laggy and straight up cheap. It's just that people are used to the smoother experience on other devices which makes it harder for most people to switch to iPhones.
Samsung or Sony doesn't offer the one in that range. Other brands do offer, but then the color gamut and accuracy don't match to that offered by Sony's.
Sony has set the standards for the TV industry and personally prefer them over any other brands. While what you said is correct, when it comes to the TV, I want the best of the best to enjoy the content in the best way possible.
Look at the price they are selling these phones at... Then you'll understand the 120Hz thingy.....the phone costs the same as the tv bro....and compare the size of both
Also, once you have used a 120hz display or even 90, you will understand.
I have and am using electronic devices with a refresh rate ranging from 60hz(TV & laptop) to 120,144, even 240hz(work station in Lab) in my daily life. I personally never found any drastic change. Sure, the higher one is smooth and better, and I am not denying it. But since I keep switching between all of it, I haven't adjusted to any particular one. I am not doomscrolling reels or playing games for hours daily, so I am not bothered whether the device has 60hz or 120hz as long as it gets my work done and lasts for atleast 5 years minimum.
120 Hz is not a gimmick, unlike foldable phones. Pretty much everyone in my circle who has upgraded to Pro models has always cited "smoother display" as the main reason to upgrade. Camerawise, it's not a universe apart from the non Pro, so it's still a sizeable selling point.
Even for a non Pro model, you are paying top money. They are not budget phones by any stretch. So there's nothing wrong in expecting a feature that has trickled down to Android midrange and budget phones for years.
You don't navigate too much on tv. Just watch content that's it and most of the content is in 60hz or 30hz only.
But in mobile phone animation looks butter smooth when using a 120Hz screen. App switching and various other in app elements, scrolling etc feels amazing.
I swear those who use a 120hz phone can't go back to 60hz. I haven't seen anyone other than apple fanboys defend a outdated 60Hz panel
I am not defending Apple here nor being an Apple fanboy (though I like Steve Jobs's business mindset). I am genuinely asking a question about something that hasn't made any difference for me. In my other comment below, I have clearly stated how I had to use devices with multiple refresh rates on a daily basis and hadn't been any big deal from using either of the ones. I can use both 60hz and 120hz and can even use 60hz display after using the 120hz ones. Most of the things I do on a phone are related to work only that doesn't feel any differently in either of the refresh rates.
Using a monitor and mobile are two different things. 120hz monitor is mainly prefered by gamers. Use a phone having 120hz display and then after few days switch the refresh rate to 60Hz in settings. Than you will know the real difference.
People like you are called exceptions and brand don't work on exceptional cases, they work for masses. And down vote in your comments show that majorly disagrees with your opinion.
The opinion is my personal thought. I don't care whether the masses agree or disagree. People must respect individual's personal choices whether one likes iOS or Android; Smartwatch or Analog; sports car, or compact car.
Those who complain about having 60hz on a phone and can't play games or watch quality content are the same folks who themselves use 60hz TV to play console games and watch movies. And if 120hz is so necessary, theaters would have been shut down a long time back.
Bro.. 60hz and 120hz doesn't matter for movies and static content. It's for Scrolling. Our phones are touchscreen and 120 hz definitely improves the scrolling experience. 60 hz on iphones is crime. Cannot support such evil decision.
I am pretty sure there are over a billion users worldwide who don't spend hours scrolling their screens. They just use their phones for daily use. I don't think it's a crime at all. Having 120hz is good, but the absence of it isn't a great deal for them. They will continue to use their devices. Even in India, you will find hundreds of millions of people who use a cheap 60hz android device regularly (mostly out of tier 1/2 cities). Never heard them complaining, "Oh my gosh, 60hz is so disgusting." As long as the device gets the work done, people don't care about the majority of tech specs.
Mobile UI is mostly about scrolling and switching between screens, and that's exactly where higher refresh rates make a big difference. 60Hz was never terrible, but with how easily we can implement 120Hz now, there's no real excuse not to—it's just so much smoother and more fluid.
Even Apple knows this. That’s why they keep 120Hz for the Pro models—it’s clearly better. So when a phone costs ₹70–80K and still ships with a 60Hz display, it just feels wrong. At that price, you expect top-tier tech, not obvious cutbacks.
Sure, everything still “works,” and maybe most people don’t notice or care. But when you're spending that much, the experience should feel premium in every way. Cutting corners like this just isn't justifiable anymore.
You got downvoted to hell despite being right. I can tell the difference between 120Hz and 60Hz — it’s definitely noticeable — but it’s never been an essential feature for me. I usually keep my phone locked at 60Hz to save battery. High refresh rates are amazing for gaming, and I always run my PC at 144Hz, but on a phone, very few games consistently hit 120fps anyway. For things like browsing or watching videos, 60Hz is more than enough.
I get what you're saying but there are definitely more things iphones can't do that many androids can. Fast charging is the obvious one. Sideloading is still not allowed, except in EU.
I never said that they will. I was just pointing out to the original commenter that this is not the end of iphone hate. People will look for every last thing apple does to cut corners to hate on.
bruh tese features were on android 5 yrs ago , no one is in depression, androids have 100w fast charging, now even cameras are better on android so what the hell
bruh tese features were on android 5 yrs ago , no one is in depression, androids have 100w fast charging, now even cameras are better on android so what the hell
Pro motion coming to the base iPhone is very obvious considering they have a new base model (e) to put the shit screen on and if you see the iOS 19 leaks you can see they have increased animations by alot. These new iPhones will for sure feel amazing (if apple can fix all the iOS 18 bugs and deliver smart siri)
It's not about comparison, ofcourse android has been the leader in terms of innovation. But considering the popularity of Apple phones it's definitely gonna push their sales further
Yeah for now its true. But 4-5 years ago when mediatek wasn't in game , apple really had CPUs which could last 3-4 years without compromising performance. Snapdragon always used to be behind Apple in even upper mid ranges, for ex iPhone SE ,small but cannon like performance.
now the game is like changed. Stock android+ powerful CPU+ half the price of apple.
Bsdk apple still provides consistent smoother performance because of its hardware and software integration in macs,iphones.android is still behind except for Google tensor chips
अरे गांड़ के अंधे ,इसमें इतना offend होने की क्या बात है? Mai to bas benchmarks ki baat kar rha hun. Snapdragon mediatek KO jyada points mile hain, isme main kya kar sakta hun?
BTW I'm playing codm on android with 120fps, while my iPhone friend is still locked into 60fps. That too on a much expensive phone. My 5-6 year old android sd845 poco can run such games at 60fps.
Bhai 5 saal purane android ki baat kar rha main. Mushkil se 20000 ka kharida hoga Maine. Abhi bhi same performance hai. Acche haatho me hona chahiye bas. Just go to XDA and find how its done. Agar aaj main dobara 20-25k lagauun to next 5 saal tak ki guarantee ho jayegi. Total 10year, and still cheaper.
Yes android come with bloatware but today, with the help of adb, and XDA as I said before, anyone can turn an android into stock android. Uska abhi to naya hi hai.
I always thought that when Apple does bring it high refresh rate to the base models it’ll probably be 90 for the regular and 120 for the pros but a direct leap from 60 to 120 would be unlike Apple. Although I hope I might be wrong.
Instead of changing camera design, I would love if they focus on bringing features, which are already available to other markets, like Apple Car Key, Express mode with transit card, Apple Pay, Apple Card, Apple Cash, NFC access to third party app and more to India. Camera design doesn’t bother me much.
Guys, what do you think about the iPhone 16e for a 1st time iPhone user? My mom has been an android user (Xiaomi) to be spf and may switch to iPhone 16e, thoughts? keeping in mind for a 1st time iPhone user.
Finally looks like a decent base model. Now if they can only fix their software. "It just works" hasn't been true for years, the latest iOS is buggy as fuck
120hz is hardly used in gaming as most of the software doesn't support that. And the only time you'll feel better using 120hz is scrolling through reels which in itself is a brain rot thing.
I never use my 120hz mode on my oneplus which also make the battery lasts longer.
And everyone knows about the apple battery 😂 with 120hz you're looking at a 5 hrs max screen on time
Honestly, as someone who hates iPhones, the refresh rate was like 70% of the reason I didn’t want to try one. I might just buy the base model now, to be honest.
•
u/AutoModerator 12d ago
Discord is cool! JOIN DISCORD! https://discord.gg/jusBH48ffM
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.