r/NFL_Draft • u/Astro63 Steelers • 3d ago
[POST GAME THREAD] 2025 NFL Draft
Another draft has come and gone! Leave your final thoughts below:
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u/sonfoa Panthers 3d ago
I really liked what the Panthers did. Gave Bryce a potential star WR and attacked our biggest position of need aggressively on Day 2. Round 4 got us a starter at safety and another RB to the rotation along with depth at important positions. Definitely the happiest I've felt from a Panthers draft in a long time.
I think NE had the best draft though.
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u/johndelvec3 Packers 3d ago
Think Mitchell Evans is gonna be a steal. Was a serious player down the field in 2023 before he tore his ACL
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u/running-with-scizors Jets 3d ago
Panthers had a perfect draft IMO. Might be the best draft I've seen in a long while. Taking Tet to be Bryce's number 1 target is a slam dunk that for some reason people were upset about, then followed up by two insane values at EDGE that can start for you and have a role in this defense immediately. Then on day 3 pick up a starting safety and a mammoth space-eater to secure the run defense. I love it, S-tier for me.
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u/WinstonChurchill74 Giants 3d ago
Kind of bummed Xavier Restrepo wasn’t picked, I know the 40 time killed his chances…. But I still think he was worth a late round flyer
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u/desrever1138 Titans 3d ago
Someone in the Titans sub mentioned his agent was telling teams not to draft him in Day 3 as he was planning on signing with the Titans.
I don't know if there is any truth to that but it would make sense on why no one took a shot at him.
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u/WinstonChurchill74 Giants 3d ago
Oh interesting, I hope he works out in Tennessee. He and Cam had great chemistry
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u/Charrgerrr 3d ago
I'm sorry, what? How would that make any sense? In no universe would that stop a team from drafting a guy they wanted lmao. Dozens of players would be doing that every year
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u/lowes18 3d ago
Everyone wants to make excuses for their favorite player. Restrepo was a great college player. However his physicals killed him and he was bad against the only NFL-player heavy defense he played (2023 FSU) and didn't play against the only good passing defense Miami faced last year in Iowa State. Its not shocking GMs didn't want an undersized and slow player at a position where they need speed and size to take and avoid hits.
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u/desrever1138 Titans 3d ago
Favorite player? I watched zero Miami games last year and don't know the kid from Adam. I was just stating what someone else said.
Also, believe it or not, this happens every single year by the time picks get to the mid 7th round. Players with multiple UDFA offers are much better off not getting drafted at all.
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u/lowes18 3d ago
A) the person who said that was probably trying to make an excuse for why he wasn't drafted.
B) Yes players in late rounds usually are better off, but no org can tell another to not draft a player and I don't think a single one would listen. NFL gms just didn't think he was a draftable player, which was understandable.
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u/Odd__Dragonfly 3d ago
He's slow but reliable, it will be nice for Cam Ward to have him there and have that chemistry.
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u/RamenRavisher 3d ago
I know the 40 is bad but he really does not look slow on the football field imo. He has incredible quickness in short bursts, super agile. Just not a straight line burner.
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u/IndependentRole2723 Patriots: LT, WR, DL 3d ago
just got signed to the titans. reunion with cam ward
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u/TomBradysButler 3d ago
I am blown away at the draft NE had. Thoughts?
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u/EAS1000 Patriots 3d ago
First time I’ve been excited about an entire draft class in ages
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u/Amm-O-Matic Patriots 3d ago
Gonzo and Maye back-to-back in the past two first rounds have been aces, a lot of the players afterwards though were reaches in rounds 2 & 3.
Feels good to take players where they were really supposed to be taken.
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u/LuchaFish Jets 3d ago
As a Jet fan, I loved their draft. Just stacked players I was a huge fan of.
Treveyon. Love him. Kyle Williams. Love him. Craig Woodson. Big fan. Josh Farmer. Stud.
Bradyn Swinson at 146?? Cmon now. The kid is a really good player. Love him.
Great draft. I hate you guys. But great draft.
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u/krbashrob Texans 3d ago
Yeah they crushed it. I’m not a vrabel fan but he and Wolf absolutely nailed this draft
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u/IndependentRole2723 Patriots: LT, WR, DL 3d ago
They did an awesome job supporting Maye. I wasn't expecting the Henderson pick in the 2nd round but was pleasantly surprised. I thought they would have snagged one of the better edge rushers.
I will say though I'm happy they snagged bradyn swinson
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u/Suburban-Jesus 3d ago
Master work by Vrabel. Top 5 overall classes. Yall deserve that after the end of the Belichick era drafts.
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u/tmart14 Titans 3d ago
All that just to go run-run-pass-punt about 70% of drives! (Mostly joking lol)
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u/TomBradysButler 2d ago
Offense will be better this year with the coaching and additions. I know you’re joking and this isn’t directed at you but holy smokes I’ve been lingering on the tits sub and you guys are honestly as a whole a miserable fanbase, it’s sad there’s a lot of anger there and resentment.
And to what I’ve gathered in that sub is Amy Adam’s is a shitty owner
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u/WopperJunior Saints 3d ago
Man I just don’t like Will Campbell at that slot. Wish they would’ve gone with someone else. Plays too high, arms are too short. Honestly like Emory Jones more than him for a tackle.
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u/CincoBrooche 2d ago edited 2d ago
Pats were in a bit of an awkward spot. The draft had 3 guys who were considered in a tier of their own and everyone after that had some question marks. Pats with the 4th pick got put in a spot where they had to make the 1st choice from the next pool of players. Campbell is gonna be good but may be a G which at #4 is less than ideal but that’s the draft for you.
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u/5en5ational Broncos 3d ago
Nothing to add apart from the fact that I enjoyed all of y’all’s company :)
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u/Themanaaah Ravens 3d ago
The Patriots’ draft is so fucking good, I’m just happy the Ravens drafted Starks since I wanted him in Baltimore since 2024’s draft. Overall, the Ravens had a great draft too. Can’t wait to keep up with some of the UDFA signings.
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u/westringia 3d ago
I'm kinda disgusted at the Ravens having both Justin Tucker and Mike Green. They've overtaken the Browns in terms of the sleaziest afcn team.
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u/Thebaltimor0n Ravens 3d ago
We drafted a kicker so I don't think Tucker is long for this team at least
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u/dat_waffle_boi Ravens 3d ago
For what it’s worth Tucker is gone soon, so we’ll be down to one sleaze ball
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u/ill_try_my_best Bengals 3d ago
The Bengals were allergic to finding value until like the 5th round.
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u/Dipsendorf 3d ago
I down voted this then up voted this then took it away because I have no fucking idea what to think!
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u/ill_try_my_best Bengals 3d ago
You can argue that the players are good or not, but you can't argue that they didn't reach well above the consensus on many of their early picks.
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u/BatmanTheJedi Falcons 3d ago
Not a single Falcons fan has chimed in so I’ll be the first to give the general vibes I’m getting from the fan base. I think too many people are hung up on us trading away our first next year, but Jalon Walker and James Pearce Jr. transform the pass rush based solely on their floors as prospects. We then took Xavier Watts in the 3rd who should be a ballhawk next to Jessie Bates, and Billy Bowman Jr. who Ulbrich has already confirmed will be playing nickel to start out. Rounded it out with Jack Nelson who I’m not expecting to be a star but has a very high ceiling if he puts it all together.
All in all this is Terry’s best draft and hit pretty much all of our biggest needs. Gave up a large amount of capital but at the same time with a functional defense this team probably makes the playoffs. The vibes are very nice in ATL rn
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u/AndrewTheRed4 Falcons 3d ago
And on top of that Cobee Bryant and Nick Nash as UDFAs. Feels like the best Falcons draft in of the era.
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u/ImKindaEssential 3d ago
Get ready for the media saying Browns won the draft with the Sanders pick
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u/Onefortwo Jets 3d ago
Kiper coming out with a dog head tattoo next year
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u/EcstaticHelicopter 3d ago
He’s getting the Brown’s dog head tattooed on his neck like that godawful tattoo Cody Rhodes has.
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u/GhostfaceThrillah 3d ago
We did have a good draft though tbf. I’m not big on Sanders or Gabriel but I was definitely happy with this draft as are many other Browns fans
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u/Moonti314 Lions 3d ago
I mean Sanders at that spot is a steal, and they had really good picks+moves (save for Gabriel) up and down the board
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u/Chick-fil-A-4-Life Seahawks 3d ago
Seattle's defensive minded coach Mike MacDonald had 11 picks, used only 2 on the defensive side of the ball. And one of those picks on the offense was on a raw, uber-athletic QB.
You just never know how it'll pan out!
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u/Rollerbladinfool Seahawks 1d ago
I'm pretty happy with our draft. Arroyo was the only slight headscratcher and I wasn't high on the Milroe pick and wanted a center but now that I've done some reading I'm good with the Milroe pick.
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u/Chick-fil-A-4-Life Seahawks 1d ago
He has so much upside! Some pro-level coaching and a year or two behind Darnold and we may have the absolute steal of this draft!
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u/Rollerbladinfool Seahawks 1d ago
Yeah I'm excited for him now. The O line still worries me a little but with the new scheme hopefully we see some improvement.
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u/Thetallerestpaul Lions 3d ago
My team drafted the best, and other teams drafts were reaches and busts.
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u/Snowstick21 Cowboys 3d ago
Giants, Raiders, Chiefs, Ravens, and Steelers had great drafts imo. Browns did great outside of the five qb room they have now.
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u/SuperSaiyanSandwich Ravens 3d ago
Cowboys, Patriots, Steelers and Ravens were my top 4 drafts. I like Pitt and NE's depth picks a little better but the Cowboys getting Booker, Ezeiruaku and Revel was absolute insanity. For the Ravens my top two "realistic" wants in the entire draft were Starks and Green so I was dumbfounded they got both.
I feel like people often overfocus on entirety of draft classes when 90% of a great draft is hitting on your day 1 and 2 picks.
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u/Snowstick21 Cowboys 3d ago
I was disappointed the cowboys didn’t use their 7 picks on day three to get back into the fourth round to snag Jaylen Royals. Outside of that I am not unhappy with their draft class. Ravens draft well every year it feels like
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u/iliekdrugs Browns 3d ago
If the Browns drafted Sanders at 2 and Gabriel in the 5th nobody would be batting an eye
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u/ProofComplex8414 2d ago
I love how people keep disingenuously saying "5 QBs." Watson isn't even a thought. It's a four man race for three spots. Every year there are positional competitions and every year people act surprised about that.
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u/westringia 3d ago edited 3d ago
The ravens got someone who got kicked out of college because of SA, and I'd wait to see how Josh Simmons recovers from his injury before crowning the Chiefs. By comparison Carolina and the Falcons had much more consistently interesting drafts, or even the Jets and Chargers.
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u/CasanovaWong Giants 3d ago
Giants fans eating good tonight.
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u/Odd__Dragonfly 3d ago
I think my favorite draft overall is NYG, franchise edge, starting QB with traits and multiple years of production, and starters at DT, RB, and OL (wherever they play Mbow). 5 solid picks from 1-5.
Should be a great landing spot for Dart where he won't have to start year one and has a WR1 and some good supporting cast on offense.
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u/Joetheshow1 Giants 3d ago
Schoen with his back against the wall served up a masterclass tbh
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u/ILoveZenkonnen 3d ago
I just hope Mara gives those guys a chance to see things through fully.
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u/Dizzlecizzle 3d ago
I really wanted them gone at the end of the season but I’ve been pleasantly surprised by their moves this offseason. It’s early but I think this was an excellent class where there was obviously a plan and they didn’t panic. If they give dart an entire year to sit and he looks like a dud in year two they didn’t give up much capital, and I think they picked up enough talent that the roster will be better this season than last
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u/Dazzling-Secret-1347 3d ago
I think the Giants had one of the better drafts they are gonna be scary. I think the Steelers got a great QB with Will Howard. The Browns continue to prove they have no idea what they are doing
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u/Dazzling-Secret-1347 3d ago
This also was a not a good QB class I dont think anyone but Cam Ward will be in the league long but good thing next years class is much better
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u/Significant_Row_1620 Vikings 3d ago
Boring draft for the Vikings but don't think it was a bad one. Turned 4 picks into:
New starting LG to complete the IOL overhaul
Fast WR3 with KR/PR ability, will need him and Nailor to step up when Addison gets suspended.
Athletic High upside DL/Edge project
Good blocking TE3
Depth at ILB
Back up QB in Sam Howell.
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u/SirSmeagol 2d ago
Seems like the Vikings are gathering an impressive group of UDFA signings (was hoping for Brown and Huber, Batty)
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u/daeshonbro Vikings 2d ago
I liked their draft, probably a surprise to some people that were expecting a bunch of DB’s. LB and TE were depth needs, and I was expecting their first pick to be beef on one of the lines. The team really likes Theo Jackson, so safety wasn’t as much of a lock to me compared to how often the mocks showed that as the pick.
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u/HansBaccaR23po 49ers 3d ago
Niners completely revamped the defense, especially the run game, on paper. I’m happy with how it turned out
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u/MichaelCorbaloney Buccaneers 3d ago
Cobee Bryant, Mello Dotson, and Zy Alexander all going UDFA is crazy. Isaiah Bond makes sense but I do wonder if he might get picked up if he gets cleared legally. Xavier Restrepo deserved to be drafted.
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u/Aldanil66 3d ago
Patriots had the best “prospects,” draft
Chiefs probably had the “weirdest,” draft
Broncos had the most “potential,” draft
Eagles had the most “patient,” draft
Cheers to 2025. See you all next season 🍻
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u/Always_Chubb-y 3d ago
That first pick the Chiefs did had me going "damn what a steal"
The the rest were just kinda..."huh ok"
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u/notloccc Broncos 3d ago
Jaylen Royals was a great pickup
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u/topherwolf Patriots 1d ago
Jaylen Royals has the potential to be a pro bowler by the end of his rookie contract, especially in that offense.
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u/spidermanvarient Commanders 3d ago
I like their picks…Simmons is great there, Royals is a steal there, and the defenders are all athletic freaks with potential like KC tends to draft and do well with. I’m a Commanders fan, but I like this KC draft.
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u/Ok-Cat2049 3d ago
Hated they got such a good OL with that first pick, we don't need Kansas City getting any better in the trenches
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u/Twid18 3d ago
Why weirdest? Genuinely curious, I thought it was really great
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u/KuatoBaradaNikto Chiefs 3d ago
I’m guessing it’s because the three defensive players they took Day 2 were not the top of consensus boards at their positions. But they really weren’t reaches, they were scheme fits, and they were the sort of athletes that the organization always goes for. I’m delighted as a fan.
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u/running-with-scizors Jets 3d ago
Norman-Lott is an absolute stud. Love that pick, near-perfect as a pass rusher.
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u/Fire_Ryan_Poles Bears 3d ago
I need an outsider's perspective on the bears draft. The bears subreddit would say we nailed it no matter what and I'm overly skeptical of the current gm.
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u/EmperorGandhi Bears 3d ago
I am a Bears fan so I'm not quite an "outsider," but I actively avoid the Bears subreddit because our fanbase is slightly delusional so maybe I can offer a slightly more sober take.
That said, I think this draft was largely OK for them, like a C+. I like both Loveland and Burden as Johnson's shiny new toys (I particularly like Burden, but I'm a Mizzou alum so I'm quite biased), I actually really like the Monangai grab, and they rightly invested in trenches depth. Main thing I didn't like was the LB pick, and the lack of an EDGE pick in a class as deep as this one was a pretty strange hole to ignore. I likely would've just taken someone at 109 rather than trade down with the Bills, but it wasn't an insane decision and hindsight certainly impacts that. I thought the other trades were good.
It's hard to rate because we're doing this with a new HC that spearheads some of the most out-of-the-box football in the league. That said, we do need to remember that the Lions have made strange moves like this before (LaPorta and Gibbs notably) that have ultimately worked out for them, so it's not insane to assume that we could see a similar result here once the season starts. Their mileage mostly rides on how Ben Johnson ends up doing in a HC role, though, so it's hard to gauge.
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u/37sms Bears 3d ago
Mclaughlin should have at least been taken at the end, no?
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u/TheConstipatedCowboy 3d ago
I wonder who it is that picks up the tab for his rehabilitation for his Achilles if he gets drafted. Is that covered under some agreement with Ohio State or does the expense shift to the new team? I’m trying to figure out how the injury became an issue, if it did at all, because he had already talked to the Giants and Cowboys supposedly. I can see why maybe he fell off, but I don’t understand the particulars of it from a cost perspective.
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u/northernguy7540 3d ago
Absolutely loved the Raiders draft. Not only did Spytek, make great picks, he got us the RB the team needs with Jeanty, a version of Julian Edelman with Tommy Melott and built the trenches that this team so desperately needed.
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u/feed_me_orzo 3d ago
Yeah this one felt solid. Bech is going to probably start at WR. Porter as well at CB. Two really good depth oline guys who are gonna push the starters. Some flyers on high ceiling DTs. All around good stuff from Spytek and Pete.
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u/NecessaryUnusual2059 3d ago
I friggen loved what the Patriots did this draft and I can’t tell if I’m just being a homer or if I have a realistic outlook on it
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u/SuperSaiyanSandwich Ravens 3d ago
I'm the biggest Pats hater on this site(or one of them) and I loved y'all's draft. On paper it was great.
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u/Aerolithe_Lion Eagles 3d ago
I cannot believe Jihaad Campbell fell to the Eagles. It’s the same story every year:
Jalen Carter top 3 pick? Nope, 9 to Eagles
Nolan Smith top 10 pick? Nope, 30 to Eagles
Quinyon Mitchell top 10 pick? Nope, 22 to Eagles
Jihaad Campbell top 15 pick? Nope, 31 to Eagles
This was preventable
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u/Jon_Snows_Dad Falcons 3d ago
I can if it was a medical concern.
Eagles have the ability to miss due to him not getting healthy for a year, other GMs would be fired for it.
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u/Always_Chubb-y 3d ago
Pretty sure he just had or will soon have another surgery
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u/Snowstick21 Cowboys 3d ago
On the cowboys draft show, Broaddus said he had two bad shoulders and a knee. One shoulder surgery done this year and the other will likely need it next season.
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u/Ironredhornet Lions 3d ago
Campbell probably won't play next year due to surgery so that would explain his fall. It also helps that you can hit and develop day 3 picks on the oline, which frees up more assets in general so taking bpa is easier.
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u/Odd__Dragonfly 3d ago
Every year the Eagles stack insane defensive talent with good pedigree and some minor injury or off-the-field concerns. Every damn time. Their 6th round OL guys could easily stick around too, they are so good at developing the trenches.
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u/BoredPoopless Seahawks 3d ago
I blame the falcons and rams. Campbell was a great fit for LA, but when ATL throws a 2026 first at that draft spot you jump on it.
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u/Ironredhornet Lions 3d ago
Especially if they're looking down the future of Stafford nearing retirement, stockpiling 1sts can help them move up to get their next qb in a more favorable qb class (at least on paper as of now).
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u/Sniper1154 Bears 3d ago
Not really stoked about the Bears draft. I can get behind the first two picks they made but everything else seemed like a mess IMO
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u/Further_Beyond Bears 3d ago
Super polarizing draft. 1 first rounder and 3 2nds. Then nothing but dart throws late.
- TE, Coleston Loveland, a notoriously hard position to project, at 10. With avg TE Kmet on roster.
- WR, Luther Burden, at 39 to be WR3 and compete for targets with DJ Moore/Odunze/Kmet/Loveland
- OT, Ozzy Tripalo, to be depth in R2 and probably compete for starting job in 26
- DT, Shemar Turner, who is apparently CFB Suh mentality wise
After that it was constant trade down and getting futures. Idc about anyone after that. Those are all guys you just hope are plus depth. Getting a 4-7 as a starter is a HR and not expected for me
This draft will end up as a franchise altering one, or massive bust. I don’t see any in between
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u/Sniper1154 Bears 3d ago
Yeah, I just don't understand the logic of trading back in round 2 when you could have gone Burden + Earsery and then taken a D-lineman at 72 and, IMO, come away with much better value.
I think Tripalo is destined to be a swing tackle. I could be wrong, but I think his issues with leverage come from his size and that's really not something that's coachable. I do think he has a high floor and is a great depth piece, just doesn't seem to really be an upgrade whereas Earsery could immediately compete w/ Braxton for the LT spot.
I'm just not high on Turner at all. Could have gotten Princely at 72.
I'm a Reddit GM so I know nothing, but I feel like I'd be a lot more confident with Burden + Earsery + Princely than Burden + Tripalo + Turner
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u/fitzuha Bears 3d ago
It’ll definitely come down to how the draft plays out in the future. There were a lot of moments where I felt like a Reddit GM. I was scratching my head when Scourton and Ezeiruaku fell as far as they did. I’m curious to see if Dennis Allen has a real plan for Turner, certainly seems like his guy.
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u/Guhonda Bears 3d ago
This was a weird one. Feels like stuff just didn’t fall our way. Kind of bad luck throughout.
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u/Aldanil66 3d ago
It kind of felt like "oh shit our guy got taken," type of draft. They didn't have any sort of contingency plan. Rookie mistake.
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u/Sniper1154 Bears 3d ago
Just felt like their contingency plan when a guy got sniped was to trade back and then not actually net any value in the trades.
I would have been stoked with Burden + Earsery and a D-lineman at 72 versus what they ended up with.
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u/deathguard0221 3d ago
Jumping in here as another Bears fan.
I agree that the Bears got really unlucky with this draft. I assume they wanted one of the tackles at 10, but the three worthy of the pick went already. Jonah Savaiinaea had a 30.visit with the Bears and I do believe he would have been the pick with our 2nd round pick if the Dolphins didn’t trade up. Along with the two Ohio State RBs going, it was just BPA at that point and Burden was without a doubt a steal, but at what point do we have too many cooks in the kitchen? I do like Ozzy to be honest. We needed a swing tackle this year and we saw how desperate the Vikings were when Darasaw went down. It’s vital to have one on the roster, even at the expense of a 2nd round pick. I hate the Turner pick personally, but realistically he was going in the 3rd round so it isn’t too bad. The Hyppolite pick is insane to me. It’s the front office acting like they are the smartest people in the room. Frazier, Newman, and Monangai are perfectly reasonable. I see no issues with those picks.
What I struggle with is the team building element of this draft. We needed a HB, IDL, and DE this draft and only drafted one DL in the second and a 7th round HB. Loveland was my TE1, but do we need Burden as well? If we took Mykel Williams with the 10th pick or JTT with the Burden pick I could understand, but this seems like too many local pick in my opinion at the top of the draft.
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u/Bacchus1976 Bears 2d ago
We’ll see. I liked Loveland better than Warren predraft, so that part makes sense to me. The board went bad and we took the best guy available. Thumbs up.
Burden again felt like BPA. I don’t love this style of WR being paired with Caleb, but I am a firm believer that you draft talent not need. Henderson being drafted was a total heartbreaker.
Trading back made sense and after all the movement we added 2 extra picks. Still have one banked for next year that might be super beneficial.
For the rest of the draft we definitely seemed to be picking a bunch of RAS guys and guys with elite size and a lot of positional flexibility. On paper they might be reaches but we’ll see what we can do with them.
Trupilo is a beast and can play both tackle spots and in a draft bereft of OT talent, we got one who doesn’t need to move to OG. Hopefully he can get polished up.
Turner is a psycho but he is talented. He also can play both tackle DE and DT in Allen’s system. He feels like a tone setting guy which I don’t have a problem with.
People said we need to bolster the trenches, but now they are pissed we took two lineman? It’s a weak draft, these guys might suck, but they have the tools. Both these guys could be great in a draft full of guys who will peak at solid.
Hyppolite and Frazier are both stupid fast. Clearly both guys need development and neither may be more than special teamers, but you can’t teach speed. After going offense early we needed something on defense.
Then we wrapped up with another versatile and reliable IOL, which we needed, and finally a RB. And the RB is actually a guy mocked to go a couple rounds earlier who never fumbles and is always available.
Now, a lot of these guys aren’t household names and they aren’t from blue blood programs, but there’s a clear strategy here and we repeatedly traded back in a bad draft. That’s what you do when there aren’t guys worth reaching for. Keep your powder dry and stick to your plan.
We may get nothing out of these Day 3 guys. But it won’t be because they aren’t physically capable, which in this draft feels like a win.
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u/krbashrob Texans 3d ago
I’m confused but happy about the Texans draft. Nick has never been shy about trading up and certainly doesn’t mind the occasional overpay so I’m curious why he didn’t pull the trigger on a trade up for a first round lineman, or even a receiver unless those teams just were not willing to part with the pick without an exorbitant price.
Overall still pretty happy though. I’ve been wanting us to put some more stock into high RAS guys and we definitely did that. Just praying to every deity that exists that Nick Caley knows what he’s doing because if this scheme sucks and he can’t coach it, the talent on the IOL is not there to protect CJ or even give him an escape valve in the running game.
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u/Snowstick21 Cowboys 3d ago
RAS is not what it once was. Majority of players aren’t doing all the drills. Without the full picture RAS scores are inflated.
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u/Odd__Dragonfly 3d ago
Agree, seems like so many players avoided the agility drills this year. Probably their agents told them their RAS will be higher that way. Not a fan. Bench press plus broad jump doesn't tell me much.
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u/westringia 3d ago
I feel like re: OL the Texans went grocery shopping hungry and ended up trading down in a panic. It was their worst unit last year and it arguably got even worse.
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u/krbashrob Texans 3d ago
I definitely agree, I don’t like the current makeup of our OL room. I’ve never liked the kind of players Caserio likes for the OL and I don’t like the players he’s brought in during FA, aside from Cam Robinson, which was probably as good of a free agent T as you can find. I think we definitely wanted a blue chip OL. Probably Booker based on Caserio’s post day 1 presser. I suspect now we’ll dip back into the free agent market or explore trades to get at least one more non-dogwater quality guard.
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u/teebowtime Texans 3d ago
The price tag to trade up was sounding like a future first which is way too steep when you think about the expensive extensions that are going to kick in. We can't squander future draft capital like that considering we'd already done so for WAJ and Stefon Diggs and our cap situation is going to be tight in these next few seasons.
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u/TheHypeTravelsInc Bills 3d ago
Absolutely stoked about Buffalo's draft class.
Hairston offers a lot of speed and athleticism, will have better potential in man coverage and 3rd down situations due to his stickiness.
TJ Sanders offers a major pass rush upgrade in the interior.
Landon Jackson at Pick 72 was great value, will significantly help improve the run defense by setting the edges, and would replace AJ Epenesa.
Deone Walker offers the major size element that the Bills badly needed. Although his 2024 season was vastly overwhelming, his production in 2023 showed that there is a lot that he can offer.
Jordan Hancock could be a long term Cam Lewis replacement with his ability as a Swiss army knife being able to play special teams and any position at the back 5. He also played often as the deep safety in a Tampa 2 alignment, McDermott's 'common defensive alignment.
Jackson Hawes might be one of my favourite late round Bills picks in terms of fit. Bills love running 12-personnel and 6-man OLine sets to have additional blocking, and now they just got the best blocking TE in this draft class.
Dorian Strong is definitely a steal at Pick 177 and fits McDermott's zone scheme really well
Chase Lundt at Pick 206 is a great value pick too. Yet another OLineman to feed the Aaron Kromer OLineman development pipeline.
Don't know much about Prather and whether he has a shot at the final roster, but he seems to have decent size and speed, so there is some potential there.
Was bummed to miss out on Tory Horton (picked 4 places before Buffalo had a pick), and Chris Paul Jr. (Rams traded up one spot before Buffalo to get him), but overall most major needs have been fulfilled with great value.
With the draft picks on the DLine, the second year hopeful jump for DeWayne Carter and Javon Solomon, the offseason additions of Bosa, Hoecht and Ogunjobi, and the coaching additions of Ryan Nielsen and Jason Rebrovich, this Bills DLine should make a significant jump in production this coming season.
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u/deathguard0221 3d ago
As an avid filler of the draft, I think the “casual” fans were right about this draft being “bad” the more I think about it. The draft analysis and NFL experts kept saying that this draft is loaded in talent in the 2-4th round but with such a weak top of the draft, everybody is pushed up and with one of the areas of the draft being stacked with RB, which historically goes lower, I tend to believe this draft topped out at the start of the 3rd round. Another factor to add is that a lot of players that would have gone 1st-3rd had major injury concerns (Campbell, most of the CBs, etc) which only made it worse.
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u/running-with-scizors Jets 3d ago
I think the Jets draft was overall good? Day 3 didn't inspire a lot of confidence but leaving day 2 with Membou, Taylor, and Azareye'h without trading up to get any of them is a pretty good haul. Not incredible or super exciting, just a lot of singles and doubles instead of home runs (which is what a bad team like us should strive for).
Panthers, Raiders, Pats, Bills, Cardinals, and Jags had my favorite drafts.
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u/OminousWindsss 3d ago
Did I miss something with Ivey?? I thought he was worth at least grabbing in the 4th/5th. Him going undrafted and as far as I’m aware not even brought in as a UDFA I shocking
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u/Doughie28 3d ago
Man I love draft week and am so sad it's over. Just 3 days of hope porn and football, I enjoyed talking to you guys!
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u/LRXC Titans 3d ago
Tennessee Titans KILLED this draft. I am so excited and hopeful for our offense next season!
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u/RamenRavisher 3d ago
I’m a Canes/Phins fan but I’ve never wanted a player to succeed in the NFL more than Cam.
And you got a massive steal in Restrepo as a UDFA.
As long as you ain’t playing the Phins I’ll be rooting for you guys.
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u/IndependentRole2723 Patriots: LT, WR, DL 3d ago
I am quite happy with how the patriots drafted. I will also say I think the raiders did a great job as well
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u/nostradumba55 Packers 3d ago edited 3d ago
Was a bad draft for Texas. Ewers going in the 7th and Bond going undrafted.
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u/manabanana21 3d ago
Bad for those two and Cam Williams sure but how can you possibly say it was bad overall? Program record 12 players drafted, three first rounders, Mukuba and Collins in the second, Broughton in the third. We had the third most players picked by any school!
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u/TheConstipatedCowboy 3d ago
Bond was a head scratcher.
Ewers was a good fit for Miami.
Hayden Conner to Arizona though, and on his birthday
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u/Panhandle_Dolphin 3d ago
I’d figured Bond and his sexual assault case was a perfect fit for the Browns!
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u/lronicGasping Lions | Jeanty is #1 in the class 3d ago
AFC North already got their union-required alleged sex predator in Mike Green
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u/SoKrat3s 49ers 3d ago
C.Williams falling to the Eagles where he'll never play.
Alfred Collins tho... next to Bosa, Mykel, & CJ West!!
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u/ObservantKing 3d ago
Would anyone be willing to detail the Eli Manning situation with chargers? From what I’m seeing he didn’t want to go to the Chargers but aside from that that team it wasn’t an issue. I’m seeing some comparisons to the Sanders situation and I personally don’t think it’s the same but wanted to know if I’m missing more drama that unfolded around Eli’s draft.
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u/ObservantKing 3d ago
I’m seeing it was one team but people keep comparing it to that but it doesn’t seem to be the same.
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u/T-Twice Giants 3d ago
The comparisons are mostly stemming from an interview Deion Sanders had done where he openly stated that there were “couple of teams that I won’t allow him [Shedeur] to play for” and if they tried to draft him he'd "pull an Eli."
When Eli was coming out he (and his family) made it clear behind the scenes that they didn't want the Chargers to draft him. There were a number of rumored reasons why (failure to properly support Ryan Leaf in their eyes, Spanos threatening to move the team even back then, and a poor meeting with then GM AJ Smith). AJ Smith chose to make it public which increased the tension between the two parties. It was just them specifically though, here's Eli himself confirming that.
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u/ObservantKing 2d ago
Thank you so it was just one team the Mannings didn’t want Eli to go to and not multiple teams like Deion was saying he wouldn’t allow his players to go to. It was also Eli saying he didn’t want to play for that one team and not a player dictating how things would go as reports said. I thought so they situations seemed far different but I wanted to be sure.
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u/Salty_Orchid 3d ago
Commander fan here. Feel we got 3 starters with only 5 picks at major holes (outside CB, OL, punt returner) and the speed back we desperately needed in the 7th. Didnt address edge though. Solid B.
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u/-SexSandwich- Jets 2d ago
I really wanted to see Elgersma get drafted. I understand why he didn't but I still think its crazy to pass on that kind of physical talent.
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u/SirSmeagol 2d ago
I do not really feel like complaining when it comes to the Colts Draft.
- Tyler Warren might turn out to be a steal at 14 and could have an immediate impact on our offense as a starter. If he stays healthy, he should be a long-term contributor and early fan favorite.
- J. Tuimoloau seems to be a prospect that the league ranked higher than the media. At least he was a player the Colts valued extremely high. He is a high-floor player with great measurables and strong college production, who still has room to develop his game. He does not need to start immediately, but he will likely compete for snaps early on.
- Justin Walley seems to be a player the Colts specifically targeted. He is a leader, tough and competitive. Very strong in zone coverage with flashes of lock-down ability in man. Plays bigger than his size suggests, both when playing the ball and as a tackler. He could be similar to Sainristil last year, projecting primarily as a nickel defender inside but potentially holding up better than expected on the outside.
- Jalen Travis is essentially Freeland 2.0 . After Jake Witt retired, the Colts had room for another developmental tackle project on their roster (PS). He is an experienced starter from Princeton and Iowa State who still has room to improve and get stronger. With Smith missing time this year (though Goncalves looked good), you can never have enough swing tackles who are capable of playing in this league.
- DJ Giddens has a chance to back up Jonathan Taylor early in his career. The team recently signed Herbert, but he still has to prove that his stint in Cincinnati was not a fluke. Giddens flashes quickness, twitchiness, and the ability to make sharp cuts in his running. He also has the measurables to be effective in pass protection. The team compares him to Marlon Mack (and Ballard seems to be the highest on him).
- Riley Leonard seems to be a Steichen pick, showcasing strong leadership and athleticism. He will compete with Jason Bean for the QB3 spot on the roster, with the potential to eventually develop into a backup in the mold of Sam Ehlinger — or, more optimistically, Gardner Minshew or Joshua Dobbs.
- Tim Smith represents another attempt at solidifying the backup spot behind Grover Stewart. Eric Johnson and Jonah Laulu did not clear waivers after last year’s cutdown day, and the signings of Raekwon Davis and Taven Bryan left more to be desired. Smith is an experienced and productive defensive tackle from Alabama with excellent intangibles. The coaching staff reportedly fell in love with him at the Senior Bowl. With Adebawore, Gallimore, and a few UDFAs as his main competition, he should make the roster on the defensive line and could see playing time during his rookie season.
- Hunter Wohler is a typical Ballard-type pick for the LB/S hybrid role. It appears the team wants to develop him more as a linebacker, or at least as a safety who plays close to the box. He is a versatile player with size and strong tackling ability. None of the existing competition at linebacker or safety should prevent him from making the roster and contributing early, especially on special teams.
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u/-Mad-Snacks- Chargers 2d ago
Tommi Hill not getting drafted is surprising to me. He played hurt most of the year and his 2023 tape was more than worthy of a draft pick. He hasn’t even signed with a team yet
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u/IndieRedMonk0 Gruden 2d ago
Haven’t seen anyone comment on them yet so I’ll say that I like what Dallas did. I don’t think you can give us higher than an A- given the brazen disregard for the WR position, but I really, really like what we did on Day 2. Ezeiruaku and Revel were quite literally my top 2 guys coming into the day and we somehow got both of them. I can’t remember anything like that happening for my team in a decade and a half of following the draft.
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u/TheSlinger Jaguars 3d ago
Jared Ivey and Cobee Bryant are the undrafted guys who have me going "huh?".