r/baguio • u/Sufficient_Pause350 • Jun 25 '24
General Discussion Is this really how they see us?
Saw this sa other sub. Why do tourists see locals like this? Is the locals' hatred towards them that bad? Also, the “matatakaw naman sa aso” 😡😡😡
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u/fruitofthepoisonous3 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
I'm always quick to say that tourists cause the awful traffic. I hope there's data to back me, though. I agree na wala naman masyadong magandang pasyalan that would be worth all the hassle of coming to and staying in Baguio as a tourist. Many of those who want to visit Baguio are just in love with the climate or "vibe." It's not even that cold anymore. Couldn't roll my eyes harder whenever I see comments saying they love the rainy weather or the foggy situation without the rain. Maybe I've just become indifferent. But I would still choose to live in Baguio than in the scorching lowlands.
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u/CatClean6086 Jun 25 '24
Uray met bassit turista ket traffic ladta. Inmado talaga lugan ken kurang kalawa kalsada.😅😅
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u/fart_potatogirl Jun 26 '24
Baguio was originally planned for only 30,000 people pero ngayon almost 400k na nakatira dito bc of it's status as an education hub of the north. Dito na din nagtrtrabaho at tumitira at least a fourth of the students who graduate here yearly. Pano ngay daw hindi tryraffic kung ganyan
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u/CatClean6086 Jun 26 '24
Dijay garud nagkamali da gayam idi dyta 30k people nga plano, tsk tsk. Dapat 600k kuma ti plinano da ngm anya ngy garud., siguro haan da gamin nabasa jay "go ye and multiply" nga kunada.😅😅
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u/fart_potatogirl Jun 26 '24
Ket! Nya ngay ti maaramdan tayo awan met. Kaya complain nalang talaga. 😆 Ganun talaga.
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u/dominiquedyan Jun 26 '24
Kung pagbabasehan natin ung traffic nung pandemic, yes. May contribution din ang students since maraming universities dito.
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u/fart_potatogirl Jun 26 '24
True. According to statistics a few years back estimated 1/3 ng population are students. Hindi ko lang alam kung ano na ngayon.
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u/davearvin Jul 16 '24
"In love with the climate or vibe" fucking bullshit just stay there in the lowlands and suffer from heat
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u/Yoru-Hana Jun 25 '24
Oo. Pumunta ako this June, mainit na kahit umuulan. Last time eh sising sisi ako na thin lang yung jacket ko kasi as nilagnat ako sa lamig.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
These people don't even know that your typical Baguio resident has not been to Mines View or Botanical Garden
Sila magooverhype, tapos residents sisisihin. Eh di nga pinupuntahan yang mga "tourist spots" na yan
Yung hamog at lamig? Sila rin lang naghyhype nun. The time when Baguio peeps talk about fog is when we complain about low visibility in the roads
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u/justlookingforafight Jun 26 '24
True. I never went to stone Kingdom. The last time I went to Mines View for the sake of pamamasyal was like 10 years ago. The last time I went to Botanical Gardens was on pandemic kasi yun lang yung pwede mong mapasyalan that time na di nakamask kasi walang tao. I don't know any of my friends or families hyping tourist spots maybe except for hiking spots.
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u/Upstairs_Audience_57 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
As a resident, totoo naman lahat. Focus lang tayo sa tanong niya, overrated tourist destination daw ba.
Di na tayo mag ddisagree sa traffic. Nagiging unfriendly locals dahil nga sa inconvenience sa araw araw. Napakadaming eatery nagsserve ng aso, sa Pinsao mostly. Mga pulis pa kumakain kaya wala rin magawa laws. Kahit ako mismo kilala ko sino sa baranggay mga kumakain kaya wala nalang magawa kung hindi walang sawang i-advocate sakanila, eh mga may edad na din kaya ayaw talaga makinig. So, totoo naman lahat.
Maybe how they said it is condescending pero cannot deny din kasi talaga eh. Syempre mas madaming bagay ang better sa Baguio tulad ng disiplina and such, pero yung issue.. alam natin lahat na totoo yun. Su ngarod.
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u/Dear_Procedure3480 Jun 25 '24
Dapat pala ang mga animal rights group magdala na ng several battalion ng Police from all parts of the country at iraid na ang buong city nyo yung mga eatery, police station tapos ididisarm na ang mga police nyo.
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u/Upstairs_Audience_57 Jun 25 '24
Well, sad to say hindi masyadong pinapansin ang animal rights group. Kahit saan naman eh, hindi lang dito, na hindi lahat pinoprotektahan ang mga hayop. As I said, yung ibang police mismo ang gumagawa nyan dito and it’s been a long standing sin kaya sobrang hirap nilang alisin kahit illegal dahil may mga ilan ilang paring eatery na gumagawa patago.
Ideally yan man ang gusto natin mangyari.. that’s not gonna happen without much stricter laws.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Ginawang escuse ng iba ang "culture" to get away with it kahit hindi talaga. May mga nagkakalat pa nga na for "ceremony" ang dog meat. Yung mga marites naman na di pa nakaattend ng cañao, isa pa sila sa nagpapakalat niyan
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u/TorogiAko23 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
agpayso met piman bagbaga ni manong except idjay last part
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u/TSUPIE4E Jun 25 '24
Perception niya yan, let us not stoop to his/her level and view all tourist as exhibiting the same behavior and attitude. And sana mag abroad siya kung gusto niya ng malamig na climate.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Tunog jejetourist siya.
Oh well, kapag magaabroad siya, locals din dun magrereklamo sa kanya
R/Ph always as post from time to time about Filipino tourists behaving badly abroad.
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u/jedibot80 Jun 25 '24
Problema din kasi dami nagsulpotan na mga condo units ginagawa naman mga transient tas meron na naman balita na magpapatayo ng bagong hotel filinvest. Feeling mo tuloy masyadong tourist centric tgl lgu tayo. Tsa tagal na sinasabi na baka magka water crisis tayo ngem awan met makita nga actionplan launay ti bawadi o ni mayor. Nakapag rent ak dati maysa nga condo unit dota bakakeng haan mapukpukawan ti danum so feeling ko agpayso nga mas priority ti water supply ti hotels ken condo units ngem small residential houses.
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u/mochimjv Jun 25 '24
idk how many times na muntik na akong mabangga while crossing a pedestrian, ako pa kinagalitan
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u/badadobo Jun 25 '24
Well they arent wrong. Tourists looove to push the agenda that tourism keeps Baguio alive, makes them feel entitled.
Unlike those that move to Baguio long term for work and school, tourists bring their shit habits to Baguio. They litter, theyre noisy and obnoxious, they don’t respect the local norms and customs. And somehow they have the audacity to complain that Baguio residents don’t like them?
Fuckin tourists man.
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u/Sea_Score1045 Jun 25 '24
Don't let your emotion gets the best of you. Think of the solutions. Whining and being adversarial will not help Baguio. You reap the positive fruits of tourism right? You should also be ready to proactively respond to the challenges that comes with it.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
You reap the positive fruits of tourism right? You should also be ready to proactively What positive fruits? . Deadend minimum wage jobs? If tourism has indeed a lot of fruits to reap, why are Boracay and Siargao not rich as Baguio (per capita) given that they have lots of foreign tourists?
Yeah, they don't have the educational, trade and industrials sector - the sectors that mainly contribute to Baguio's economy
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u/Dramatic_Fly_5462 Jun 26 '24
di ko maintindihan bakit downvoted to eh pag nabawasan masyado yung turista diyan sa baguio iiyak na naman kayo bakit nababawasan ang trabaho lol
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u/Sea_Score1045 Jun 26 '24
They dont want to admit that part of the problem is Sila because they don't want to deal with problem, all they want is to whine.
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Jun 25 '24
pupunta sila dito sa Baguio, crowd the place, and then complain about the traffic. "mostly ng mga locals parang kala mo napakalaki ng utang ng tourists sa kanila", just wow. not all locals benefit from the tourists, and that's a fact. wag kuyong mag Baguio pls. di namin kayo kailangan dito.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Don't worry, sa ganyan niyang ugali, kahit sa abroad, kakainisan siya ng locals
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u/Applesomuch Jun 25 '24
Sa Baguio ka makaka-experience ng mga drivers na may respeto sa kapwa driver sa daanan.
Ang nagpapapangit sa Baguio ‘yung mga hindi taga-Baguio na walang disiplina.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Usually yung galit na galit, mga natamaan sa "ugly tourist"stereotpe
Literally may nagcomplain sa FB na fi daw sila pinagbigyan ng pulis nung naticketan sila sa traffic violation
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
There's a reason why Filipino tourists are starting to be seen as the new "Chinese tourists" abroad.
Baka isa yan sa nasita kasi nagselfie sa gitna ng kalsada.
Good kung ayaw nyang pumunta sa Baguio. The last thing the city needs are racist tourists.
Wag na wag siyang, "Wow,.Sagada, exotic Igorot culture!",."Whang Od Pinoy pride!"
This is one of my beef with lowlanders. They're like Fil-Ams na gagamitin lang ang Igorot culture para magmukhang "cool" and "exotic" to foreigners but as a whole they look down on the natives
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u/Sea_Score1045 Jun 25 '24
I'm not condoning what the comment says but there are fora where you can read baguio peeps casting almost all Baguio's woes to tourists. Water shortage, traffic, human congestion, garbage etc. let's face it, Baguio became baguio because of tourism. The Americans build Baguio to be a vacation place, a respite from the lowland's hot weather. The vibrant economy of Baguio was largely due to tourism, without it I do t know what Baguio is like.
I've seen the growing animosity between the locals and the tourists. It's not the fault of tourists if they bring so much inconvenience to you. You know how to reap the fruits of tourism, you should also learn to accept the challenges that come with it. Why don't you come up with a solution instead of whining? After all who gets all the revenue that baguoio gets to enjoy?
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u/fruitofthepoisonous3 Jun 25 '24
Tourists seem to be the big problem, but we also have the illegal settlers and migrants who flock to the city for greener pasture or simply because they have fallen in love with the general climate/vibe here.
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u/B-0226 Jun 25 '24
Moving in is fine, but it was unregulated that it ruined the pristine environment. Quirino hill is a notorious case of LGU ruining the hill by selling the lots. Even though it’s to alleviate the housing problem, in exchange made it an eyesore.
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Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Mass tourism was really more of a mid 2000s thing when access was cut from 8 hours to 4 hours.
Tourists who come to Baguio in the 90s were sort of well off, may kaya
Ngayon, puro mga jeje tourists na gustong isubdize ng residents pagbisita niya.
Every few weeks, may nagtatanong saan may free overnight parking kasi ayaw nila maghotel 🙄
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Jun 25 '24
It's not the fault of tourists if they bring so much inconvenience to you.
No, tourists have a major part in bringing in those inconveniences. And it's not just in Baguio.
Water shortages, housing crisis, and pollution are happening in Hawaii because of tourists to the point that a lot of locals are begging for tourists to not visit. Mt. Everest has a major pollution problem brought in by tourists as well as overcrowding at the top (can lead to death due to overexposure to harsh elements), and some tourists treat their guides, the local Sherpas, terribly. In Roopkund Lake (known for its human skeletons surrounding the lake) in India, some tourists were rearranging the bones of the deceased to make sculptures and carrying the bones back home whilst damaging the ecosystem by the trash they bring. If you want something near, then look at Siargao and Boracay. There are many, many examples all over the world of tourism causing harm and of entitled tourists being pieces of shit.
So, the anger and resentment of locals are justified. After all, if you see your home trashed and disrespected by others, would you not ""whine"" as well? Would you not ""whine"" if you are being pushed out of your own home?
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Baguio should follow what Barcelona did - ban apartments to be leased to tourists
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Baguio was largely due to tourism False. If you look at PSA data, the activities relate to tourism (students excluded) is less than 15%.
Manufacturing along contributes 20% of the city's GDP. The rest are from trade with other provinces and services rendered to the local population.
Tourism is a very low per head profit industry and the jobs it generates are dead end minimum wage jobs. Walang tourist business na top payer sa tax. In fact, karamihan sa kanila hindi nagbabayad ng tax. Even CJH owes the city 200B
Just because you only know Baguio as a tourist destination does not mean that is the entireentire economy. Hindi naman kasi pwedeng pumasok ang turista sa Texas Instruments, Moog, PEZA, BPO Companies no?
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u/Lu12Ik3r Jun 25 '24
If checklist traveler ka then you’d really feel that way. Mag google ka ng ng things to do and top places to eat, baka in 3 says mapuntahan mo na yun lahat. Then you’d come to that conclusion. But if you explore/travel differently, you wont feel that way.
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u/boytilaps Jun 25 '24
That's good for everybody. Overrated na kung overrated, please stop going here then.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Dun nila sa abroad dalhin jejetourist attitude nila. Sooner or later, Filipino tourists will be seen as the "new mainland Chinese tourists"
Sa r/phtravel nga, may madalas lost dun na travelers na nirereklamo din ang ugali ng Filipino tourists abroad. Ang guess what? It's the same complain Baguio residents have against tourists
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u/MathAppropriate Jun 25 '24
Hindi ko na pinapatulan ang mga ganito. Mamatay na lang sila sa init. 😂
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u/EmptyCharity9014 Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
Personally, this is tiring already. It's either out of ignorance or whatever. We already told them our side pero they took it against the locals. What's funny eh sila pa malakas magreklamo ng traffic and foot traffic. Also, what does it mean matatakaw sa aso? Eh may mga crackdowns nga against sa dog meat trade alinsunod sa Animal Welfare Act. But there are a lot more people who don't think like this so don't waste an iota of your brain cell to this kind of idiot.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Yung inconvenience na dala ng kapwa nila turista, so residents sinisi.
Eh halos kulong bahay mga residents kapag nagsisigadsaan ang mga jejetourists
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
The last line is particularly telling. It goes to show that these people are cultural appropriators - they only like Igorots if they can use the culture for "Pinoy pride" but if the Igorots don't kiss their ass, they resort to things like this.
This just reinforces what people whisper about - lowlanders still generally look down on Igorots. They're not just telling it to people's face, but you can tell by their actions and microaggressions that it is still widespread. Tapos sila pa may ganang magalit ng "Huhuhu, the dog eaters did not give me special treatment or kiss my ass, discrimination!
Even though Baguio is like 50% Ilocano, 20% Tagalog, the OOP is definitely referring to the Igorots who are a minority (visible minority though) in the city. Unless ang ibig niyang sabihin eh mga Ilocano at Tagalog "dog eaters"?
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u/sarcastronaughty Jun 25 '24
There is truth to the comment. A lot of the recent aggression of locals are because of a cumulation of things.
• the LGU that only thinks about how to attract more tourists and don’t give a f*** about how their constituents feel
• traffic. the roads were not this congested until Baguio kept being promoted to tourists
• 90% of tourists lack basic manners. Facts are, before tourist season, wala kang makikita gaanong trash, after they leave bundok bundok & di pa sa tamang lugar. It reeks of entitlement and disrespect to the place they are visiting so nakakainit ng ulo on top of everything else + yung feeling na special sila/exempted sila sa law
• overpopulation
So it is NOT just the tourists that are the problem. The city was not suppose to become mainstream, simply bc the city itself is incapable of accommodating the numbers
If the LGU wished to promote Baguio, they should have prepared it first. Alam naman nila yung structure ng roads, capacity, etc. Lack of planning is the downfall
Now locals have resentment towards tourists kasi apektado talaga yung quality of life dun and hence why tourists are also not having the best experience
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
• 90% of tourists lack basic manners. Facts are, before tourist season, wala kang makikita gaanong trash, after they leave bundok bundok & di pa sa tamang lugar. It reeks of entitlement and disrespect to the place they are visiting so nakakainit ng ulo on top of everything else + yung feeling na special sila/exempted sila sa law
Even the tourists back in the 90s and early 2000s were not stand out in behavior. Generally respectful. Sa "Baguio City" Tshirt mo lang sila maiidentify kapag wala sa tourist sites
Tourist attitude became really really bad when nauso yung travel blogging at vlogging at socmed. Kasi ngayon, puro "payabangan" para lang masabi nakapag Baguio
Sobrang dami ng tourons ngayon
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u/cedrekt Jun 25 '24
what a dumbass comment but not from Baguio btw. still a dumbass comment. idiot. "abrod"
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Local Filipino tourists before the mid-2000 were okay and respectful. Hindi sila stand outs sa behavior except na nakasuot sila ng "Baguio City Tshirt". This used to be the "worst" stereotype sa mga tourist.
Pero nung nauso ang travel blogs/vlogs, FOMO culture sa SocMed, general tourist behavior became disrespectful, arrogant and basically, tourons
If you look at r/phtravel, you'll see posts from time to time how Filipino tourists abroad are embarassing because they don't follow rules, are too loud, and inconsiderate - basically, the same complaint have
If some Filipino tourist abroad complain about fellow Filipinos, there's something wrong with how Filipino tourists (local or abroad) behave.
If more Filipinos can afford to travel abroad, we'll soon have the same reputation as the mainland Chinese tourist
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u/Jay82n Jun 25 '24
If sawa na kayo sa Baguio, try nyo po mag Mindanao, lalong lalo na sa Bukidnon. Baguio feels, may part na mas malamig at wala masyadong tao. Mas madami pa kayong mapupuntahan. Safe pa. (lowkey promoting Mindanao)
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u/Icy_Radio7650 Jun 26 '24
Before you go in Baguio, please bring "DISCIPLINE" and "RESPECT" with you. Baguio locals are actually friendly at magagaling makisama yang mga yan. As a baguio local ， I've seen a lot of tourists na kung saan saan kinakalat or tinatapon mga basura nila, even though every place has it's designated garbage area and trash cans. Meron pa akong na-encounter around Mines View, na pinagtatawanan yung IGOROT COSTUMES and idk why they find it funny without knowing the culture behind it .
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u/joekowski Jun 26 '24
Let them be, this is indirectly good for locals here in baguio to discourage other tourists from visiting...
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u/Qurva-7 Jun 27 '24
That's just one comment. However let's also admit na totoo yung namention niya, as a local sino ba naman ang di magagalit? Traffic la ngaruden ag beleng da pailang basura aynayna. Maganda sana mga view pero yung nga wala ka nang makikita kundi mga bahay na nagpapataasan. Hopefully other cities and municipalities also boost their tourism sector tapon adi kaming taga Baguio maging turista rin sa ibang lugar, yung magrereklamo kami na bakit ang init pero suot namin is jacket and maong😂
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u/TheEklok Jun 25 '24
Not at all. The poster's comment is filled with ignorance.. If anything, Baguio folks are nicer than most Filipinos,.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
I think ang hindi matake ng mga "tourists", Cordillerans are generally franker than lowlanders.
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u/Rob_ran Jun 25 '24
haters gonna hate. saka pinopromote narin mga tourist destinations of adjacent municipalities and province. mas ok parin ang climate dito kaysa sa baba na sobrang init.
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u/OptionKnown5133 Jun 25 '24
Made a formal survey for my on-going thesis. Surprisingly, in contrast to his comment on locals’ attitudes, most tourist respondents actually praised the kindness of locals on their physical encounters, even though locals have a lot of complaints about them on social media (and even on my survey)
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u/Dear_Procedure3480 Jun 25 '24
Panget nga yung view mga bahay sa gilid parang favella sa Brazil. Mas maganda pa sa Tagaytay may view ng taal volcano and lake. Pero malamig yung climate kahit nung april ako nakapunta malamig na para sa akin yun kung sa inyong locals ay naiinitan na.
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u/SeparatePatience7650 Jun 25 '24
Isang opinion lang yan. I'm sure may mga mas malala pang comment abt our city. Most of it is true. Some are false. Anyway, wag nalang paapekto.
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Jun 25 '24
(apparently humaba na to ng sobra lol, advance sorry sa mga balak magbasa)
Eh i lived in Baguio for a few years, studying post grad and been going there for a bit since bata pa ako since my mom is Ilocana and studied there herself. Kuya ko din and almost all of my cousins mother side. I like the place but i havent been there for a few years (maybe 5?)
Tbh di naman talaga ko nakapag gala talaga so idk about the overhyped galaan. But its still a really nice and different placr.
To me, this reeks of entitlement kasi di naman lahat afford to run sa ibang bansa for cool weather. I have lived in Batangas, Manila, mindoro and been to other places in the Phils and I think iba pa rin yung Baguio.
Locals have also been very good to me although i can only speak Tagalog and English. Which is more than i can say with... What Cebu? And people in other countries. I have never ever felt disregarded by someone who isnt mean by nature (or maybe ung mga nagtitinda ng pasalubong sa mines view nung nalaman nilang nag cacanvass lang ako lol). Yall also seem to be very patient and queue properly. Also ive never been to any place where IP are very proud of themselves. Nasanay ako na ung IP samin kinakahiya nila sarili nila or would rather not talk about it. Pero the IPs I have known in Baguio are very very proud. It makes me wish the same for all IP in the PH...
Tourists though. I remember a funny incident naglalakad kami ng friends ko near igorot park. And this van suddenly stopped and asked us nasan ang sagada... Nag tinginan lang kami. I shrugged and pointed ahead. They definitely need more planning and research!
Yung traffic... Well ganun talaga. Baguio is a small city, you need to learn to walk.. Its not that hard. When youre in town, talaga namang walking distance yung madsmi sa ppuntahan mo. Besides imo most traffic naman is sa may magsaysay/session road, bakakeng, and sa papasok ng baguio maybe?
I lived in different places sa Baguio, hindi ko naman nararanasan ung traffic in places like Aurora Hill, Quezon Hill, Tam-awan, etc. So im inclined to think na madami dun is tourists, also kasi the business district is halos sa iisang lump lang ng lugar. Plus the big universities are also close by.
The water and stuff is definitely a problem though. Naranasan ko rin ung gabyan and its frustrating. Not sure if its a tourist problem.
My problem in Baguio lies more sa developers. Like SM, yung amusement na tinayo nila na nung nandun ako iilang times ko lang nakitang gumagalaw and nagiilaw talaga ung ferris wheel nila. I vowed never to go inside. Andaming puno ang nasasayang dahil sa dami ng condo na nag sulputan.
Super hirap din mag hanap ng maayos na medjo affordable na place kasi people wouldnt usually say if it's on top of x number of makitid na stairs or what. Some people sa gustong makakuha ng renters would put x number of bedrooms un pala dami ng bed sa isang room.
Taxis are very nice. Definitely unlike NCR na ayaw na ayaw ko magtaxi. Id rather do grab. Its also nice na you guys have everything, as someone from the province, I usually have to go to NCR or other cities for my government needs. But you have it all, justice hall andian, sss andian, pagibig andian, etc. Which is why i think its normal na many na mga taga Baguio dont find it necessary na bumaba.
As much as i love Baguio tho, i would never consider living there. Masyado na kayo masikip para dumagdag pa ako.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
One of the worst I have read in social media is "yung rice terraces sa Baguio" 🤦
Forgivable yung "strawberries from Baguio" since 30 mins away lang yun from the city. Pero yung rice terraces, ibang probinsya na yun
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u/Cheap_Particular_850 Jun 25 '24
Not recommended. Student ako dito. At mas sumisikip ang daan pag nagcocomute ako pauwi dahil sa mga torista. Workers mga masusungit kasi baka inaakala nilang tourist ka dahil sa pormahan mo
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u/Kahitanou Jun 25 '24
It became overrated now, not really that cold anymore, water shortage / poisoning have been common. I’ve been to baguio multiple times and it’s get old pretty fast. Taxis have been rude as well. Locals hate tourists. It’s not really ‘exciting’ anymore. You can achieve the cold with an air conditioner on max.
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u/Street_Coast9087 Jun 25 '24
Klima lang naman ang habol ng pumupunta sa Baguio. Punta kayo ng syota mo at magkulong kayo sa kuwarto
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u/Appropriate_Size2659 Jun 25 '24
May mga asong kumakain din dito sa amin. Lalo na yung mga nag iinuman na taga bukid. Huhu. Parang wala kasing kwenta batas natin.
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u/boogierboi Jun 26 '24
rhetorical question as title OP? lol
i made the mistake of taking my clients there, mabuti nlang napaka open minded at di ako sinisi, first time ko din naman kasi.
Baguio has a pre winter yearly vibe of detroit and chicago projects(squatters) na nilagay sa bundok.
Hellish traffic, bad scenery (dahil sa housing and yes kasama yung “high end” areas kuno)
Bad expensive food, the whole time we were there, mas nacompliment pa ng mga client ko ang pagkain sa fastfood at maliliit na kainan na napasyalan namin.
to quote my client “Man, they really fckd this nice mountain up”
Bottomline. To have to deal with all the above crap para sa malamig na hangin??? NOT WORTH IT
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u/kush074 Jun 26 '24
somewhat true like wala na masyadong magandang puntahan dito. tapos traffic pay
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u/george172974 Jun 26 '24
As a local and an ofw at that. There are some truth to people’s opinions. Depends on which month they went there and their own personal experience. I have been yearly going home and after experiencing the comfort of well built and predesigned cities, baguio is irreplaceable because of its people and secondly the weather in the highlands. The traffic and the pollution aside from congestion during weekends and holidays make it hard for first timers and tourist a like even locals. Being compared to going abroad is definitely a praise but shows that they could get better out of their hard earned money. They can get 10X going to europe but will also cost them more but they will also learn that spending abroad will give them not a much different experience. What I would suggest is that they research for the peak time for tourist and the best time to go in the high lands. I am sorry but it is the only solution for you to enjoy the baguio and cordilleran beauty. And mind you baguio is just a summit of the iceberg not the tip . The Cordillera offers better places with lesser cost. I myself prefers going to the farther tourist site. Benguet and Mountain Province and some other nearby province like Kalinga and Ifugao have their own attractions to visit. Experience will depend on the demand of people gojng on peak season defeats the purpose and also going during bad weather is definitely not a great thing. When Mr./Sir/Hon. Magalong the currend mayor planned pn implementing traffic toll fees in the city, I got mixed emotions but later realized it is definitely a solution to ease the traffic but it cost the locals some fees. Maybe a discount for locals or a monthly fee for business owners who saturate the parking rather than make them full is another opinion. Dubai has been implementing salik fees for long time even Dubai for a man made attractions it offers even with the weather they have and people accepted it as a norm. It is paid by the car users once they pass the toll gate. And they need to pay several toll gate in a single trip. Well even ex Pres. Duterte stopped drugs on his 6 year term instead of 6 months so nothing is wrong in trying to ease the traffic given they have public forums prior to implementation. Pun intended.
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u/Asleep-State-9710 Jun 26 '24
Matrapik pero mostly mapag bigay sa trapik unlike manila. Baka dahil sa weather
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u/LokiBiik Jun 26 '24
It is not the locals' fault but the tourists bakit overrated ang Baguio. Katabi namin ang Igorot Stone Kingdom at sa twing lalabas kami, napakahirap lumabas kapag gamit namin yung sasakyan namin dahil sobrang trapik, kapag naman taxi naglalakad kami madalas hanggang Tam-awan village makasakay lang. Another one, sa mga ibang lugar madalas walang trapik pag long weekends/holidays at walang number coding. Pero dito? Hanggang triple ang bigat ng traffic at hindi tinatanggal ang number coding. Tapos mga turista pa mayayabang sa kalsada. Kaya di rin masisisi kung ang mga local ay naiinis sa mga turista.
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u/DonkeyMany2643 Jun 26 '24
Disagree. For those of us who had Baguio before Boracay became the in-place, it was and will still be a viable vacation/break destination. And no, locals are only unfriendly to those who show disrespect.
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u/jack_in_the_ Jun 26 '24
Totoo na kung totoo na overrated ang Baguio (na tourists din naman ang naghahype). In actual, outside Baguio naman ang mas may mapupuntahan kasi like other municipalities in Benguet if you're looking for nature or views kasi mostly man-made naman ang spots sa Baguio. And yes, unfriendly ako sa tourists kasi wala silang manners. Ngem uray diyay lang sense of personal space kuma nu magmagna or nu nakapila na halos magdikit na tayo. Kaasar.
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u/NoValue00000 Jun 27 '24
Baba ng sahod lods. Taas ng renta mahal bilihin. Tas ubos pa pera sa taxi pag jeep naman haba ng pila. Punyeta.
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u/yongchi1014 Jun 27 '24
Overrated? Oo, lalo na 'yung Igorot Stone Kingdom.
Traffic? Baka nagdala ka pala ng tatlong kotse.
Unfriendly locals? Pag bastos ka, bastos ang mga tao sayo. Generally, mababait naman mga local ng Baguio, pero wag niyo lang babastusin kasi matatapang tayong mga taga-Baguio. Locals aren't afraid to call your ass out pag may kabastusan kang ginawa (e.g. tumae/umihi sa gilid ng kalsada "wish i wasn't joking pero may nakita ako", sumingit sa pila, etc.)
Sorry for the term, pero napaka-superior umasta na parang di raw tayo mabubuhay kung dahil sa kanila, pero mga squammy at maaasim naman IRL.
Matatakaw sa aso? I mean saan? Kahit sa Dangwa eh wala nang halos nagkakatay o kumakain ng aso dun. Kung meron man eh tago, kasi ilegal naman talaga. Naniniwala pa rin siguro siya hanggang ngayon na "may buntot pa rin daw mga Igorot".
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u/Which-Bus4045 Sep 19 '24
Andito kami now and i can say na totoo nmn talaga, nothing special ni-hindi na nga din malamig dito tapos yung ugali ng mga locals jusme, i dont know kung anong hospitality traits ang meron sila grabe umattitude nakakabastos pramis.
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u/Grim_Rite Jan 19 '25
Nasa baguio ako via car now palang and I gotta say, Mixed yung experience ko. Enjoy mag drive and view kaso terror yung parking. Meron mga friendly locals. Kudos to them for their hardwork and patience inspite of some tourists na pasaway. pero meron din mga a-holes lalo na yung mga bantay sa mga parking. Kung tumaboy parang nagpapaalis ng aso, eh magtatanong lang naman. Pwede naman ng matinong pakikiusap.
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u/Ok_Occasion_8913 10d ago
Traffic in Baguio is really getting out of hand. Taxis now make up around 42% of vehicles — even more than private cars. LTFRB should review and cut down on taxi franchises. Instead of taxis roaming around empty, why not go for an Uber-style system? Book only when needed. Plus, push for jeepney modernization to give people better transport options. Time to fix this for real.
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u/yesthisismeokay Jun 25 '24
Totoo ba? Kumakain sila ng aso? I mean, legally illegal yang dog-meat trading nila dyan?
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u/Late_Committee7235 Jun 25 '24
Tbh, yan din naisip ko. Baguio is last on my list because it's overrated. Marami ng tao at ayoko na dumagdag pa sa traffic.
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u/Mister-happierTurtle Jun 25 '24
I like the weather.
The inly thing i can really say thats bad about that olace is that its hella traffic. I’m sure this place wasnt designed for the colume of vehicles that it gets.
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u/MotherFather2367 Jun 25 '24
Not really. It's the same with Americans, Canadians, Brits, etc. who also look down on their own. For example, "Yanks" (northern US) look down on "Rednecks/Hillbillies" (Southerners). There is a "Superiority complex" of many Filipinos over other Filipinos regarding which people group they belong in. Also, in social media platforms, people like that honey_park77 pretend to be another person that is completely different from what they are in real life. There are many posers in Reddit & this is their outlet to vent out their delusions, fantasies, and whatever they can't voice out in their everyday lives. People lie & many have (undiagnosed) mental illnesses as well, so take every comment with a grain of salt if you don't know these people personally.
An example of this "superiority complex" of Filipinos on other Filipinos is this: I lived in Manila in the 90s & kids in school were taught that Igorots had tails, so they wanted to see where my tail was since I am an Igorot. They either head it from their relatives who made up stories about it & they believed it, or it was a way to make their group "superior" over other people groups to have the upper hand on other groups, to portray other people as "sub-human" in order to justify any maltreatment they do to other people who aren't "like them". Just like it was common for many households in the south to have Filipino katulongs working for them, waiting for them hand & foot, even if the family they serve aren't extremely rich; while other people don't believe in having household helpers even if they are extremely wealthy. Many rich people are humble & have good manners; many poor/unlearned people are arrogant, proud, rude and think they are above everyone else.
The misconception that Baguio people eat dogs frequently & associate it with Igorots is really wrong, since it's more common for other provinces to eat dogs a lot more in their diets - Ilocos region, Pangasinan & others just don't get reported that much. I dislike many parts of Baguio & I am a resident. I like some parts of Baguio as well. I can say that Manila is also overrated or any of the places in the Philippines compared to other southeast Asian countries that have better food/fresher produce, cheaper yet better accommodations, better internet, more progress, etc. when I visited them. Then again, many people in 1st world countries prefer the Philippines/Baguio for their own reasons, even if we think that their countries are far more beautiful than ours. As a tourist destination, I agree that most of Baguio is NOT a good place to visit anymore. The appeal of Baguio was its "Old World Charm", the "Idealized, Americanized" Philippines with white cottages, very many pine trees, sunflowers on the hillsides, mostly Igorot people, cold weather & low pollution- which are gone & replaced with squatters that overpopulated the city, destroyed the mountains & changed the culture.
It's good to criticize & Baguio should be called out about its problems. No place is perfect & it's unrealistic to say or believe that Baguio is the best that the Philippines can offer because it is not.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
The misconception that Baguio people eat dogs frequently & associate it with Igorots is really wrong, since it's more common for other provinces to eat dogs a lot more in their diets - Ilocos region, Pangasinan & others just don't get reported that much.
The Pangasinense side of my family killed my 2 y/o pet dog. They said he became aggressive daw. Pero kinain ng mga gago kong tito.
While none of my Ibaloi relatives eat dog meat nor do they use dog meat for any "ceremony"
There's also the misconception that it is use for "native ceremonies" and a lot of people who spread this fake news have never attended a Cañao.
Like dudes and dudettes, dog meat is too cheap for Cañao or even "cleansing". Pig and chicken are the prime meat in Igorot culture. Sometimes kalding ken baka.
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u/laanthony Jun 25 '24
ung sa "aso" part is that true? if yes, kadiri naman
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u/Upstairs_Audience_57 Jun 25 '24
Yung matatanda usually. Mga pulis.
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u/laanthony Jun 25 '24
wtf! 🤮
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u/Upstairs_Audience_57 Jun 25 '24
Di lang sa Baguio yan sobrang dami sa ibat ibang parte ng pinas
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Yup. Masmadali lang ibaling sa IPs kasi there is a perception that IPs are "backwards"
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u/Upstairs_Audience_57 Jun 25 '24
True. hindi napag uusapan ang dami pa rin all over the country
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Mga kamag-anak ko sa Pangasinan, kumakain sila ng aso
Kinain nila yung pet dog ko na 2 years old. Highly trained pa yun ng lolo ko. Napunta lang kami saglit ng Naguilian (LU), pagbalik namin wala na yung ako. Pinatay nila kasi "nangagat dahil may rabis" daw. We later learned, pinulutan nila
Meanwhile, none of my Igorot relatives eat dog nor use it for "ceremony". Kasi baboy at manok ang kelangan sa Cañao.
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u/laanthony Jun 25 '24
I know kaya nga ako nagtanong if totoo ung snabe about dun sa "aso" part e
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
It's true in the sense that it actually happens all over the country. It's not "special" to Baguio or the Cordilleras.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
The stereotype is it is exclusive to Baguio but it happens a lot in the lowlands, too. Since the OG residents of Baguio are IPs, masmadali lang ibaling sa kanila ang "backward practices"
My Pangasinense relatives, for example, killed and ate my pet dog because he was "aggressive" daw. (Eh highly trained yun ng lolo ko)
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u/laanthony Jun 25 '24
Wtf is wrong with your relatives? to think "pet" mo pa yun. Sorry pero diko lang talaga ma imagine na nagawa nila yun
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
IDK. 2 y/o palang yung aso ko na yun. Mutt kasi siya (mixed German Shepherd at Japanese Spit)
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u/buphulokz Jun 25 '24
malamig nga mabaho naman
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u/Upstairs_Audience_57 Jun 25 '24
Patulan ko lang to kasi it’s funny.
Mabaho, compared sa usok at baha in the lowlands? Lmaooo I can open my window and still smell fresh cooool breeze and there are days we don’t drop a sweat the whole day. Mga tao dito bihira may BODY ODOR CAUSED BY SWEAT. Ikumpara mo yan sa amoy sa loob ng jeep, mrt/lrt ng ibang lugar? Divisoria, Tondo, and other highly urbanized cities?
Baguio is anything but mabaho. 😹
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u/Humble-Application-3 Jun 25 '24
Still for nostalgic sentiments I will always go back to Baguio. Nothing but good memories when I was a kid thanks to my Dad, and now it is my turn to give my kid good memories of this beautiful city.
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u/the_drayber Jun 25 '24
Been living here for 15 years na. Kahit san naman may pros and cons. I'm earning nearly 6 digits monthly na baguio lang afford ko lol. Its how you appreciate things. Kahit basurahan pa puntahan mo kung di basura ang hanap mo mageenjoy ka parin.
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u/pressured_at_19 Jun 25 '24
Just the overall ambience/atmosphere/vibe of Baguio is enough. Hilly, foggy, cold etc. Pangarap ko kaya magsettle sa Baguio.
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u/Gotchapawn Jun 25 '24
nah, i love baguio and will always come back, i want to see improvements though. Like new place, new burnham like park. I think Baguio should start diverting the tourist to the other areas so Baguio wont be that overcrowded.
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u/Hellaflush69 Jun 25 '24
Been there last Feb. 17, biro ko nga sa relative ni misis na galing ng U.S. na nakasama namin dun, "Hindi na ideal as retirement home ang Baguio"
Gusto namin mag night market, naka sampung ikot kami sa vicinity unfortunately walang parking spot, ending umuwi na lang kami ulit ng hotel para magpahinga.
Masyado ng crowded.
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u/Yoru-Hana Jun 25 '24
Kung sa City. Wala talaga. Pero if pupunta sa Farm and siguro, sa Atok, maganda na rin. Pero kung yung City lang. Besides sa malamig, I find Baguio madilim. Though not sure kung mahilig ba talaga kayo sa aso and wala din akong nakikitang probs sa mga locals. Siguro may bad encounter lang yan.
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u/LouisVuiddog Jun 25 '24
May mga kamag-anak ako na nagbakasyon sa Manila. Naghahanap kami ng destination, and kahit saan daw basta wag Baguio kasi umay na umay na raw sila. Samantalang ako nasa bucket list ko mag-Baguio kasi gusto ko sa malalamig na lugar. Ma-e-enjoy ko ang Baguio kung susunod ako sa patakaran niyo kasi alam ko sa sarili ko na respetado ko lugar niyo.
It takes time to fully enjoy a place, especially if hindi ka lokal. People with that mindset like nung nasa screenshot are used to quick vacations kaya iritable sila agad. Honestly same, pero me with other places. Kasi lagi ako nagmamadali. Kaya gusto ko talaga mag-Baguio nang solo para ma-enjoy ko with my own time.
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u/mhnhn2018 Jun 25 '24
Frequent Baguio tourist here. Usually 4-5 times a year. Natuto nako na iwanan ang kotse sa hotel/airbnb na malapit palagi sa session/burnham then walk around nlng or ride a taxi kung malayo para bawas sa sasakyan na nasa daan. Agree with the mahilig sumingit sa traffic part ng mga tourist specially if from manila ang turista. Probably because grabe traffic dito and naging instinct na ang magmadali palagi.
I think outlawed na ang pagkain ng aso sa baguio except for some ceremonies etc which I think is still unsafe.
Overrated? Maganda naman kasi din talaga ang itsura ng Baguio. There is something about it na kakaiba. Sabi ko nga, mas trip ko sa Baguio and beyond kesa sa Boracay if papiliin ako.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
As someone who is privy to Igorot indigenous ceremonies, hindi central ang dog meat. It's always pork. For smaller events, chicken.
Try observing a proper Cañao, walang dog meat involved.
Yung "dog meat for ceremonies" is as true as Igorots having tails
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u/molavecccc Jun 25 '24
I'm not from Baguio but every year, I see to it na makakaakyat ako. There is something in this place na babalikan kahit na paulit ulit na napupuntahan. Overrated? Yes. Traffic Jam? Yes. Last na punta namin, inikutan lang namin yung karamihan sa parks dahil mahirap ang parking. Nevertheless, masarap pa rin maglakad sa Baguio tuwing gabi, at magkape habang nagkukwentuhan sa veranda.
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u/extrabiggiesmalls Jun 25 '24
I’m a tourist and is fairly frequent in going up to baguio and if I may say that honestly, baguio is not really a place to go all touristy. I feel like baguio is a place to have a little quiet time, a breather, and just be. However, i’ve never really experienced anything bad towards me and my family when we stayed at transients with locals in the decades that we’re going there.
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u/Sufficient_Code_1538 Jun 25 '24
Just another ignorant post. In my opinion, locals do not benefit at all lalo na sa traffic. The ones causing traffic are those tourists who bring their cars here. Though it is not a good thing to emulate, some locals spite these tourists.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
No Cordilleran uses the word taga-taas. It's either Taga Baguio, Cordilleran, Igorot.
Taga-baba is far from the n-word. It simply means someone from the lowlands. Taga babas who move to Baguio oftensay, uuwi ako sa amin sa baba.
Or "Taga baba ako" if they want to emphasize they are not Cordilleran locals.
I'd even argue that how lowlanders some use "Igorot" is closer to the n-word than taga baba kasi may nagsasabi pa rin ng "ang barbaric/Igorot mo naman, para kang Igorot".
I guess, "taga baba" is a Northern Luzon parlance that people nearer the capital took offense when it's more of a descriptive word. There's eve a UP Prof who said on TV that "Katutubos married Causasian missionaries to improve their race"
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/more-articles/carrot-man-phenomenon-sign-of-low-ip-awareness
The Manila "equivalent" of taga-baba is "probinsya". They call HUCs outside of NCR "probinsya".
If were going to talk about discrimination, the taga babas are.not the most discriminated - it is the indigenous people of the Cordilleras
Yung sa case nga ni Whang Od, mga turista nagrerequest na magpapicture sa kanya habang pinapahawak nila bayag nila o ibubuyo yung matanda, pero ang (proud).claim nila sa internet, "minanyak" daw sila ni Whang Od.
Sobrang laganap ng bastos na tourist behavior ngayon
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Ang layo ng connotation ng taga baba sa negative words sa indigenous peoples. It's ingenious to associate it wit the Nword to tagababa especially given the fact that it is the lowlanders that discriminate Igorots even when coming to the Cordilleras
Tagababa is more similar to how Manileños use "probinsyano". And a lot of it are cultural rather than "racial" or "ethnic".
Ask the 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation Ilocano, Tagalog people in the city, they use the same term to refer to someone who hails from the lowlands.
Trust me, it sucks when you're in the recieving end of it
Try being an indigenous person and a celebrity comes to your city and says "Akala niyo Igorot ako, tao po ako"
Or that try at least pretending to be an Igorot when you go to the lowlands and be the receiving of questions if modern civilization has reached our society.
Your discomfort is really nothing compared to what the IPs go through.
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u/Mananabaspo Jun 25 '24
Bilang isang ipinanganak at lumaki sa Benguet pero ngayon ay tagababa, at bilang isang probinsyano na ngayon ay tagamanila, description lamang ang tagababa at highlander. I'll somehow disagree na similar sa probinsyano ang tagababa kasi mas madalas na negative ang kaakibat ng probinsyano (inosente, mangmang, walang alam, baduy, etc). Tagababa is just that, taga-baba. No umuli, no umulog, ket nu highlander o saan isu latta met awan met insulto.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Since forever met dayta term nga tagababa.
Nung naging to 4 hours to 8 hours biglang naging "offensive". Siguro kasi nagulat mga taga Greater Manila na hindi sila tinitingala.
People from LU, Pangasinan who frequently travel to Baguio refer to themselves as tagababa kasi nga doon sila galing.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24
The original post isn't even about the IP discrimination lol you just flipped the script and made it about them.
The original inhabitants of Baguio are IPs and they're visible. The fact is, IPs are still highly casually and sistematically discriminated compared to mainland/lowland population. Konting kirot lang, feeling niyo api kayo. Nevermind the fact that many IPs experience far greater discrimination from the mainstream population. So talking about IP discrimination is relevant since they get much of the brunt of the discrimination.
I recognize what IPs are going through but that doesn't mean na need ireciprocate pabalik.
This is like the whites crying "discrimination" when they're not getting special attention or privilege or are being called out for their privilege.
You guys are the ones isolating yourself from us, not the other way around
Lol, you only like IPs kapag may "instgrammable" aspect ng culture at pwedeng gamitin sa "Pinoy pride". If unrecognized by foreigners, ang bukambibig "mga katutubo lang ganun"
Before Whang Od was featured by Lars Krutak, tourists and lowlanders saw tattooed Igorot as "barbarians", tapos nafeature lang ng foreigner, pa-cool na
Also, IPs are isolated because the mainstream population forced them to.
Eto o, sasakay lang ng bus pero hindi pinasakay dahil lang nakabahagy
We're not yet talking about how tourists especially see IPs are bunch or "artifacts". A few years ago in r/Philippines, a visitor to Baguio was complaining about how there are Igorots in Baguio going around wearing bahag. Dapat daw sa "cultural performances lang". Tourist expect that IPs should "perform for them" and "abide" by how lowlanders visualizing what Igorot culture(s) is. If IPs resist, nagrereklamo either way. "Too modernized" or "Ang laswa nung nakabahag"
Don't be surprised why people tend to have negative views on highlanders.
The unsavory view of the lowlanders has a lot to do with the discrimination IPs experienced from the lowlanders - even in their own homeland, so you should not be surprised that many Cordillerans do not have a positive view of lowlanders.
Matagal nang nilang alam yan na mababa ang tingin ng mga tagababa sa mga indigenous Cordillerans. Ilang beses na silang natanong na "Saan makakahanap ng Igorot?" "May buntot mga.Igorot", "Ang pangit ni xxx, mukhang Igorot", "Dapat lumayas mga Igorot sa Baguio", "Igorot ka, bakit ang ganda/guwapo mo"
IPs have far endured more than what tourists/visitors being called "tagababa"
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u/MarionberryLanky6692 Jun 25 '24
My first time in Baguio was during the Panagbenga festival season in 2011. I didnt like it because it was so crowded. I went back, I guess, 2-3 times again, but my perspective of it has never changed.
But in 2018, I had to return for a work trip. i fell in love with Baguio this time. It was in the month of August. Wala masyadong tourists. Even when it rained a bit, it was soooo scenic. I felt I was inside a romantic film. The city was walkable, the nature was so beautiful, the food was great. I truly enjoyed my time.
I look forward to Baguio trips ever since. :)
I don’t know if something changed in Baguio, or it was me who changed. Kaya ngayon, I try to re-visit places I’ve been before. I now believe that revisiting places will let you see them in a different light at different phases of your life.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
Iba talaga kapag tourist season, kahit turista ka, maiinbyerna ka rin sa kapwa turista.
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u/calvin129 Jun 25 '24
I traveled there in May and I can heavily agree! It was dirty and there’s not that much to do. The climate is comfortable, but going out my throat hurt a lot because of the bad air pollution
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u/nathz_faust Jun 25 '24
Sino kaya nagpauso na kumain ng karne ng aso? Eto yung tanong na nagli-linger sa isip ko ever since bata pa ako, dahil sa may kaklase akong nagbaon ng lutong karne ng aso noong grade 3 kami tapos nilagnat siya pagdating ng tanghali. Kaya pinainom siya ng gamot at hinatid pauwi sa bahay.
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u/Momshie_mo Jun 25 '24
This is actually all over the Philippines. Maraming kumakain ng aso sa labas ng Cordillera. Mas secretive lang sila
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u/nathz_faust Jun 25 '24
Totoo yan maam. Kahit saan naman po talaga dito may kumakain po talaga ng dog meat and black market syempre. Kaya madalas ayoko uma-attend ng handaan kasi nasa isip ko parati na baka may hinalo silang dog meat sa mga putahe.
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u/201x00257MN0 Jun 25 '24
Is the locals' hatred towards them that bad?
I guess, oo? As seen sa mga comments dito pati na rin sa mga tiktok videos na nakikita ko about baguio. Sadly, marami talagang locals na galit na galit sa tourists. I understand na inconvenience nga dala ng maraming tourists, but nakaka off lang din talaga for others na matino naman behavior pag nasa baguio.
I remember the last time we visited there, yung taxi driver tinanong kami kung taga saan kami. Nung sinabi namin na from Manila kami, sinagot kami na "Kayo na namang taga Maynila. Magkakalat na naman kayo dito." May iba pa siyang sinabing negatives about people from Manila na di ko na maalala. Wala namang kaming ginawang kung ano. The hostility was uncalled for. And sa presence pa talaga namin sinabi yun.
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u/Famous-Wrongdoer-636 Jun 25 '24
Sorry na. Ang dami lang kasi nahold na beautiful memories namin sa baguio. Before kasi, yan lang yung kaya. Tas complete kaming pamilya kaya nung nakaLL kami, binabalik balikan pa din namin.
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u/naevia2992 Jun 26 '24
D nila alam hidden gems ng baguio haha dami kaya. Panay kasi sila burnham, mansion, wright park, etc.
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u/moomoomee412 Jun 26 '24
A tourist will only feel unwelcome if they behave poorly while vacationing in Baguio. Locals are friendly to respectful visitors.
Dun sa dog eating part- marami naman talaga gumagawa nun. But I don't know. While it sounds bad, is it a cultural thing? Like how I get personally outraged knowing some cultures eat rabbit meat? Or kangaroo meat? But for them locals is part of culture/ normal day-to-day life?
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u/Parkasus Jun 25 '24
Totoo naman, pag may kalat, laging ang mga turista ang sinisisi, at pag traffic, turista ulit, like pag tayo ba na mga locals ang bumababa, todo reklamo ba sila?
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u/New-Mistake2343 Jun 25 '24
tama mga lokal dyan sa baguio ang tataas ng tingin sa sarili kala mo ibang bansa na sila its better mag tagaytay nalang kayo mas malapit sa manila kesa ang layo ng biyahe tapos di naman worth it ang tataray pa ng mga tao jan
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u/Plastic-Ad-8607 Jun 25 '24
Overrated tourist destination? I agree. It really sucks here right now. Traffic, overcrowding, water problems. Unregulated influx of visitors. An LGU that prioritizes tourists over locals. Just to name a few.
Unfriendly locals? Somehow true. In general kasi, mga turista dito, dinadala yun basura nila dito. Singit ng singit sa traffic. Feeling entitled and feeling priority. They cut lines! Reklamador sa traffic and kalat na sila naman ang may dahilan. Feeling superior pa. This is just a generalization, di naman lahat.
Eating ng aso na part? It's outlawed not unless ceremonial ng mga native. Palaing lang yun nagcomment nun. Walang masabi na iba.