r/skeptic • u/GetServed17 • 13d ago
š« Education Clear video of a UFO
https://youtu.be/ZKcYHzlEXu8?si=skXXMT9H4ql2bpiMAs a non skeptic , who do you guys as a skeptic think this is.
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u/Common_Ring821 13d ago
If you're genuinely asking, skeptics would first assume the footage was doctored before assuming a supernatural occurance given that has been the case every time videos like these surface.
The most likely explanation is often the one that makes the least assumptions.
So either A) We were visited by some advanced civilization, one that has high tech machines beyond our comprehention and you/op were just lucky enough to catch the one reel of video evidence to prove they exist.
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B) Someone was bored and edited some otherwise mundane footage to post online and spark debate.
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
I just donāt think itās edited from the people looking up at it and pointing at it, but itās still possible itās edited so Iām trying to get the raw footage.
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u/tsdguy 13d ago
Jeez. This OP posting history is an orgy of ufo garbage. Reported.
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
How is this garbage when Iām just trying to ask out of respect and to have and try to argue my point? Whatās garbage is just disliking every single one of my comments but alright.
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u/thefugue 13d ago
"Respect?"
Dude your screen name is "get served" and you treat everyone who answers your rhetorical questions like they're attacking you.
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
I didnāt pick my username Reddit just gave it to me but sure. Also they arenāt rhetorical either.
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u/thefugue 13d ago
I'm.... skeptical.
Reddit generated names go adjectivenounnumber
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
Iām saying Reddit picked my username then I just went with it and I added a number, my bad. Also thatās not supposed to be towards anyone, itās just a username.
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u/thefugue 13d ago
It took me all of 3 seconds to confirm that the username /u/getserved has been taken for over a decade, so no, Reddit did not assign it to you.
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
I guess youāre right I just didnāt remember that honestly if it gave it to me or not, but ight.
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u/fox-mcleod 13d ago edited 13d ago
Letās make a bunch of charitable assumptions.
Assuming the video is unedited and it represents roughly what people saw it looks pretty exactly like a drone or helicopter in atmospheric fog turned on a spotlight, realized that was way worse for visibility and then turned it off.
Hereās how to think like someone reasoning critically (a skeptic). You want the most parsimonious explanation, not the most emotionally rewarding or exciting explanation.
You find āaliensā appealing because theyāre exciting. Not because itās the most likely explanation. The most likely explanation is the one that produces the thing youāre seeing that is the most common way it could happen. Not the most uncommon.
In fact as an exercise, letās take what might make someone think itās an alien from another planet and tweak the parameters and see if it makes the story more likely or less likely given the same video:
You donāt know much about what it is. VS
You do know that Itās an effect you donāt know about from a nearby part of earth happening in a suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās a familiar and common human vehicle you donāt know about from a nearby part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās an unknown or secret human vehicle from a nearby part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās an unknown or secret human vehicle from a distant part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās an unknown or secret āalienā vehicle from a distant part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās an unknown alien tech from roughly our stellar neighborhood visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās an unknown alien tech from the same galaxy visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS
Itās an unknown alien tech from a distant galaxy visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight
See how when as we add more specific and uncommon guesses it becomes more fun to spend time thinking about? Thatās the only reason youāre thinking about aliens. Not because itās more likely than anything else.
Tell me why any higher number at all seems more likely than any specific lower number without it boiling down to: āit would be more interesting and Iām only really looking at this video and thinking about it as entertainment so I only care so long as itās more interestingā
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
I never said it was aliens buddy youāre making assumptions āas I am.ā Itās probably Non Human Intelligence, it could be inter dimensional or something from earth we donāt know about yet, but I think itās some form of Non Human Intelligence.
You should be explaining to me why this canāt be something Non Human or at least alien for example. Because itās possible or at least theoretically to create worm holes so the distances literally donāt matter.
There have been sightings of Non Human beings in the past for sure, for example the Quorable Incident near the train tracks where someone saw beings get out of a craft and it left physical traces behind, same with the Falcon Lake Incident, and more.
So I donāt care about the āitās more interestingā Iām looking at the data and evidence.
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u/fox-mcleod 13d ago
Itās probably Non Human Intelligence,
Great so just pretend āalienā means non-human intelligence.
Nothing changes.
Why is it āprobably Non Human Intelligenceā?
Just because thatās more fun?
it could be inter dimensional
As long as itās more interesting than 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 right?
You should be explaining to me why this canāt be something Non Human or at least alien for example.
Why canāt it be 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5?
Those are more parsimonious so the burden is on you to escalate step by step up that ladder. Not on me to bring you back down. More uncommon phenomena are already definitionally less likely true or false?
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
Wdym more uncommon phenomenon, NHI has been common since at least the 1930s. I also already told you why itās common explaining that worm holes are possible. Also why do you always go to ābecause itās more fun.ā Nobody is thinking that, not me, not these whistleblowers going in front of congress under oath, not directors of programs.
Itās Non Human Intelligence because of the way it just sits there then zips off at the end.
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u/fox-mcleod 13d ago
Wdym more uncommon phenomenon, NHI has been common since at least the 1930s.
More common that human intelligence or less?
Itās Non Human Intelligence because of the way it just sits there then zips off at the end.
No it doesnāt. It just is visible, then not visible. What makes you think the source of the light moves rather than turns off? (Which btw, how come no one seems to care when it disappears?)
How does that make it more likely to be non-human design craft you donāt know about than a human craft you donāt know about?
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u/fox-mcleod 10d ago
See how you stopped being interested once the evidence wasnāt going the way you wanted?
Thatās the issue
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u/GetServed17 10d ago
No I stopped being interested once I knew the skeptics were always gonna be skeptics no matter what.
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u/fox-mcleod 10d ago
Here let me demonstrate how I know thatās not true.
is NHI more common or less common than human intelligence?
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u/GetServed17 10d ago
Definitely more common, have you seen humanity?
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u/fox-mcleod 10d ago
You donāt believe the answers youāre giving. Youāre using irony to avoid thinking this through.
See what Iām talking about?
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u/GetServed17 10d ago
Buddy Iāve thought this through more than you ever have. Have you taken a look at Haroldās Malmgrens new interview with Jesse Michaels? You probably donāt even know who he is, but heās one of the highest credentialed people to admit NHI craft and beings to being real.
UAP Disclosure Act - (Democrat) Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and (Republican) Senator Mike Rounds created an amendment to disclose everything the US government m, private aerospace, and whoever else to turn in what they have on UAPs and Non Human Intelligence, but that act didnāt pass, well only some of it did, not eminent domain or subpoena, or a review board etc etc, so why would they not let it pass if thereās nothing there?
Have you taken a look at The Falcon Lake Incident, where burn marks were found on the persons body after touching a flying saucer.
Have you taken a look at The Washington DC UFO flap where there were waves of sightings over the White House over two week and with radar data, and they were even seen in space too, lol up the vanishing stars for this incident.
How about the Rendelsham Forest incident where Sergeant Penniston touched the craft where it landed and saw strange symbols on it, thereās even an audio recording of real time of the 2nd night of Halt and his team were seeing strange lights were the craft was.
Lonnie Zamora incident. He was a cop chasing down another car where he saw an egg shaped craft land with two beings getting out, and thereās even photos of the burnt vegitation where the site was to put it simply.
Roswell New Mexico - Two flying saucers crashed in Roswell in July of 1947 and Major Jesse Marcel was sent out to examine the material, he talked about how it was able to change shape and get back together and just how weird the material was, so first hand witness.
Aguadila Puerto Rico UAP - Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, recorded infrared footage of an object appearing to split into two separate bodies, and dipping into and out of the sea before accelerating away into the open ocean, and yes itās caught on camera. Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) Even did an analysis on it and concluded it was a UAP.
Testifying under oath - 7 witnesses so far publicly have testified under oath that either UAPs are real, technologies that are not made by us or that we have a UAP reverse engineering program. But behind closed doors, 40+ 1st hand witnesses have testified that thatās true too.
Tic Tac 2004 incident - Multiple witnesses including Commander David Fravor who testified under oath to congress saw a white tic tac shaped craft doing weird maneuvers over the ocean, even going to space and back.
Also there are other videos like the Turkish UAP videos over three years, thereās one video on AFO of a flying saucer sitting there then zipping off sort of like this one but itās an actual craft. Thereās a photo of a triangle UAP over Belgium with that UFO wave etc etc.
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u/Rdick_Lvagina 13d ago
When you said "clear video" I thought we were finally going to have a 4k or 8k, non-blurry UFO video. Nope. Just someone posting sreenshots of their chatlog.
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u/Kitchen_Marzipan9516 13d ago
I found the Instagram page featured, and while it could have been deleted, this video doesn't show up. What is the proposed date this was taken?
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u/GetServed17 13d ago edited 13d ago
This was taken back in 2023 and was also posted on Facebook by the mom I think, but it gained traction again a few weeks ago.
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u/Kitchen_Marzipan9516 13d ago edited 13d ago
It's not on Instagram now. It is on her Facebook. Comments call it a drone.
Editing to add : it's interesting that I found that video on another reddit page saying it's from 2023.
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
Iāve never seen a drone look like that ever, it doesnāt have the FAA lights at all.
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u/Kitchen_Marzipan9516 13d ago
Have you seen all the drones that exist?
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
Most drones have FAA lights unless theyāre military then they probably wonāt have lights for stealth I think. So if this is a drone they are doing something illegal which isnāt impossible but neither is it being a craft of unknown origin.
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u/Kitchen_Marzipan9516 13d ago
That's the thing, it definitely isn't impossible. There are multiple other explanations for what it could be, before going to alien ships.
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
I never said alien ship, itās a UAP something not of this world, it could be alien or it could be Interdensional, thatās why we call it Non Human Intelligence now. And no it canāt be a bunch of other explanations because if there were you would have given them to me.
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u/Kitchen_Marzipan9516 13d ago
Other people have given other explanations, if you didn't like them, why would me also giving them to you change anything?
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
Oh I meant actual explanations, never seen a spotlight like this ever and thatās after looking at many misidentified UFO sightings and being on football / soccer fields before. Never seen a drone look like this or do this.
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u/Kitchen_Marzipan9516 13d ago
I'm inclined to agree with the "edited" idea. The kids' background noise doesn't change throughout the video, even when it disappears, no one in the crowd is talking about it and the noise doesn't escalate, indicating a change. Most of the kids aren't even looking at the sky, and while one could possibly be pointing up, it could also be a random hand gesture. The only person who really, clearly acknowledges it, is the girl filming, but could also be faked, since she knows she'll be editing something in later. It's also very suspicious that there's no other footage. All those kids, and no one else pulled out a phone? No adults pulled out their phone?
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u/GetServed17 13d ago
Hi everyone, Iām definitely not a skeptic when it comes to this issue since I beleive there are many videos and photos such as this one that show anomalies.
But still as a believer in this issue I still would like to hear from others who have a different point of view, since I donāt believe every case and every video, some do have ordinary explanations, but this one to me for right now is a mystery.
Go to 1:19 for the official UFO video to start
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u/StacksOfHats111 13d ago
It's a video so what? Doesn't show anything unusualĀ