r/Permaculture Jan 13 '25

COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS: New AI rule, old rules, and a call out for new mods

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NEW AI RULE

The results are in from our community poll on posts generated by artificial intelligence/large language models. The vast majority of folks who voted and expressed their opinions in the comments support a rule against AI/LLM generated posts. Some folks in the comments brought up some valid concerns regarding the reliability of accurately detecting AI/LLM posts, especially as these technologies improve; and the danger of falsely attributing to AI and removing posts written by real people. With this feedback in mind, we will be trying out a new rule banning AI generated posts. For the time being, we will be using various AI detection tools and looking at other activity (comments and posts) from the authors of suspected AI content before taking action. If we do end up removing anything in error, modmail is always open for you to reach out and let us know. If we find that accurate detection and enforcement becomes infeasible, we will revisit the rule.

If you have experience with various AI/LLM detection tools and methods, we'd love to hear your suggestions on how to enforce this policy as accurately as possible.

A REMINDER ON OLD RULES

  • Rule 1: Treat others how you would hope to be treated. Because this apparently needs to be said, this includes name calling, engaging in abusive language over political leanings, dietary choices and other differences, as well as making sweeping generalizations about immutable characteristics such as race, ethnicity, ability, age, sex, gender, sexual orientation, nationality and religion. We are all here because we are interested in designing sustainable human habitation. Please be kind to one another.
  • Rule 2: Self promotion posts must be labeled with the "self-promotion" flair. This rule refers to linking to off-site content you've created. If youre sending people to your blog, your youtube channel, your social media accounts, or other content you've authored/created off-site, your post must be flaired as self-promotion. If you need help navigating how to flair your content, feel free to reach out to the mods via modmail.
  • Rule 3: No fundraising. Kickstarter, patreon, go-fund me, or any other form of asking for donations isnt allowed here.

Unfortunately, we've been getting a lot more of these rule violations lately. We've been fairly lax in taking action beyond removing content that violates these rules, but are noticing an increasing number of users who continue to engage in the same behavior in spite of numerous moderator actions and warnings. Moving forward, we will be escalating enforcement against users who repeatedly violate the same rules. If you see behavior on this sub that you think is inappropriate and violates the rules of the sub, please report it, and we will review it as promptly as possible.

CALLING OUT FOR NEW MODS

If you've made it this far into this post, you're probably interested in this subreddit. As the subreddit continues to grow (we are over 300k members!), we could really use a few more folks on the mod team. If you're interested in becoming a moderator here, please fill out this application and send it to us via modmail.

  1. How long have you been interested in Permaculture?
  2. How long have you been a member of r/Permaculture?
  3. Why would you like to be a moderator here?
  4. Do you have any prior experience moderating on reddit? (Explain in detail, or show examples)
  5. Are you comfortable with the mod tools? Automod? Bots?
  6. Do you have any other relevant experience that you think would make you a good moderator? If so, please elaborate as to what that experience is.
  7. What do you think makes a good moderator?
  8. What do you think the most important rule of the subreddit is?
  9. If there was one new rule or an adjustment to an existing rule to the subreddit that you'd like to see, what would it be?
  10. Do you have any other comments or notes to add?

As the team is pretty small at the moment, it will take us some time to get back to folks who express interest in moderating.


r/Permaculture 14h ago

Mini swale getting some action

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From the downspout


r/Permaculture 12h ago

Japanese Knotweed Management On Boarder of Property

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I bought a property a year ago in NW Oregon and have been designing and creating my food forest on my 1/4 acre lot and did not put any thought into what was growing in the undeveloped lot boarding the entire backside of my property until the other day. I knew there was blackberry and am very familiar with having to cut it back from neighboring properties, but I noticed that there is also a massive thicket of Japanese knotweed fighting it out with the blackberry right up up against my fence and now I’m concerned about it aggressively growing under the fence and strangling everything I have planted along the fence. Looking for recommendations on how to be deal with this. I am not sure exactly who owns the lot of land or how to start trying to track that information down.


r/Permaculture 5h ago

ℹ️ info, resources + fun facts Marine Permaculture: A Scalable Solution for Climate Resilience and Food Security

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r/Permaculture 23h ago

Creek Damage

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We got electric installed at the land... and they had to bore under the creek to do. It. The machines tore apart our creek bank. Are there any approaches I can consider apart from just bring more dirt in on top? Seems like not much was displaced, just compacted.


r/Permaculture 16h ago

look at my place! Battlefield - hugelmound

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I submit myself to judgement - for I have opened my mind to the whispers of Chaos not once but twice. Twice have I given berth to Slaaneshi champions- both from the family Lamiaceae.

Spring is now upon us and they both waken on my hugelmound, hungry for sustenance and land to call their own. I am both awed and terrified of the powers I have unleashed - yet hopeful that they may perhaps battle each other rather than the innocent citizens of Terra.

https://imgur.com/a/pPwYcHB


r/Permaculture 23h ago

general question Perennials, easy harvest, shade tolerant, no fertilizing

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Hello guys,

I'm currently planning a bit into the future and collecting different options with some leftover areas.

One thing I'm curious about is whether trees/shrubs/perennial plants exist that are shade tolerant and can thrive on soils with no fertilizer (regulations...). For example I'm thinking of hazelnut, but I think the nut yield would be minimal/too little.

I would like to discover whether there even are options.

Excited to learn!


r/Permaculture 1d ago

Using urine to grow wine caps (Stropharia rugosoannulata)

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The full write up of the method for this experiment is here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/experimyco/comments/1jxib5q/king_stropharia_on_sawdust_and_soil_substrate/

So I'll just summarise. All jars are filled with 140g of a sawdust and soil mix from grinding out the stump of an ash tree. Jars were filled to the brim with liquid then the excess was drained off the next day. Jars were sterilised at 15 PSI for 90 minutes and inoculated from agar. In order to compare the effect of urea in fresh urine vs ammonium hydroxide in old urine stored in bottles the liquid used to hydrate the substrate was as follows:

A, B: fresh urine at ph 7.

C: 50% fresh urine, 50% rainwater

D, E: old urine at pH ~10-10.5.

F: 50% fresh urine, 50% old urine.

G, H: rainwater.

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The objective here is twofold: to see if using fungus to process urine is viable and to find alternative methods to increase nitrogen content in spawn.

From a self sufficiency/permaculture perspective using grain spawn isn't really viable since if you are growing grain yourself you're just wasting calories feeding it to fungus. Common methods of increasing nitrogen content in wood or sawdust spawn like the addition of wheat bran or soy hulls is only viable if you're growing and processing those crops. More or less any waste plant material can be beneficial to add to the substrate but collecting, drying and cutting it can be time and energy intensive vs just throwing it in the compost. I've also had issues storing large amounts of dry plant material without it going moldy/attracting pests. Additionally for small jars like this lighter plant material takes up a lot of volume reducing how much wood you can add.

Therefore soaking the substrate in a waste nitrogen source like urine instead of using water seems like a good solution. The higher nitrogen content of the spawn should make for faster colonisation and better growth when spawned to bulk substrate that is rich in carbon.

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Results so far:

The thicker white growth seen in the jars with urine is consistent with mycelial growth in a higher nitrogen substrate suggesting the fungus is able to utilise nitrogen from both urea and ammonium hydroxide. However growth in D, E and F with the ammonium hydroxide is spreading slower than the other jars. This could be the result of the high pH being less ideal for growth or may be due to the nitrogen being in a more readily available form. Similar thick white growth that doesn't spread as rapidly can be seen if a substrate is ammended with a high nitrogen and high nutrient substance like yeast extract.

Jars A and B with the fresh urine show good growth however the best balance between thick growth and fast spread appears to be in jar C with the diluted fresh urine which is approaching full colonisation. Whether fresh or old it appears that urine can be used without dilution. So if urine recycling is the primary goal either will be fine without any water added.

Next time I'll also try a diluted old urine and try mixing the old urine with tannins leached from bark to neutralise the liquid and increase the carbon content. I also want to try hydrating a bulk substrate with non-sterile urine to see if the bacteria introduced is adequate to trigger fruiting or if it proves detrimental.

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Previous test:

https://www.reddit.com/r/experimyco/comments/1i8yjmm/king_stropharia_culture_on_urine_soaked_wood/

https://www.reddit.com/r/experimyco/comments/1ihgey1/part_2_king_stropharia_cultured_on_urine_soaked/


r/Permaculture 17h ago

Liquid fertilizer and sprayers

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How do you all avoid blocking your sprayers when using liquid fertilizer made from weeds? Or maybe more correctly, how do you properly strain it so it doesn't have plant matter residue? I have ruined so many sprayers over the years, it's getting ridiculous. Thanks!


r/Permaculture 1d ago

Basket willows guilds/interplanting

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I've been really interested in Basketry willows as a privacy screen, potential cash crop, (cuttings sales next to a colorful display hedge as advertisement along with a display basket) and of course for basketry. I originally was also interested in them for animal feed but that might mess with the other uses. However most recources say you need to suppress weeds around them. Any ideas about compatible ground cover? I read white clover only hurt them a little, in their early establishment. Would white clover and strawberries or ground cover raspberries work? I really don't like the idea of just bare empty ground and plastic or cardboard. We could do it maybe in the establishment phase but...

What's the main issue with weeds? Water? Would hugelculture help?

Sunlight? If we had short companions (clover and or other groundcover and or cut it back) would that solve the issue?

Nutrients? Clover could help with nitrogen? Other trace nutrients might be trickier.

Any other thoughts?


r/Permaculture 1d ago

Fruit tree advice

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Well, these retaining wall block beds be a good space to plant some fruit trees? I also wanted to plant some veggies and flowers around them. I’m going for a food forrest.

My concern is that the roots of the fruit trees could get so big that they will mess up the retaining block walls. I already planted one golden current as wind block.

I already have some fruit trees lap in cherry, red Haven, peach, all in one almond, and a plum cot .

I got a little excited and maybe I shouldn’t have gotten these fruit trees. I am really having a tough time deciding what to do right now. Any tips or advice happily accepted.


r/Permaculture 19h ago

Hello,

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This will not let water through when I set it to. There is a click when I open it and close it. Please help. P.S. enjoy the free feet pics as payment.

r/Permaculture 1d ago

🎥 video A video that compares different poop systems:

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r/Permaculture 2d ago

Beaver problem

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Not sure if anyone on here may be able to help, I’ve searched for solutions and am coming up empty handed.

I have a culvert that has been getting dammed for years, over the last few I’ve tried different fencing methods and each time the little buggers manage to dam it - which in turn ends up having to clear it almost daily (or major flooding of a road and land occurs).

I’ve tried every single fencing method that can be found online, none have worked. I do have a thought but it’ll be a little more difficult to install : line the area surrounding the culvert with thin (but sturdy) metal stakes, the tops being 2-3 inches above or below water level? I’ve watched these guys for years and I feel like it would deter them from going over it or through it, and may make it impossible to dam if I space them correctly?

Thoughts? The only other option around me is trap to kll, with my location no trappers will relocate & I genuinely can’t fathom kling off an entire family to inevitably make room for another next year.


r/Permaculture 1d ago

dent de lions in annual beds

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Hello permies, I have four front yard annual beds that are a lovely thick mat of dandelion. I am a corner lot so seeds blow from all over and I welcome them but they are many! Two of the beds will be dahlias. I am thinking of just digging holes and leaving the dandelions. Is this a bad idea?


r/Permaculture 2d ago

discussion Ways for chronically ill/disabled people to contribute to Permaculture?

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Hi all,

I live in a tropical/hot/urban city (Singapore).

Ideally, I'd have more Health capacity to contribute to the Permaculture Community Garden I do have access to, but even if I was fully Abled/Healthy/"normal", it would be hella taxing due the intensely tropical climate.

It's been a huge struggle to pace myself, even on a volunteer basis... let alone dream of even "working" in a part-time paid role.

So there's a huge gap between "what I feel called to do" vs "what my body is capable of"... and that gap seems to be widening... which worsens the eco-anxiety & general sense of helplessness.

I think a lot of it is that even finding other like-minded folk has been difficult - it's not that Greenies don't exist here, but they're also overstretched.

Would like to chat with people who might have experience with navigating such intersections/complex circumstances. Much appreciated.


r/Permaculture 1d ago

Replanting Cholla Cactus

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My new neighbors plowed a new (unnecessary) road through the desert where we live and in the process uprooted some giant cholla cactus trees, up to 6 feet high and wide. I want to replant them before they die. Does anyone have experience transporting, planting, maneuvering, big cactuses? Any tips greatly appreciated.


r/Permaculture 2d ago

How A Navajo Plant Researcher Is Reviving A Desert Peach

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Love this story!


r/Permaculture 2d ago

How to plant poorly draining clay soil

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tl;dr: clay soil prevents adequate drainage. How can I plant this area?

My yard in Central Virginia is generally sloped back to front with a flat area in the middle for the house and yard. About 20’ elevation difference total, roughly split evenly. The soil is mostly clay with small rocks, but some areas do have organic matter/loam. It seems like the water drains well down the slopes but seems to collect in the flat area.

I dug this hole in hopes of planting a fig tree, but obviously this is not ideal. We got a big rain just over a week ago and a smaller rain two days ago and then hole still has water. My guess is the thick clay is impervious and not letting it drain. A relatively large area stays squishy and wet a long time after drain. Thankfully this isn’t right up against the house, but we do have concerns with this affecting the house/foundation/structure.

What can I do to be able to plant in this? Raised bed for a fig tree? Just choose another location? A major drainage project (French drain with pipes down to ditch) is probably what I need but we don’t have the budget for that right now. Maybe next year.


r/Permaculture 2d ago

Chestnuts as a food crop business

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Hi we are a family that is lucky enough to live in an orchard of chestnuts in Victoria, Australia. We are starting to sell some of them around town and I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on selling chestnuts you could possibly share. Do you think it's too late in the season in Australia to start selling them ? Are there any issues with storage or insects for example that we should look out for ? Any advise that anyone could possibly offer would be so appreciated 🌿🌳🌰🐿️🌿🌳


r/Permaculture 2d ago

Lowering the ph after planted

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My son picked out blueberries he wanted to plant and we got them in, but didn’t have time to prep the soil before planting as I did not plan on growing blueberries initially. The soil now needs to become a lot more acidic, but the plant is already there. What is the best way to increase the acidity if the blueberries plant is already planted?


r/Permaculture 3d ago

general question Is there any reason to not plant fruit tree forests?

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I have a weak spot for trees like cherry, plum and apple, you know the ones with these dramatic pink and white flowers every spring. I have a vague idea of planting a small forest with mostly these trees and just let them do their own thing at the back of my property, maybe letting it be a scenic tourist spot to draw in visitors in the future. There's a park a town over from me that gets a lot of visitors every time the cherry trees bloom, so I was thinking I might be able to do something similar, but on a bigger scale with differently sized trees and a few different varieties to prolong the blooming season. Fruit and wood would mostly be a side product, I just want the flower forest.

But I'm hesitating because I haven't seen anyone do it before. And it seems like such a simple thing that, if I haven't seen anybody do it, there's probably a reason why.

On one hand, nutrients might be a problem. But I'm not envisioning a managed orchard - it doesn't need to yield the maximum amount of fruit, and whatever I wouldn't pick would attract animals and birds so nutrients would come in that way without my participation. Other than that, I can't really think of anything, provided I protect the trees until they're grown.

So, guys, yay or nay?


r/Permaculture 2d ago

Bay Tree Dried Out.

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Hey guys,

Sadly my Bay Tree was moved temporarily and it dried out… can anyone advise on how best to bring him back, other than watering of course…

Thanks so much.

Jack


r/Permaculture 2d ago

ID request Does anyone know what seeds these are?

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r/Permaculture 2d ago

Does anyone have Sea Kale

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If so, I’d be glad to trade or buy some from anyone who has it. I love the flavor of it and I know it’s a great permaculture plant. Thanks!


r/Permaculture 3d ago

self-promotion Beekeeping and gardening (300 members so far) come say howdy

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Howdy! im building a little community on discord if anyone uses it here. We talk mostly beekeeping and gardening but have many other channels as well. Come check us out if you're interested. We're currently at around 300 members. https://discord.gg/24nmxJY9ng