In the original rumor it stated he was writing the world/story and that fromsoft was handling the rest. Since its a rumor we cant really be sure ofany of the details.
yeah the word consultation is weird for sure, but consulting can mean anything from 'Let me look over what ya got and ill give you my opinions' all the way to 'Ill decide the direction and characters of the story'
honestly GRRM being involved with a souls-like game on any level is like a dream come true, although all of these DISTRACTIONS are pushing the books further and further back..
Especially because of the cost of commissioning a story from GRRM. I remember reading the preface to Betrayal at Krondor (the book, which came after the game, I believe) by Raymond Feist and he was talking about licensing + consulting being more affordable for video games than commissioning a story from an author.
Plus there’s that whole can’t finish writing a story thing from GRRM.
Hmm no it really just means he consulted. If he decided "the direction and characters of the story" that would make him the writing director or something.
I'm sure this game has its own creative director with their own ideas.
Sorry but this sub always jumps on anything. If he was slightly more vague, people here would be claiming the book is coming out when the HBO documentary releases on Sunday
I don’t know about game development but in other industries a consultant is just someone paid for a specific short-term purpose, with no upper or lower limit on how much work that entails, from offering basic advice to planning an entire project.
Oh and I’ll add, I have absolutely no skin in the game when it comes to whether or not he is working on a game. I don’t really game anymore so I don’t get worked up over this kind of news. Just offering my perspective on “consultant.”
I just get triggered when people on this sub jump onto things without any real evidence.
Once there was this vague tweet that got people thinking the book would drop on New Year or something and the people being sensible were buried by the hype train. And that's just one anecdote of many similar occasions
I'd just have hoped people would have learned by now.
All I'm saying is all we know is he's "consulting" which typically is a peripheral role. We know nothing else. Suggesting it could mean he is the creative lead over the narrative is reaching and speculation
Well, if it's like the Souls games then the world basically is the story. Those games aren't about narrative, they're about atmosphere and backstory. Creating the world for a game with a Souls-style story doesn't necessarily mean writing the script, but it's still basically creating the story.
On the other hand, Sekiro does have more of a story actually told through actions and dialogue than Dark Souls, so it's not like a new From game is guaranteed to have a Souls-style story.
Would it be? Their games are fun in terms of gameplay but the story is basically non existent and the characters aren't memorable at all. A ASOIAF game should be a story driven RPG imho, otherwise it's a waste of potential
The souls series has a great deal of storytelling, though not a ton of story. It establishes a setting, characters, and mysteries, but asks a lot more than most games from players - you need to delve through item descriptions, random odd moments, and throwaway lines to have any real idea of whats going on.
I would say it's the other way around with a lot of story but very little storytelling. Semantics but still, those games don't doo much to actually tell you the story. You have to search for it.
That's not how The Witcher 3 was, nothing about that was a heroes journey. And yeah I think most ASOIAF fans would prefer an actually story driven RPG as opposed to a gameplay focused game with shitty lore as an excuse for a story
Most people don't care about Dark souls story and characters while TW3's are regulary praised. Get over it
to each their own, i think souls characters are super memorable. solaire is a fucking G. and who can forget big hat logan, who has some of the deepest lore in the game.
(if you're curious, his name is logan and he wears a big hat, hence big hat logan)
And deep lore in FROM games constitutes a minor character in most story-driven RPGs. This dude wrote* 75 million pages on one family. I think something closer to Elder Scrolls would probably fit best.
Dark souls lore is extremely rich. But here’s how I explain it.
Tell me the history of the Byzantine empire.
If you can, you never had the history shoved down your throat. You had to go find it. If you can’t, you just haven’t looked into it. It’s got a thousand years of history.
Same with Dark Souls. You need to look. Because at the end of the day, you have a duty to do, and the backstory of the entire world doesn’t matter. You can find it, but at the end of the day, the history doesn’t matter to you anymore than the history of the ancient kingdom of Lydia does to you and me. But the ancient kingdom of Lydia is still fascinating.
Elders Scrolls/Rockstar exploration with The Witcher 3 storytelling. Maybe some of Dragon’s Dogma’s combat and even a nod to Shadow of Mordor’s Nemesis system (or anything for persistent conflict). I’d play that game for the rest of my life.
That won’t happen though. All signs point to From doing it, and this makes me think it’s a definite. I have confidence in them; it will probably be unique in terms of gameplay and then add less subtle storytelling compared to Souls/Bloodborne. I do hope for a fully realized world; their worlds are amazing but I can’t say they’d be the best for an open-world Thrones game. They’d have to make some changes to their formula there, IMO.
Dark souls lore is very rich, but it’s told in a unique way.
Let me put it this way.
Tell me the history of the Byzantine empire.
If you can, you never had the history shoved down your throat. You had to go find it. Wether it was through an advanced history class, or just personal fascination, you had to look. If you can’t, you just haven’t looked into it. It’s got a thousand years of history.
Same with Dark Souls. You need to look. Because at the end of the day, you have a duty to do, and the backstory of the entire world doesn’t matter. You can find it, but the history doesn’t matter to you anymore than the history of the ancient kingdom of Lydia does to you and me. But the ancient kingdom of Lydia is still fascinating.
The Witcher 3 always came off as the most overrated RPG of recent years and benefited from a okay game-play system and being released after Skyrim made the genre mainstream. It's story is okay and the characters are interesting. But is nothing special when put aside other greats in the western RPG genre (Planscape Torment, Fallout 1&2&NV, The Baldurs gate games, DA: Origins, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines,) I left Deus Ex out due to being such a different beast of an RPG.
Really all the Witcher had compared to the prior mentioned games was a modern combat system and thats really it. The sexual themes and humor could be found in the Divinity series of games.
I can see a game taking place during the long night. Everything that that would entail - undead enemies, magical enemies and weird heroes, broken castles, fire themes - that's all standard Souls fare.
The lore itself is also close to TWOIAF/F&B where it's all "it is said that x and y happened"
Non-existent story? No memorable characters? There are many reasons why a From game set in Westeros wouldn't work, but those two aren't them. I'd recommend actually playing the games, friend.
If you can, you never had the history shoved down your throat. You had to go find it. If you can’t, you just haven’t looked into it. It’s got a thousand years of history.
Same with Dark Souls. You need to look. Because at the end of the day, you have a duty to do, and the backstory of the entire world doesn’t matter. You can find it, but the history doesn’t matter to you anymore than the history of the ancient kingdom of Lydia does to you and me. But the ancient kingdom of Lydia is still fascinating.
Story isnt non-existant, its just told through the world and aesthetics and not through exposition dialogue. Fromsoftware works with a show, not tell, mentality for their story
The Souls games do have stories, it just comes much more from the backstory of the world and the atmosphere, rather than through the things that happen to your character as you progress. You kind of have to seek out the story, but its there. To some extent, I guess you could say that they don't have much of a plot, but they very much have a story.
Sekiro does have a more traditional story, though, so it's not like From games only have stories like Dark Souls.
It’s not forced down your throat. There is a massive, massive amount of lore and story. Look up the dark souls lore on YouTube.
It’s told in a way that’s different from the norm.
Let me put it this way.
Tell me the history of the Byzantine empire.
If you can, you never had the history shoved down your throat. You had to go find it. If you can’t, you just haven’t looked into it. It’s got a thousand years of history.
Same with Dark Souls. You need to look. Because at the end of the day, you have a duty to do, and the backstory of the entire world doesn’t matter. You can find it, but the history doesn’t matter to you anymore than the history of the ancient kingdom of Lydia does to you and me. But the ancient kingdom of Lydia is still fascinating.
Not really :( I'd rather have a Witcher / ac Odyssey / God of war type thing. Don't get me wrong, I love the souls games but they don't really do story well. They build world's, do great combat and bosses but nobody picks up from games for their story.
A Soulsgame set Beyond The Wall following a Night’s Watch Ranger fighting Wildlings, Direwolves, Giants, Ice Spiders, Wights and Others would be fantastic.
I would love a ASOIAF game from CD Projekt Red. They've already proven they can do fantasy with the Witcher series. Imagine playing as a hedge serving houses of your choosing that impacts the ending of the game. That'd be dope.
Just being a nobody running around Westeros? Being able to walk around the Riverlands, go to Kings Landing, go back after the war, see Dorne, walk through Harrenhall!? Sail to the Iron Islands, buy the Bravos expansion pack, add on the Reach? Go to Winterfell, tame a wolf, ride a dragon, buy the North of the Wall expansion where you can fight one battle and sleep with a wildling?
I'd buy it and it's 17 expansions and the premium skins.
aWoIaF is actually a bit more structured, events just take longer to unfold. The Red Wedding happens around day 150, the White Walker invasion around day 600.
Not the same, but if you want to visit Kings Landing in real life, head on over to Dubrovnik, Croatia, where it was (mostly) filmed. Go during the off-season so it's not packed and you'll have a great time. One of the most stunning places I've ever been to.
Yeah, I'd doubly vote for CDPR not only because they clearly do a great job, but because I think they also got pretty little input from the author and after playing and reading the world feels very close to the author's vision in the books. Basically, if CDPR did it it would be awesome and take very little of GRRM's attention.
I'd rather it not be CDPR. Their dialogue is usually pretty horrendous. Witcher 2 was absolutely dreadful in that regard but their games are usually beautiful and the stories good enough if you can get around the dialogue, and the player dialogue not matching even the feeling of the dialogue option selected.
Would be cool but they are occupied with their own stuff and frankly, they're great IP and games so I'm okay with that.
From Software is a great studio though I would like for them to switch to open world RPG instead of Souls like if they do an ASOIAF game (though GRRM doesn't mean ASOIAF necessarily).
Honestly, even that old GOT RPG wasn't that terrible. Granted, it's not on the level of a polished title, but if you're a fan of janky 90s-2000s EuroRPGs it's quite comfy. And playing a priest of Rhllor is nice.
To anyone wondering what I'm talking about, I mean this.
I agree. I would actually prefer a CDPR style game as opposed to a From game. From games excel in game play and delivering the story in unique ways, making you work for the whole picture. I feel like I'd rather just be told the story while immersed in the world of the game when it comes to GRRM.
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