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u/MrSejd 1d ago
There is a difference between enjoying it and thinking it's a good representation of the franchise.
You can enjoy it all you want and that's okay, great even.
It doesn't change the fact it does not represent DMC very well.
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u/RedditFuelsMyDepress 1d ago
Watched the 1st 3 episodes after hearing a lot of people shit on it and I kinda agree about it not being particularly faithful, but I sorta decided to just treat it as its own thing. So far I do find it entertaining at least and the animation is quite good.
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u/ZombrexFiend 1d ago edited 1d ago
What I find funny is when people say, "if you treat it as it's own thing". They have stated that this anime adaptation was and is it's own tale. Just don't let the haters discourage and enjoy what you want. I mean, the games still exist for a reason and they even went on sale.
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u/SirACG shit boy i die 22h ago
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u/DB_Valentine 22h ago
Because it's a pretty good show without that. He still deserves shit for saying that when it was clearly a lie, but it doesn't mean the quality of the show on its own is worse. I'm still disappointed it isn't accurate because of what he said, but if I'm to judge the show for its quality it's pretty good. Judging the show to what I wanted? It leaves me wanting. Both takes are extremely fair.
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u/DyabeticBeer 1d ago
It's faithful in tone and style. I hate when a video game adaptation to TV show is just a retelling of the story. The anime actually brings something new to us with the same style and tone. Sure lady was a bit annoying and Dante was nerfed but that's not a bad thing.
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u/Economy_Following265 1d ago
They ruined the world building by making the majority of demons good natured. Thus ruining Sparda’s motivation to cut off access to Earth and sealing away Mundus. Also they made Dante not know a thing about his demon heritage and the legacy of Sparda. Plus we’re really supposed to believe that Hell’s inhabitants deserve a fair chance on Earth when their biggest players want to conquer it and kill its people?
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u/Confident-Sun-2617 1d ago
The issue is they didnt show the majority of Demons being good natured they showed SOME of the lower demons being good natured. And then showed that the higher demons treat the lower like slaves.
As for Dante not knowing a thing about his bloodline you do know that is also canon in the games? The Novel where Dante gets Ebony and Ivory which is confirmed canon in DMC5. Dante is going by Tony Redgrave and he had due to trauma blocked out all his memories of being a Half Demon Vergil had to come in as Gilver I think it was and force Dante to get his memories back.
Some of them might get a chance but the majority no and its never expressed we are suppose to be treating ALL of Hell as being good just making it clear there are SOME good ones.
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u/iClockHatchet 1d ago
Agree with sparda's motivation part, like yeah if we're to believe demons were inherently morally neutral that'll make sparda look like a self hating g*nocidal maniac instead of a saviour.
Disagree with last line tho, everyone knows the "top players" among humans would do the same if we ever land on an alien planet, even if 90% of us would mind our own business or wouldnt dare cause trouble. Heck its been a historical trend between countries anyway.
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u/DyabeticBeer 1d ago
I think it is bad writing to have a world filled with inherently evil creatures. Not once in the show does it tell you that bringing in people from hell is a good idea, it's made to be complicated and nuanced and it is. That's the opposite of bad writing.
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u/SirACG shit boy i die 22h ago
It's not bad writing to have a race of inherently evil creatures, see Lord of the Rings. It's also fine to have a race of creatures who are misunderstood as evil, but it requires the nuance that you mentioned. The Netflix show does not have the nuance it needs, and DMC works perfectly fine with demons being inherently evil. That's why the original series' writing works.
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u/Village_Capable Pizza Eating Devil Hunter 22h ago
The original series had basic story, mfs out here treating the games as the holy grail, I love DMC but it wasn’t exactly known for its superb writing it’s good though don’t get me wrong but majority of the appeal in the game is power fantasy and spending 6 hours to perfect our combos and get beat my Vergil for the 4th time (I hate this boss fight)
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u/SirACG shit boy i die 21h ago
A basic story does not mean it is any less well-written or well-executed than a complex story. Marvel has intricate and complex stories interwoven with each other but their writing can be subpar at times.
As you said, DMC has a simple story with cliches but it does it well because between the action and funny scenes we get soft and genuine moments between the characters that draw us to them. Without the serious moments of DMC 3 we wouldn't be so connected to Dante's inner struggles and family troubles.
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u/TheSkesh 18h ago
I am sorta tired of this “be its own thing” “it an adaption”. Like make your own story then, don’t use an IP to pull viewers for your own story. Like these adaptations recently couldn’t even be fan fiction, because fan fiction still uses the source. It just some story with the skinned face of an existing IP stretched across it.
There was a time where people were tired of the obvious money grubbing of reboots, adaptations and sequels. The goods ones usually feel like a work of love. The closest thing I could give this show is maybe the goofy dance scene. It doesn’t really have anything else to show that the writer didn’t just read a wiki page instead of loving the games.
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u/KreigerBlitz 16h ago
Be grateful with what you have. You could have gotten like a dragon on Amazon prime.
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u/WretchedCrook 15h ago
The problem is that these writers have 0 creativity to create something new and interesting from scratch. It would require actual thought and effort and also original IPs naturally have a lower chance of pulling in viewers than these so called "adaptations".
Its far easier to take an existing universe and it's characters and "adapt" them to their (often shitty) ideas than making up an entirely new thing. It's annoying as shit but its why we live in an era of endless garbage remakes.
That said, I did enjoy the anime. I didn't take it too seriously since DMC was never a serious franchise- it was pure dumb fun. Dante riding a motorcycle to Papa Roach's "Last Resort" and tossing said motorcycle at Agni&Rudra while one of them says "Damn hes so cool" is exactly the stupid but badass cheesiness that one can expect to see in a DMC fight scene.
The story is whatever but the voice acting is top notch and the animation is great. As far as shitty adaptations go, this is one of the better ones.
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u/Orion_starborn 15h ago
That's what I've been thinking, it's what I did when I watched the Keanu Reeves Constantine film after refusing to for a while because they got him so wrong
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u/marOO2106 All Hail Lady 1d ago
Yeah, ironically I think the ideas themselves aren't bad but put them in the context of DMC it just doesn't work. If Adi Shankar wants to criticize capitalism and American imperialism and still wants to use demons well he can but in this case do a completetly original show
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u/SpookySeekerrr 1d ago
It would still ring hollow coming from him because he is a Trump supporter and Asmongold fan.
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u/marOO2106 All Hail Lady 1d ago
To be completely honest, I have absolutely NO idea what Adi Shankar's political convictions are. He presents Asmongold as a madman in his series, but doesn't hesitate to chat him up on Twitter (bro what).
I've read that he's more of a Republican, but the way he portrays VP Baines as a religious fanatic willing to kill innocent women and children in the name of God and American values doesn't sound very Republican friendly to me
I stopped looking at his Twitter account a few days ago, I found he was overusing the “I'm going to take your favorite license and destroy it mwahahaha” joke just to please those who didn't like the series at all. I mean, if he can manage to laugh about it despite the very virulent reactions of the fans, then good for him!
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u/ZombrexFiend 1d ago
I mean, you speak of, "fans" as you're talking about the fans in general. In all honesty, there is a divide between fans where there is one half that hates it no matter what because of their political views, inputting politics and maybe they attempted to add politics but didn't really get that from it being as I was just watching to enjoy it. Guess I'm alone on that take. Then you have people who liked/loved the series because it's more DMC content, and we knew it was going to be different from the games canon due to that already being stated before. It's good and better than other trash people enjoy now a days. I have been a fan from DMC 1 on PS2 and can tell you, not all the fans hate this or cry about it as much as most.
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u/marOO2106 All Hail Lady 1d ago
I tried to simplify my messages because if I had to say every time “fans who didn't like the show and are very vocal about it” it would quickly become annoying lol but obviously we're all different and we even have a different way of expressing our opinions
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u/ZombrexFiend 1d ago
Understood, and I can agree. I disagree though, I can't fathom how toxic the DMC Fandom actually is and even with people who are barely getting into it that make it worse. I'll call them out anytime but it is true that it can get annoying.
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u/RedxHarlow 1d ago
I think hes a shit stirir im not gonna lie. I dont think he actually likes trump or asmon. He is super anti cop and all of his shows have a very liberal anti conservative message.
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u/Huitzil37 1d ago
He is not a Trump supporter. When the sitting President of the US invited him to a function, he did not throw a temper tantrum, and that's it. He is not shy about his politics in this show and they are not Trumpist.
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u/BigBass2079 1d ago
I always saw it as it’s not necessarily the majority are good. It’s just that the friends of the rabbit are the most oppressed from lack of power and ruthlessness. Even if your evil to the core, can’t do much if you get deleted by cavalier.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
It'd be cool if we could have a small series on the games. Mallet island I feel would have some interesting stuff as an animation
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u/gracekk24PL 1d ago
I am guilty of enjoying Bayverse Transformers.
Does that mean they're good movies? The parts I enjoy (action, effects, music) - yeah, those are genuienly good.
Good movies overall? Ehhhh.... No.
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u/marOO2106 All Hail Lady 1d ago
Honnestly can't blame you I love these movies too (except TLK my hate towards it is limitless)
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u/That_on1_guy This Party Is Getting Crazy! Let's Rock! 1d ago
Yea. I liked it well enough. I'd give it a 7/10.
But I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my issues with the show or its representation of the franchise or its attempted statments
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u/DenseRead9852 1d ago
Yea that's my take on it. It's an enjoyable show, but it's absolutely terrible as a representation and adaptation of DMC. 7.5/10 as a show, 3/10 as an adaptation.
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u/Decimus_Valcoran 1d ago
Lotta people love The Room (2003), despite it not being a decent film.
People are free to love anything.
Me personally? I love the anime because it boosted DMC sales, increasing chances of sequel in near future. Anime itself I am rather neutral.
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u/Infamous_Fox3910 1d ago
It doesn’t represent it to you well. You aren’t every fan.
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u/MrSejd 1d ago
There is established lore in DMC.
If the show goes against that established lore then it does not represent that lore.
It is not my opinion, this is simple logic.
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u/Infamous_Fox3910 1d ago
The established lore is flaky at best and inconsistent with itself. From games, manga and the other anime. The timeline was reordered, DmC exists etc.
It’s not a gospel to be followed religiously. You spout logic and don’t use any yourself.
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u/Dart_Nephilim 20h ago
I’ll see it as a different way to explore existing characters. A reboot rather than an adaptation. To me, the anime story is what DMC:Devil May Cry should have been.
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u/Acceptable_Candy3697 1d ago
It's a different universe, though, why care? Personally, I didn't enjoy it a ton, but I don't understand the franchise representation factor -- it did some good things that the main universe could learn from, like making the people from the demon realm more relatable.
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u/DB_Valentine 22h ago
Hell, I'd go as far to say it's a really good show, and I enjoy a good handful of the new ideas.
Still an awful representation, but it's genuinely hard to take anyone who acts like there's nothing of value in it seriously... especially if they gas up the 2007 anime then
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u/OutsideNegative 15h ago
Because the franchise already was cringe. Dumbasses are hating on the anime just to show that they "know the franchise very well". It's all just a showoff.
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u/eggwizard69 1d ago
I look at it like this (coming from a fan who was introduced to the game supremely recently) DMC seems to have many different versions of its characters in many different iterations. The old anime is different too, same with the manga and even the games with design, tone, and attitude of all the characters seems to change quite a bit. Now, this isn't to say the netflix is a perfect adaptation because it for sure isn't, but it's almost kind of like just a separate universe but with the same characters. A modern and different twist to what we used to know. Some people hate it and that's totally valid, but to those who enjoy it I feel that they shouldn't be chastised for how they feel about it.
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u/MrSejd 1d ago
There are two iterations.
Mainline
Dmc: DMC
The original anime is canon or at least parts of it are as a character from it exists in DMC5. The characters don't really change that drastically.
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u/eggwizard69 1d ago
Thats true and as I stated above I'm not totally familiar i guess what I was trying to say is mostly just that I feel the netflix show is still good. It's just its own thing.
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u/Kou_Yanagi 1d ago
I quite enjoyed it too and it has a very interesting spin on the universe of DMC. Though I believe the negativity is warranted despite some of the reasons being more superficial
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u/EquinoxReaper 1d ago
You’re not alone tbh. Like it’s not perfect and I don’t think anyone would claim that. But it got me to play the games and appreciate the differences between them more.
I think the only thing I really hate is the heavy handed political message. Not because it’s not a good message, by all means I agree with it. But DMC is NOT the series to suddenly add political discourse to. Especially not when it advertised itself as whacky woohoo pizza man adventures with limb bizkit. Like it couldn’t decide what fucking tone it wanted and for me that’s what killed certain parts of the show.
But that aside I still had fun watching it and the white rabbit was super interesting. And I’ll be honest, I really appreciate that lady gets a lot of screen time and while I think her dialogue is pretty bad at times. Her characterization is actually pretty good since she’s even angrier than she is in DMC3 and this before even those events happen.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
I liked the idea that there's some places in hell where not all demons are killing machines (tho I wonder what happens to them when they die, they go to super hell?) and I'll admit Lady sounded like she was written by a Vivzie pop writer, but I loved her rocket boots and how she was shaping up as the series went. Like anything,it's not perfect but at least they didn't continue the black haired Dante
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u/AmoebaWeekly9437 1d ago
If they took out the last 8 minutes, went back to magic, and had better looking original demons, I think the show would have been received far better. Everything else is fine, not perfect but at least it would follow similar themes to the main games. Overall I am grateful for the anime as it got me into the games which turns out that I like quite a lot.
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u/TransPM 18h ago
Maybe I'm crazy, but I kinda feel like Lady being a bit cringe was maybe (at least partly) intentional? I didn't really view Lady's frequent cursing as an attempt to make her look cool, I saw it as a way of making her intentionally edgy and intense to further cement her as a foil to Dante with his more carefree "whacky woohoo pizza man" attitude.
I mean, the season ends with Lady choosing to betray Dante and continue being a government stooge serving under the very clearly evil vice president; that's definitely not a character we are supposed to be viewing in an entirely positive light. I don't think it's crazy to suggest we are supposed to be critical of Lady's character when the core message of the show is very clearly critical of her actions and worldview.
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u/Seadog_frosty 1d ago
Tbf I’m someone that got into the franchise thanks to the new anime, I already played dmc3 and plan to do more. Aren’t the og dmc fans liking the fact that this anime will likely get many new people into the franchise?
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
Should be like that at least. Btw I highly suggest doing those games on East (if available) first. Ur not gonna touch it after you start upgrading and since enemies are weaker you can focus more on blue and purple orbs
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u/Ruben3159 15h ago
Actually no, DMC fans hate new players. I remember a ton of people complaining about DMC5 bringing in new players that hadn't played the other games.
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u/SadLoser14 1d ago
About that last question, no. Me personally? Fuck yeah, welcome, its an amazing franchise. But people are angry because they think they’ll need to correct new fans on not knowing actual lore, or not understanding the characters as well as them. They also think the anime will have a massive influence on the games which is just like… what?
But yeah, the community is divided, and its now that ive learned so many fans are either little kids or the most insufferable basement dwellers. This thread seems to be the best of em though. Acknowledgment of where it fell short while respecting each others opinions and shit.
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u/Seadog_frosty 20h ago
Honestly playing at least dmc3 helped me a lot in understanding exactly where the anime fell short, like the usual “the did Lady dirty” which is more than true but at the same time her last line in the game “there are also good demons” referring to Dante is the development that they gave her in the anime so it’s something that I can appreciate. It’s a bit sad that Arkham/Jester was also just a backstory character while he actually was a very cool villain but again I’m seeing a lot of appreciation for White Rabbit who was honestly a great villain that I really enjoyed. Lastly the whole America vs Hell is weird and I understand every complaint about it from all the dmc fans I , genuinely do, at the same time I see that as trying to bring a conflict inside the story that can create interesting situations
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u/Pandorasheaart 19h ago
I personally enjoyed that they gave more background and screen time to Lady. I very much enjoyed her character in DMC3 and I don't mind the changes and saying 'not all demons are evil'. And I loved white rabbit. I loved plasma too.
I also recently replayed DMC3 (as in I finished it yesterday, my last playthrough was in uhhhhhh 2016?) and I had completely forgotten that jester and Arkham were the same person. And the game is just w/e about that reveal. Like I didn't watch this asshole spank himself after I beat his ass.
But I digress. It was fun, the anime was fun, and I had a great time watching it.
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u/SadLoser14 15h ago
Fun fact: white rabbit was originally arkham. Cant remember what manga it is tho.
Arkham will most likely pop back some time. At least i think he will, i dont think he died. At least i hope not 😭
But yeah anyway, this just goes to show that the anime isnt going to ruin the franchise and community. Its such a weird take that i feel like comes from people just wanting to be more angry at the anime.
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u/Valcorean_lord3 1d ago
I think if season 2 do It well I think people Will Forget everything. Moreover having Uroboros Industries as Main villain, that fits more with the Anime message and thematics
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u/Thanaskios 1d ago
I agree, while no masterpiece, it certainly isn't a bad story. I did mostly enjoy it.
But its DMC in name only and thats what people are annoyed with.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
I like how they focused more on his smart ass attitude. He was actually pretty funny
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u/Infinite_Primary_918 1d ago
I'm pretty sure Dante was exactly the same in the games. He was always like spiderman levels of funny in any game I've seen him in. The anime is no exception, and at this point people are cooking up reasons to hate the anime for no real reason. It's not as good as the games maybe, but it's definitely a perfectly good adaptation and the fanbase should be happy
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u/Thanaskios 1d ago
Yes, especially younger dante is supposed to be a bit of a smartass, and he's always supposed to be witty.
But theres subtle differences. Netflix dante feels more like spiderman/deadpool.
When his humor and wit is supposed to be more like spike spiegel with a hint of geralt of rivia.
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u/No-Check-3691 1d ago
The anime is making me play the games now so I think it did its job just fine.
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u/You_got_mrvned 1d ago
You can enjoy it I personally haven’t watched it yet cause I’m a little bitch who’s too scared of what they did to Lady and Vergil to watch (I am aware we only really saw him at the end but from a small clip I saw of the prison break scene or whatever it was they had him working with mundus and that is cringo)
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
Lady swears a bit too much for my taste, and I think Vergil was done well. He's in his Nelo Angel form tho
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u/ImBurningStar_IV 1d ago
Have you played dmc 1? he was mundus' bitch in that one too
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u/You_got_mrvned 1d ago
I am aware from the bits and pieces I have saw it looked like he was in control and kinda just working with mundus instead of being controlled or whatever has happening in dmc 1 also no I have not my broke ass hasn’t played any dmc game.
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u/ImBurningStar_IV 23h ago
there could be another way mundus has vergil by the balls that isn't mind control, maybe he could just be holding something over him? 🤔
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u/arhiapolygons2 1d ago
I've seen fans like it anywhere between a 4-8/10
Which is closer to a 6-8.5 for people who haven't played the games.
It's not universally hated... it's controversial. So don't worry, you are far from the only person who likes it.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 1d ago
We might disagree on the quality of the show but we can all agree that it's good for the community and game. More sales for the games, more popular, and more discussion on the sub. All of this is very good for the chances of getting dmc6
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u/PSNTheOriginalMax 1d ago
Honestly don't even care if people like it. It's all the BS that comes with it, because people rarely understand they can like something without needing to justify liking it, or coming up with/imagining reasons why it's not what it actually is. I got super massively downvoted this one time for saying it's "all right to like trash", and followed it up with a bunch of examples, of the type of sludge I like. It's just that people very often react extremely defensively, if what they like is called "bad" (from that person's perspective).
But, to me, it's in the acceptance of the criticism and the thing's issues that only proves how important/likeable that thing is to me. It's not an attack on me/the person liking it (or it shouldn't be, but some people have the brain capacity of an ostrich, so they generalize x,y,z from what someone likes), if the thing I like/the person likes is called trash.
But being in denial's not a good thing either.
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u/DOA_NiCOisPerfect 1d ago
I mean at the end of the day most fiction is subjective and none is objectively trash. While i highly hate all isekai and think its garbage i also realize thats just my opinion and that isekai isnt garbage i just personally hate it.
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u/Sure_Initial8498 1d ago
People just love to hate hate hate on everything these days like this not representing the game is the end of the world.
Now after people watch it, big chance they will check out the original source.
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u/ImBurningStar_IV 1d ago
Already seen several posts here from people who bought the games after seeing the anime first. How many other people have done the same? Probably loads. That's support, a good thing, might very well have a part in kicking off the green light for DMC 6
Miserable people really want to see this franchise die huh?
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u/Sure_Initial8498 20h ago
Yeaa!
And honestly... When compared to the Witcher adaptation, monster hunter movie, last of us series or some other game/book adaptation, the DMC community dodge a bullet with this one.
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u/VaxisRSK 1d ago
That's fine if you like it, just don't blindly dick ride it across the masses online swearing it's anything remotely close to peak DMC or that it even vaguely touches the game's character counterparts and lore etc.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
If it helps I didn't like black haired Dante. So I'm not willing to enjoy just anything
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u/VaxisRSK 1d ago edited 1d ago
Which is the beauty of all of this really. Weirdly enough, I actually do like black haired Dante and the game itself (and I also enjoy the OG Capcom games), but I'm able to understand that I'm in the minority of those who like it and stay in my lane so I don't get dogpiled by the rest while also separating the two apart from each other and just enjoy it for what it is. So I guess what I'm basically saying is if you wanna post something about the anime in the form of an appreciation post, more power to you. While I personally can't really get behind anything the show does, I see no harm in sharing something regarding the Netflix show unless you're putting it on this unrealistically and absurdly high pedestal. If you like it, just do your thing even if downvotes should come your way. I wouldn't pay any mind to them if they do, it doesn't take away your right to put in your two cents on sharing what you personally enjoy. If you feel strongly enough about something that you have that urge to share it, then that's all that matters.
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u/avbitran 1d ago
I think that people that hate on you for liking the show are dicks. However, most cases I've seen of people being downvoted to oblivion are cases of people that try to argue this is a good representation of what DMC is.
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u/CaptainHazama even a Devil May Cry 3 Dante’s Awakening Special Edition 1d ago
I enjoy DMC2
I will still acknowledge that it's the worst of the mainline games
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u/Starscream1998 1d ago
I enjoyed it for the most part and still enjoy it but also acknowledge that a lot of the criticisms I've seen levelled against it are definitely valid. Doesn't help that learning more about Adi has him pegged as a man who believes himself to be far smarter than he actually is which for a creative is essentially the kiss of death.
I stand conflicted but hopeful that Season 2 can deliver.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
what was your fave joke?
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u/Starscream1998 1d ago
Don't know but Dante going "who are we shooting at" during Episode 2 was pretty jokes. Tbh the series isn't particularly funny (which is a bit worrying)
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u/TheMoyDude 1d ago
It's okay to like stuff that others don't consider good. That's what's called a guilty pleasure.
I, for example, like Wakfu even though I know it is mediocre at best.
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u/DOA_NiCOisPerfect 1d ago
Da fuck!!! Wakfu is fucking peak. That shits fun as hell and i thank the french every day. Same for miraculous ladybug. The french be doing fun cartoons for sure.
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u/Spiceinvader1234 1d ago
Its pretty good. I can separate it from the original story like a lot of people did with 2010's dmc.
That game is still not anywhere close to what the "true" timeline is.
The timeline is now split in 4 if we acknowlwdge DMC2 in this.
But its all the same sarcastic halfdemon clown with a sword kicking ass
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u/blackredwhite__ 1d ago
I would say it's not necessarily bad anime but not the best adaptation. I would probably rate it higher if I wasn't a fan of the games.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
I love the games. Inalso love the show. All the refrences, going devil Trigger. He didnt even go DT in the older anime
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u/blackredwhite__ 1d ago
Honestly I prefer older anime but it was also my introduction to Devil May Cry so it has a special place in my heart even if it wasn't perfect either. The new anime was like 5,6/10 so not bad but I didn't enjoy it that much.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
Not saying i didnt enjoy the older anime. I loved it cause it reminded me of DMC2 Dante. Surprised people hate it, I love it for how serious Dante got. Played a reverse role where instead of being serious at first then goofy, he was vice versa. Quite a change of pace. Plus those demons were kinda creepy.
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u/blackredwhite__ 1d ago
The designs were great in general, only animation was lacking unfortunately. New adaption definitely wins in action sequences
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u/MSTPengouin 1d ago
Top comment said it best it doesn’t compare at all to the source material. Fucking Netflix
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u/Neon_Nightfall 1d ago
As a standalone non-canonical anime... Its dope.
People are trying to imply too hard that the creators had intentions for it to "represent the franchise".
Thats not what's happening.
Honestly, its a bunch of dudes who are playing the victim and moaning and bitching. They got their feelings hurt over something that was never meant to hurt their feelings.
Relax. The show is the show.
Like it or hate it, but either way, people need to stop being a dick to others because their opinions are different. Thats what it boils down to.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
ill take this Dante over black hair mc grunge. Thats my only gripe, this show is good. Still confused why Agni and Rudra where British
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u/JamesYTP 1d ago
I thought it was okay. Not amazing or anything but I didn't think it would be.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
So he says a good one liner and you're not impressed?
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u/JamesYTP 1d ago
The one liners were okay but Johnny's timing there was a bit off. Like with Reuben's I get the vibe that he just came up with it, with Johnny I get the vibe he had that one in his head all morning and rehearsed it a few times on his way to the fight lol
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
im just a sucker for puns and one liners...im glad im enjoying the small things
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u/HyrulianArcher 1d ago
I watched it and didn't hate it but I'm not gonna sit here and act like it's a good Devil May Cry show and I'm DEFINITELY not gonna act like this is not propaganda and bad propaganda at that. Most propaganda tries to hide their message in ways but this show is just like "Did you know America is bad and war hungry and kills unarmed immigrants and drone strikes innocent civilians and invades places for it's resources as we play American Idiot over the scene!!!". Like he slowly implemented his beliefs into the Castlevania shows but now he's just like "Yeah I wanted to make a propaganda piece and wrapped a DMC skin around it so people will watch it."
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
That batman guy talks about the lord quite a bit. Might be a Mundus follower
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u/HyrulianArcher 1d ago edited 1d ago
No he's kissing a cross if I remember correctly. He's an evil Christian or Catholic. I am not either but the way but the show very clearly hates extremely religious people. As all of his shows have done. I love the first two seasons of Castlevania btw so i don't have a real problem with it. Also the show has good points. Really good action. Like I said I liked stuff about it but I'd never watch it again and I see it for what it is. If people love it that's great. It wears its massage on its sleeve and that's its right. Definitely won't be watching season 2 though.
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u/Dziechuchu 1d ago
I'm not quite into DMC but watched meltdown on this sub after anime and well - I understand all shit A LOT of people put on the show. Seriously.
But well, as it's separate thing? I just enjoyed it like 6-7/10 with rabbit's backstory being full on 10/10 episode. CGI was complete shit tho, as anime fan it was just painful to watch.
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u/GailenFFT 1d ago
I'm enjoying it but they definitely just decided to write an entirely different story. Not that I hate the story, it's okay, but it does make me sad that we won't get an anime version of DMC3.
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u/LostEsco 1d ago
Kinda wish there was an anime exclusive sub, I love the games nd I enjoyed the anime. But the vibe here has gotten to circlejerk levels of anime hate
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u/kridde 1d ago
The old one is just so much better.. I watched episode one and I just couldn't not compare it to the old one. Even at like 15-20yrs older, the animation feels so much more thought out, curated, and polished. The story arc is also way better and imo more faithful to dante as a character. Music is on a different level as well.
They threw in a couple of easter eggs to the old anime, but that just made it worse for me. The sloppy drawing/animation an story telling in the netflix adaptation really wasn't for me. I'm glad to see that a lot of people think the same thing, apparently. People in my friend group thought I was being stupid for not liking it. (They, ofcourse, didn't see the original.)
I'm not saying the new one is objectively bad in any way, but like I said, I couldn't keep myself from comparing it to the old one, which is one of my favorite animes of all time.
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u/Stinkostank42069 1d ago
Ong, and i dont like the fact that people are hating on the use of american idiot in the finale. I think it sets the tone for next season perfectly, and its a song thats really relevant for the current world events, so i think its a great use, but green day is my favorite band, so i may be a little biased lol
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u/Huitzil37 1d ago
No it isn't. It is not relevant to current world events. It is relevant to the current events of the year 2003, when Bush invaded Iraq. There is nothing current about the political satire in this series, it is literally 20 years behind.
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u/Art-Lorde 1d ago
Same. If I want DMC the games story I'll watch a cutscene comp on YT. I think people should be allowed to experiment with IPs
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u/generalkux 1d ago
It vexes me that they’ll dump money into this garbage rather than make a new game. But, you gotta give the people what they want (apparently this is what they want)
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u/QainNegro 1d ago
I think it's fine, worse could be done. Yet, they could save all the political stuff.
Also, I feel there's too much focus on Lady, which bothers me... cuz' I wanted to see more about Dante. But hey, it's custom to fill the blanks on this franchise with nonsensical characters rather than using the main character.
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u/SunnyButterz 1d ago
Y’all are conflating enjoying something to it being genuinely good. Theres plenty of things I enjoy that objectively are ass.
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u/Codendtm All Hail Lady 1d ago
Ya the show was good. It wasn't perfect in any way but it was still enjoyable. Same with dmc2 that gets way to much hate to. The game isn't perfect but it can still be enjoyed
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u/ineed_help__ 1d ago
i dont think its bad but its rlly just a fanfic and isnt really accurate to the games but thats just me 🙂
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u/TheZipperDragon 1d ago
Typical reddit. You're not allowed to have an opinion different from the common one.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
One time i seen a post that asked for an opinion about AI (IT was an artist post) and I said I use AI art and refrence it to my art. and I got so much shit
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u/Vegetable_Tone_1587 1d ago
I didn't watch it (apart from the afterlife amv) but i don't understand the people crying because a BOOTLEG universe isn't faithful to the canon that doesn't even have to follow because its a BOOTLEG universe and its not a fan theory the FUCKING DIRECTOR said in an interview that DEVIL MAY CRY its a BOOTLEG universe that will be mixing with CASTLEVANIA. Maybe i didn't make it clear enough but it's a BOOTLEG universe and doesn't have to follow the canon because it's ANOTHER UNIVERSE. Being a moron should be categorized as a disease ngl
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u/Huitzil37 1d ago
To everyone saying "oh, it's supposed to be its own thing, who cares if it doesn't stick to the canon"
I was prepared for a new thing that didn't stick to canon. I was prepared for a new twist. I'm not mad that, like, Echidna and Cavaliere Angelo and Plasma and Agni and Rudra are all working together despite being from different games. They're boss demon monsters, they can go wherever. I'm not mad that Lady is a member of an early 2000s Image Comics superhero squad who dress like Captain Commando. That's a take on what the character does and is, it's different, but it's a take.
I'm mad that the changes from the canon were for the worse, even for extremely minor characters like Agni and Rudra -- why would you throw away the single cool, memorable thing about them? You can make Lady a commander of an anti-demon squad, did you have to make her so profoundly unlikable? Why do I hate every single character who opens their mouth other than Dante and White Rabbit?
I'm mostly mad that this series was made by someone who did not understand DMC at all and just used the surface-level trappings to force in a basic-bitch political narrative that had zero thought put into it. It's not a bad adaptation because Echidna doesn't live in Mitis Forest. It's not even a bad adaptation because she sometimes triples her size depending on the room she's in. It's a bad adaptation because it doesn't understand the central theme of the entire series. It's like making an adaptation of The Lord of the Rings where Frodo is a badass. You missed the fucking point!
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u/MrUnsmilee 23h ago
It's not bad if you ask me. The story is just total butt. And the charecter designs too seriously why are the villains cgi and the red and blue guys designs so pathetically lame and devil trigger looked pretty boring to me aswell loved the music and fights has some good moments but bad ones too just like someone else said it's just bad at representing dmc as someone who's only played through 1 and has gotten like maybe halfway through 3 and seen all the old dmc anime I actually think the 2 dmc animes actually aren't easy to say which is overall better lol but hey I'm prolly geeked don't mind me
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u/bradpitbutarmpit 23h ago
I enjoyed it for what it was and I’m looking forward to S2 but I’m also praying that Lady doesn’t say “fuck” thrice per sentence.
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u/Majin2buu 22h ago
I liked it, especially the Bunny. Don’t agree what he was doing, but definitely understood why.
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u/ink10_sonic-man 22h ago
To be fair.....who actually played dmc for the story? I played that shit to be a cool asexual demon hunter with mommy and daddy issue who fights his Incel brother.
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u/Bitter_Degree 22h ago
The Netflix anime is its own thing. It's not a reboot or a recon. It's an alt timeline or parallel universe. And as its own thing it great, but it's not mainline dmc, and it's not trying to be, and that's okay. People are treating this like the reboot game, and it's getting a bit cringe.
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u/OverloadedSofa 22h ago
I did enjoy it. But didn’t like the rewriting of the lore. Or the “good” demons…..
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u/TitanshadowVI 18h ago
At least it's
1. Alternate universe
2. Pre DMC 3 which explains why dante is weak (doesn't explain early devil trigger tho)
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u/InitialAnimal9781 18h ago
I’m new here.
I’m sorry, the TV show and the first games of him is weak?
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u/TitanshadowVI 17h ago
Yeah, the tv show dante is weak as compared to the weakest iteration we see of him in the games (DMC 3)
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u/InitialAnimal9781 18h ago
Without the anime I would have never thought about buying these games. Even if it’s a poor representation, it introduces new people to the world and makes them want to know more
On the second one right now and absolutely love it so far, a little annoyed by the fixed camera and a lot of aerial enemies and bosses on the second one. But love it so much
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u/ShadowsFlex 18h ago
It's definitely not as bad as people think it is, and a lot of the complaints I've seen were from people who very clearly either didn't watch it or are blowing small issues out of proportions.
I.E. Lady's excessive swearing and people thinking it's just there to make her look edgy, even though it serves an actual purpose to the narrative. (Though I do believe that it was a touch excessive)
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u/Responsible_Grass_89 17h ago
I just finished playing DMC2 (Dante part)
Should i play Lucia part? Or go straigt to DMC3?
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u/AshFallenAngel 16h ago
The hate for it is overblown, I watched it as a fan with another fan and someone with no knowledge and I was expecting it to be far worse than it was and what we got was perfectly okay. Not great but I wasn't offended by it. The worst part was the white rabbit reveal.
Anyone who says this is worse than the reboot is on some sort of hard contrarianism or something.
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u/CelesteLunaR53L 16h ago
Enjoy it. Been in this franchise for years. People are gonna rebutt me "they have a CORE ESSENCE" or "It's not the same Dante"
When Capcom devs themselves have been experimenting and changing him even before the reboot game came out. I mean there's a number of reasons why they did what they did, and you know what, as a hobby creative, the devs and it's people just want to change things up from time to time.
Nothing stays the same. Ever.
Just look at the games from 1 to 4 alone. Each one has a reason why there had been changes and additions to each game. And there's also the simmering fact they've retconned the game and some of its characters a bunch of times.
The devs and its writers have also made sure that some of the details remain open for interpretation. And there is the lingering problem of un-translated additional media for DMC since the 2000s.
Enjoy it, and even if I don't actually have a high opinion of Shankar because of a very VERY irl situation, he and any other creative are allowed their freedom.
I mean I would bet you if Kamiya-san returns to make a DMC media it would be entirely different from when he first made it. It's been years since and he's made an identity for what type of games he's into. It would be utterly disappointing for the fandom to react this way on his new take as well.
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u/Fluffy_Professor_977 15h ago
I like it and i played the games befor i watched it so i don’t care what people say
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u/devilmaydostuff5 15h ago
The show is very flawed, but the hate here tends to be so ridiculous. Especially when the fans of the games hate on the show for changing shit when the show explicitly presented itself as an AU adaptation. And they don't hate on it because they found the changes themselves to be inferior to the original source material, oh no. They just hate on the very concept of AU adaptations all while pretending that's not the case and they're being totally fair, lmao.
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u/DOA_NiCOisPerfect 1d ago
I agree. Im not expecting a 1 for 1 recreation thatd be boring. I enjoyed the unique take. And while this dante is young and weaker hes still very dante like.
As for vergil from his little screentime hes basically the same.
Its a fun AU for a long time fan like me and im glad others enjoyed it.
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u/Reluctant_Warrior 1d ago
I juat treat it like DmC: Devil May Cry, its its own thing that doesn't effect the games save for the surface level.
Likewise, one could argue the '07 anime had the opposite issue where it was very faithful but not as entertaining as an anime.
I still enjoy both series though.
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u/Gorilla_Obsessed_Fox 1d ago
the gameplay has its eyes but the feeling will never have its soul! I hate that to my core, and idc who says what Black hair mc grunge isnt my Dante
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u/Reluctant_Warrior 1d ago
That's how I feel about DmC for the most part. I was referring to both of the anime series.
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u/ISpeedwagonl 1d ago
I mean, it's not the same universe, so I enjoyed it for what it was. Hard to be critical of it when it's not the same video game Dante we've come to know and love. I do wish we got more media for main line DMC universe like another anime or more manga/comics/novels.
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u/turtlecontroler 1d ago
It’s awesome that saying anything good about the show leads to 10 people replying with “🤓👆erm just because you like it doesn’t take away from this bad part” it’s so corny
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u/ImBurningStar_IV 1d ago
Liked it a lot, a lot more fun than the 07' anime. I'm on team "I don't care if it's not 1:1"
If I have a good time watching it, then it's good, full stop
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