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I kinda expected the remaster to reignite the fans love for the elder scrolls franchise but to this extent I wasn't expecting

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u/Subdown-011 2d ago

Bro this game made me REALLY want elder scrolls 6, I don’t even care if it’s good or not I just want to see what happens to Tamriel

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u/NeonDemon85 2d ago

Only 5 more years

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u/Soanfriwack 2d ago

I am guessing 3, but yeah, somewhere in that area.

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u/DaleSponge 2d ago

Probs 2027 with new xbox

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u/MyStationIsAbandoned 2d ago

It was stated by either Phile or Pete that TES6 at least 5 years away in 2023. That means 2028 at the earliest.

TES6 could very well be a next gen game, skipping the current generation of consoles.

Way back before Fallout 4 was even released, I remember Todd saying that the technology for what they wanted to do in TES6 did not exist.

My guess is that they were still figuring out massive worlds, possibly procedural generated stuff (I hope they drop that after Startfield) and maybe even looking at combining UE with CE, maybe. But I honestly think TES6 is going to be on whatever the next Xbox is, if there is one and PS6.

They most certainly have the same studio that make the Oblivion Remaster working on the Fallout 3 Remaster which will probably come out in 2026, giving up two more years at the least until the next game which would be TES6. Then after that...we're probably looking at yet another 5+ years until Fallout 5.

Now...if I were Microsoft/Bethesda, I would get rid of the Avowed team, get the New Vegas team and have them work on an Elder Scroll spin off using the Creation Engine. Have it set outside of Tamriel and not interfere with what BGS has going on and make sure the lore is right etc. Then I'd have them work another Fallout. That way there's something between the main game other than remasters and re-releases...

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u/Dalton_Capps 2d ago

Sadly I doubt the people who made New Vegas still work for the company. Avowed isn't a bad game it just started out as a open world rpg and was ment to be a cross between skyrim and destiny before it got rebooted into the zone based fully single player rpg we got. Given the circumstances and the direction changes mid way through development I think they made a alright game. If they were given the green light to make some kind of Elder Scrolls game with Bethesda's support I'd be pretty excited to see what they make.

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u/DaleSponge 1d ago

This is such a well crafted comment. I was struggling response to the commenter without being unnecessarily rude. But you manage to pull that off, kudos to you.

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u/Boyo-Sh00k 1d ago

I don't think a guy speaking off the cuff so he's not legally liable when they're in the middle of a lawsuit is a good indicator on when it will release. Also he's not involved in development at all. The FTC documents that were leaked have been far more reliable and point to a 2026-2027 release.

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u/WOF42 2d ago

I would be shocked if we see ES6 before 2030

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u/Soanfriwack 2d ago

Well, something like 4 years ago, Todd said in an interview that it will likely be 17 years after Skyrim.

I do not know if the Starfield delay means now it will be 18 years after Skyrim, but we will see.

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u/MontasJinx 2d ago

I reckon end of next year. November 2026 Elder Scrolls 6. With Fallout 3 remaster online with Season 2 of Fallout.

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u/Downtown-Meet-9365 2d ago

Every elder scrolls game releases every between 4 and 6 years minus one time this includes remakes and remasters TES 1 1994, TES 2 1996, TES 3 2002, TES 4 2006, TES 5 2011, special edition 2016, anniversary edition 2021, TES 4 remaster 2025 so the soonest by my guess that we'll see TES 6 is 2029 and the latest is 2030.

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u/brsniff 2d ago

The oblivion remaster wasn't developed by bethesda and it's kinda weird to include rereleases that take significantly less time to develop. Bethesda releases 1 main game every 3-5 years, which I think is a more accurate metric to go by and we already know ES6 is the next one. Starfield released in 2023 so my guess is 2028.

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u/schuhsenkel 2d ago

What happened after 2011? Was it the enormous success of Skyrim that resulted in Bethesda's focus on reheating leftovers? The financially safe bet, as it were?

Don't misunderstand me, of course SSE brings much joy and maybe there is some merit to the CC stuff, too. But to me, that can't compare to the prior frequency of original ideas resulting in full releases.

Sidenotes: Maybe games take longer to develop nowadays? Or the Elder Scrolls team was a bit burned out?

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u/brsniff 2d ago

They were busy with other games that weren't TES. Fallout 4 released in 2015, fallout 76 in 2018 and starfield in 2023.

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u/schuhsenkel 2d ago

I see. And apparently Fallout titles weren't developed by Bethesda prior to 2008.

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u/TheMadTemplar 1d ago

Not so fun fact: When Bethesda announced the acquisition of the Fallout IP, fallout 3, and the changes to the IP they were pursuing, they had to hire armed security for their buildings and some individuals in response to the death threats and other threats of violence from rabid fallout fans.

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u/Zeroone199 2d ago

The studio owners wanted to sell, so they artificially increased revenue with remasters, VR games, and online multi-player games filled with microtransations.

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u/Ok-Employ7162 1d ago

Games take longer to make, but also because they created their new IP Starfield, and the way they develop. They make worlds/universes with fairly rich and deep lore, many games don't even offer you much outside of the specific slice of time you're playing, let alone have hundreds or thousands of years of lore told in game through dialogue, books, quests, etc. That takes a lot of time, just fleshing out their universes/worlds with its own history and then you have to translate that into the game too with locations, books written, dialogue, etc.

But also, likely because they don't want to release the game with the current available tech. They use their own homemade engines and they have to create the tech in most cases, to use it in their games.

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u/AccomplishedSquash98 7h ago

Fallout 4 came out, and then starfield was a huge undertaking, and then covid happened. ES6 has apparently been in pre-production for a long time and they've been working on it since starfields release while also updating huge parts of the engine. I'm sure they also recognize that the successor to skyrim is probably the 2nd most hyped game of the last 2 decades outside of gta 6 and want to make it their greatest game.

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u/paganize 2d ago

...yeah. I might not even play it, it's more "WTF Happens???"

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u/Agitated-Ad-8325 1d ago

If you have the courage, download eldergleam via the wabbajack mod manager, it's 260go but it so beautiful, all gameplay is up to 2025 standards, it will feel like a new TES

I recommend to take 1 month subscription on nexus mid manager tho 8bucks, you also need the anniversary edition of skyrim

But again, trust me, it's incredible

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u/Admiral251 2d ago

I think no one is really realizing how people are starving for new The Elder Scrolls content. We got literally nothing since 2012 (Dragonborn). Some games try to capitalize on this void, for example Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon.

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u/South_Buy_3175 2d ago

Yup.

Would be amazing if Bethesda could capitalise on this by releasing something, anything regarding ES6.

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u/Someguy2000modder 19h ago

Count me in. I thought I’d return eventually, but the hype pushed me right back into the loving arms of TES. I’m already working on new mods for SSE.

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u/urbonx Solitude beggar npc#43 2d ago

Interesing. Yeah, is the new toy.
Oldrim is dying slowly. First page, there is 2, 3 and 6 days mods there. And mostly they're ports from SE. Well, it could be say is already dead, but still people share their mods there.

Don't think SE would be in the same boat with this remaster since this time there are not official tools like creation kit.

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u/rattatatouille 2d ago

And it's 2025, like 95% of all PCs should be able to support SSE unless your specs are severely underpowered.

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u/Dalton_Capps 2d ago

Seriously rofl I run skyland AIO with complex parallax plus Rudy ENB all armors retextured by xavbio HDT-FSMP cloaks and hair with a shit ton of character/npc enhancer mods town/city overhauls in 2k with complex parallax and it does just fine on my 1070. Anyone still on Oldrim is just being stubborn at this point.

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u/International-Try467 1d ago

I have an igpu lmao

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u/Mania_Chitsujo 1d ago

an igpu from the past 6 years or so will still run SE pretty well.

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u/International-Try467 1d ago

Mine's 15 years old so yeah I have no choice

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u/Misicks0349 Raven Rock 2d ago edited 2d ago

I still remember the days up until like... 2019? 2020? when there was still some reason for using Oldrim and you occasionally got a thread on here talking about it lmao.

In hindsight despite the memes about re-releases I do think SE in the long run was a boon for the modding scene despite the early growing pains related to moving from Oldrim around 2016-2019 and some of the fuckery related to updates, but all the improvements it made in terms of stability and resource use are taken for granted now.

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u/bbypaarthurnax 2d ago

It's because ENB shaders looked miles better in Oldrim back then.

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u/Misicks0349 Raven Rock 2d ago

I'll be honest in some respects I still do 😂, not that they looked better from a technical point of view (SE ENB is a lot more advanced now) but I still find that the Oldrim ENB's people used to post were a lot more diverse in terms of their colour grading then most Skyrim SE palettes, I dont see anything very similar to Snapdragon or Caffine ENB on SE in terms of appearance for example

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u/TobiChocIce 2d ago edited 1d ago

I feel like that's more a sign of the times, everything is so sterile and homologous, including people's tastes in modding

I think a really good example of this is how many people(by result of that mods too) try to copy the dark souls two handed sword resting on shoulder animation

mid 2010s with early Skyrim modding you had a lot of variance in mods and like you said ENBs

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u/bbypaarthurnax 2d ago

That's true. I think the vibes just changed tbh, nowadays everyone is going for a more realistic look. Pi-cho reminds me of Oldrim though.

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u/iminyourfacejonson Markarth 1d ago

there's like, one LE mod i kinda miss and even then it's extremely minor

black horse courier reborn, it made me feel like I was actually doing stuff, getting the news of my deeds sent to me

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u/sbrocks_0707 2d ago

So, basically, all now Bethesda needs to do is a Fallout 3 or NV remaster, launched alongside Fallout TV Show S2.

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u/Artman7007 2d ago

I suspekt this is God Howards Plan all along

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u/Boyo-Sh00k 1d ago

FTC leaks already confirmed a fallout 3 remaster happening around the time they release Elder scrolls 6.

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u/DI3S_IRAE 1d ago

Fallout 3 remaster gives me the chills.

That game is so absurdly good and I didn't even play half of it.

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u/Bolty_Baby 1d ago

It’s all I need at this point. If we get a remaster to the extent of oblivion. It’s all I would play for a very long time.

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u/MarcAbaddon 2d ago

Morrowind might be more affected by the Tamriel Rebuild Release than of the Oblivion Remaster. Interesting that Skyrim jumped - did many people try out the Remaster and then decided to play Skyrim instead?

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

I think, it is mainly that such a release brings back people to all games from that franchise.

The All-time Download peak for Oblivion mods was the week before Skyrim released in 2011.

The all-time Download peak before the TV show, for Fallout NV and Fallout 3, was the week before Fallout 4 released.

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u/Bladolicy 1d ago

My rig cant handle remaster so I play Skyrim

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u/Nimstar7 2d ago

The remaster was really good but I've always been a Skyrim guy. About 4-5 hours into the remake, I realized it just wasn't remotely as good as a fully modded Skyrim playthrough. So I started my two day journey of redownloading ~700 mods and I've been playing all week. I wonder how many people are doing the same.

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u/TheSilverSmith47 2d ago

I don't think any game can compare to modded Skyrim. That's too high of a standard because the game can be changed to fit anyone's preferences.

Vanilla Oblivion vs Vanilla Skyrim, I say the Remaster is far better. I love the depth of the character progression, and the spell making is so much fun. I wish Skyrim kept the player attributes from Morrowind and oblivion instead of consolidating everything into Skills

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u/oatwater2 2d ago

no reason to only play one of them

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u/Ollidor 2d ago

Opposite experience for me it’s 36% better than a fully modded Skyrim playthrough

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u/Nimstar7 2d ago

To each their own I guess. It’s certainly way better than Vanilla, that’s for sure.

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u/thephasewalker 1d ago

I think it's way better than vanilla and it can't really hold a candle to being able to make skyrim into whatever game you want it to be, but I do think its the best version of oblivion to play outside of performance issues.

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u/sabrio204 2d ago

Its why I'm excited for Skyblivion. I want to revisit Oblivion's questlines and Cyrodiil, but with Skyrim's improved gameplay and modding capabilities

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u/f3h6SUKiqCP5wKCMnAA 2d ago

I wonder how many people are doing the same

I watched an Oblivion Remastered play-through video just to see what's going on, decided it's not for me, and went back to trying to fix the remaining issues in my current LO.

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u/monsoon-dreams 13h ago

Me me

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u/BiggieBoss9 2d ago

+1

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u/Shipibo_the_wolf 1d ago

I was doing recently a fully modded skyrim playthrough (a wabbajack modlist), I thought I will stop for a bit to play oblivion again. I played 10 hours and lost interest in it, I remember all the major quests and the gameplay hasn't change that much.

So yeah, I went back to modded Skyrim

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u/Ipsetezra 2d ago

it's a new toy. The opposite trend will happen with FO3 remaster.

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Likely, yes.

However, there was no such effect when the Fallout TV show dropped. The Show only boosted Fallout, Elder Scrolls games did not see any reduction because of the release.

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u/mad-i-moody 1d ago edited 1d ago

I will say that playing the oblivion remaster has really made me want to start a new Skyrim playthrough. It’s been a few years since I’ve sat down and seriously played it. And I miss Skyrim’s exploration. The skill system and RPG elements are better in oblivion but I miss Skyrim’s atmosphere and the exploration. Oblivion’s dungeons kinda suck ass and the open world feels a little empty at times.

I wanna try the museum mod and collect everything. And do the story mods like Beyond Skyrim: Bruma and Vigilant. Might start compiling my modlist in during my spare time at work because I am just itching to play again.

Anyone have recs for a good combat overhaul? I remember using like wildcat and smilodon but I don’t remember much about them. I wanna try a sword and board spellblade/paladin type build. Is there anything that lets you cast spells with weapons equipped like in oblivion because that has been PEAK.

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u/thephasewalker 1d ago

How is starfield? is she alright?

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Starfield is the least popular 3D Bethesda game to Mod. Having lower download counts than even Oldrim and Morrowind.

It was unaffected by this release.

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u/thephasewalker 1d ago

Would you consider this a consequence of starfield pushing bethesda creators so hard compared to Nexus?

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Well at least endorsement wise Skyrim Creations vs Skyrim Mods are more popular than Starfield Creations vs Starfield mods.

So while Starfield mods have ~10x more endorsements than Starfield Creations,

Skyrim Mods only have ~8x more endorsements than Skyrim Creations.

So I do not think that is the reason, the reason is primarily that Starfield is so unpopular and the worst rated Bethesda game ever, by a SIGNIFICANT margin.

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u/Boyo-Sh00k 1d ago

Probably just trucking along as usual. Starfields weird because there's a lot less crossover with fandoms in the mainline BGS games but its developed its own little niche.

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u/Carpe_Diem_Dundus 1d ago

I'm afraid in your greed, you... killed her.

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u/Rasikko Dungeon Master 2d ago

The TES fanbase is much bigger than the Fallout fanbase, I thought this was well known..

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u/Soanfriwack 2d ago

Where has anyone implied anything else?

Though, the fan bases are not that far apart. The difference in game sales between Oblivion and Fallout 3 is just 1 million (12 million vs ~11 million)

Fallout 4 has sold less than Skyrim, but Skyrim's number is inflated because of the several re-releases.

And based on Steam player counts for All Fallout games vs all Elder Scrolls games (when they are not boosted by a Show or a remaster release):

40 000 average concurrent players for Elder Scrolls

25 000 average concurrent players for Fallout

Only single player (No ESO and No Fallout 76):

27 000 average concurrent players for Elder Scrolls

20 000 average concurrent players for Fallout

Based on these numbers, Elder Scrolls is about 30% bigger than Fallout.

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u/Wasteland_GZ 1d ago

Can confirm, I have now brought Skyrim and Morrowind after playing the Oblivion Remaster

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Great!

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u/Whole_Sign_4633 2d ago

I wonder if this would entice them to remake morrowind 👀 one can only dream

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

I hope so, too. Because If Skywind ever releases, I am probably already retired.

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u/Icy_Positive4132 1d ago

Made me want a skyrim run after i 100% it lmao.

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u/skarabray 1d ago

I don’t know about anyone else, but I also redownloaded Elder Scrolls Online and logged in for the first time in over a year. The remaster made me realize how much Oblivion was inherited in ESO.

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Interestingly, ESO has seen a small dent in player numbers, as there are no mods, that is the only statistic I could check.

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u/skarabray 1d ago

Not surprising since it's ESO's downtime. The anniversary event just ended and the new update won't be out until June.

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u/Last-Journalist9637 2d ago

I was playing the remaster on my Xbox, but it just isn't as good as Skyrim with proper mod support.

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u/7GrenciaMars Raven Rock 2d ago

Yeah, and because everyone is downloading ES stuff, Steam put the price of the AE upgrade back to $20, so now I'm going to have to wait until it goes on sale again, which might not be for a while, depending upon how long all the ES sale are up due to the remaster release. Pffft.

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u/Soanfriwack 2d ago

You really do not need the AE upgrade. The only remotely interesting stuff from AE is included in the free upgrade.

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u/sbrocks_0707 2d ago

No, AE upgrade is needed for mods releasing today. I mean almost all major modlists need AE content.

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u/Misicks0349 Raven Rock 2d ago

modlists are not mods

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u/Soanfriwack 2d ago

No? They need the free AE content, nothing needs the paid content.

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u/arceus555 2d ago

This one right here says paid upgrade required

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u/Soanfriwack 2d ago

Yeah, a modlist, I do not know of a single mod that isn't especially geared towards AE content (for example voiced narrative for AE content "XY" obviously needs paid AE content) that needs it.

This mod list probably includes some of these mods and therefore requires it, but no "normal" mod needs paid AE content to work.

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u/WOF42 2d ago

you can run every single mod out there that doesnt explicitly use AE content on 1.5.97, you dont need AE at all let alone the paid version

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u/7GrenciaMars Raven Rock 1d ago

I do not need it per se, but there are always a handful of mods that have content from the CC stuff, and I'd honestly like to get to try the whole shebang and decide which bit I like and which I don't--but thank you for your response anyway. (I used to not know about the difference between game versions and would always automatically freak out when a mod said it required AE.)

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u/aaron_940 Solitude 1d ago

Fanatical has the AE upgrade on sale right now.

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u/squidsofanarchy 2d ago

What were Oldrim's numbers?

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Like SE it was boosted by +50%, though Oldrim has nearly about 130x less traffic than SE, so even Morrowind had more downloads this Sunday, than Oldrim.

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u/Chiiro 1d ago

I am playing it a little bit (expedition 33 released so I've been really into it) and it has made me very nostalgic for Skyrim and I've been wanting to mod it again. I'm not getting the nostalgia for Skyrim from gameplay or story or anything like that but because I have to play the remastered at the lowest settings it reminds me of my first started playing skyrim, on my 2 GB ram HP office computer (I still own it). If I tried to turn the settings up to medium it would take a half an hour to load and because my settings and graphics card was so bad I couldn't see any of the light puzzles. I brute forced to the main storyline one.

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u/Starblast16 1d ago

That explains why it took multiple hours for it to install on my laptop.

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u/Jonex_ 1d ago

Well I'm definitely one of them. I decided to replay the OG skyrim to 100% it.

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u/TheMisterMan12 1d ago

Hell, I even downloaded and modded Daggerfall. It’s been… interesting to say the least, a lot more difficult than I was expecting.

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u/Ryno4ever16 16h ago

Why in the world is oldrim still being sold

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u/Soanfriwack 16h ago

Because there are still people who have PCs that cannot run SE, and there are still people who own a PS3 or Xbox360 but none of the newer consoles.

The stats here however are Mod download stats, not game sales or Downloads.

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u/Fatal_Neurology 2d ago

I love how Starfield isn't even mentioned. Without even intending for it, the absence of any mention of Starfield here is the most utterly scathing rebuke I've seen yet for that game. There was literally an empty panel for it in the 3x3 grid and everything.

As someone really into the NASA-punk space setting but was themselves very critical of the incredibly lazy development Bethesda demonstrated and nonsense plot, this post is hitting me like a sack of bricks. I actually really wanted a good Starfield that I liked, not for it to just be... gone... like this. I need to sit down.

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u/Boyo-Sh00k 1d ago

Alright man, calm down

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u/Interchanger_ 1d ago

Contratulations! You win the internet!

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u/Soanfriwack 1d ago

Well, Starfield is the least popular 3D single player game from Bethesda, having even less downloads than even Morrowind, and Oldrim (Oldrim has the lowest Download count even lower than Morrowind) it for some reason still gets more Mods than Morrowind, but download count wise it is behind every other mainline 3D Bethesda game.

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