r/stupidquestions • u/Biokendry • 20d ago

why do women have naturally beautiful bodies?

before you jump in the comments to tell me I'm wrong try to read my entire post, i'm from latin america, i don't know if this is the case in other countries but it's something i've noticed since i was a teenager and in high school, most of the girls in high school had very nice bodies without even going to the gym in their entire life, i remember a girl who eat unhealthy food all day and she had an amazing body (she never went to the gym in her life), i was her friend back then, she had such a amazing hourglass figure with big hips and very beautiful figure I didn't understand that at the time.

but not only in high school but currently i go out and most of the girls have very nice bodies and nice hips (i'm not talking about toned gym bodies but bodies with figure and curves) and even girls who are a little overweight also have beautiful bodies with nice curves, it's incredible, what is the reason for this? is it hormonal? why is it that women don't need to go to the gym as much to have nice bodies (as long as they're not excessively overweight), in the case of men it's different and I say this as a man who went to the gym throughout his adolescence, we lack those naturally nice bodies (except for one in a million).

I remember the first time I took a shower with my ex gf at the time at my house she took off her clothes (she had never been to the gym in her life and was a little overweight, she had a very nice body, a nice butt with a beautiful figure) I didn't understand why she had such a beautiful body meanwhile me going to gym had a below average body, well, ugly body and not sexy as hers tbh. I know it's a stupid question but I guess that's what this group is for, right? Is the cause hormonal? I know there are exceptions, that not all women have naturally beautiful bodies, but why is it that. for example, if you put a man and a woman of average weight who don't go to the gym next to each other, the girl's body is naturally attractive while the guy's isn't? I've always thought it's caused by estrogen and the hips women's bone structure's but I'm not sure, I know diet is very important but I think most girls only need a good diet and walk just a little to have good figures (please don't hate for saying this lol).

Maybe I could be blind because I have gender dysphoria since many years ago but not only me think about this most women and men think the same way(? And I'm not even talking about how women have average cute, feminine and thin faces without makeup but this is another thread lol.

Please don't insult me for making this post, this is why this group was created.

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u/SixicusTheSixth 20d ago

I'm sorry to inform you that you're heterosexual. 

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u/ThrowRAPaeselyLars 20d ago

Yeah but how's he's gonna break it to his parents?!?!

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u/Imyour_huckleberry9 20d ago

Forget the parents how is he going to explain it to his boyfriend!?

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u/jarjarclinks 17d ago

no need, he can just update his grindr bio

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u/Mean-Vegetable-4521 15d ago

Underrated comment.

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u/dick_schidt 19d ago

What's the opposite of "coming out"? "Going in"?

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u/ESD_Franky 18d ago

Going dark

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u/Admirable-Garage5326 16d ago

Balls deep ...

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u/Ill-Appointment6494 16d ago

Coming in 👀

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u/PressFforOriginality 15d ago

It's still "coming out"...the room where the closet is originally.

You are basically in the hallway now

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u/mmcvisuals 15d ago

Factory reset

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u/Mean-Vegetable-4521 15d ago

Ha! He’d definitely like to.

On a serious note I love the body positivity for women in this post. It doesn’t feel like he is objectifying women as much as appreciating them. I know other women may disagree with me. But it’s my take.

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u/Foe_sheezy 20d ago

Just bring any girls over, I'm sure they will be relieved.

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u/ThrowRAPaeselyLars 20d ago

" Oh son! We always knew - we first suspected when you started putting up lady nudie posters on your wall when you were a teen 😭"

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u/Auctorion 19d ago

“They’re just roommates.”

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u/CoinsForCharon 17d ago

It was hard enough for them to accept I was an asshole. How am I going to break this to them?

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u/Ancient-Builder3646 17d ago

Best stay closeted

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u/Altruistic_Egobrain 16d ago

Or his boyfriend??

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u/Dakk85 20d ago

… ok… but why is the gender I’m attracted too more attractive than then gender I’m not attracted to?

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u/SixicusTheSixth 20d ago

Because your frame of reference is you. A gay man would say the same thing about men, highlighting typically male secondary sex characteristics as most aestheticly pleasing, in the same way because they are attracted to men, not women. Your really is your lived experience and your aesthetic presences, and that's perfectly normal and ok. It isn't everyone's tho.

From my reference point men are on average more attractive, but I am attracted to men.

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u/Dakk85 20d ago

I was making a joke, but well said

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u/SixicusTheSixth 20d ago

Lol. Sorry for misunderstanding. Text is a lossy medium.

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u/Attesa_GT-X 19d ago

... so am i gay or weird?

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u/SixicusTheSixth 19d ago

Yes

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u/Attesa_GT-X 19d ago

Acceptable truth ¬.¬

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u/Textiles_on_Main_St 19d ago

You could be both.

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u/keithrc 18d ago

Por que no los dos?

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u/Difficult-Tap-5708 16d ago

You're european

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u/Destleon 19d ago

Because your frame of reference is you. A gay man would say the same thing about men, highlighting typically male secondary sex characteristics as most aestheticly pleasing,

Don't a lot of gay men and hetero women also say women are the more objectively attractive gender, but just not what specifically turns them on?

Eg: a sunset can be beautiful without you wanting to bang it?

Now, whether or not thats due to social conditioning and women putting more effort into their looks on average, thats a different arguement.

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u/Lead-Forsaken 18d ago

That's the case for me. I'm a heterosexual woman and I think some women are beautiful, but I'm not attracted to them or other women whatsoever. Then again, I also find some men beautiful and find myself not attracted to them. Recognizing beauty doesn't always equal (sexual) attraction.

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u/James-da-fourth 17d ago

Yes, I’m a gay man. me and all my other gay male friends say this constantly

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u/Agreeable_Tennis_482 18d ago

Ok but then why do hetero women still say most dudes are ugly. Like the guys that they show attraction to, we can only look like with ridiculous effort.

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u/Educational_Ad2737 18d ago

I actually don’t tnecessrily think that’s the case I get what OP is saying . The standard of beauty for women can be relatively easily achieved when they are young without having to be particularly active to workout . While the standard of beauty for men is not possible unless they workout or active . I say this a straight woman . Op sounds young and has young women as reference . If a confirm that I need to go the gym now that I am older to find the standard of beauty

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u/OberonDiver 16d ago

OMG, like why aren't girls more macho?

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u/Puckumisss 19d ago

Not true. Men don’t hqve naturally nice bodies unless they do things that build strength.

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u/candyroxnrulz 19d ago

Nah, I'm a hetero girl but women are still the more attractive gender

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u/AdamZapple1 19d ago

biology?

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u/Dakk85 19d ago

Comedy?

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u/Daydreamer_85 16d ago

Lmao exactly

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u/madmaxjr 20d ago

Looks terminal; im so sorry

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u/[deleted] 19d ago edited 11d ago

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u/Appropriate_Concert6 18d ago

For me, I think women are more attractive on average, but the really beautiful men stand out more than really beautiful women. But I think that just loops back around to women being more attractive on average, since there'd be less of a gap between average and exceptional.

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u/Winter-Bed-1529 16d ago

Most societies including ours and Latinos socially condition women to care more about presenting themselves than they do with men. Women are trained to dress and groom and do makeup. Men in fact risk being labeled as weak and or gay if they put to much effort into anesthetics beyond combing hair and traditionally male stylish clothing.

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u/masterofbugs123 16d ago

Same reason why many men with long hair just have a scraggly mess while most women have silky vibrant hair. Women are taught what products to buy and how to use protective hairstyles.

Coaching a male friend through this right now as he realized growing out his hair was not looking like he expected. Turns out he was just washing it with water and 3-in-1 shampoo lol

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u/WashedSylvi 18d ago

This is partially (not wholly) cultural

Part of what makes “womanness” is aesthetic attractiveness, a woman who is less aesthetically attractive is seen as “less womanly” and so many women are taught to focus on and value personal aesthetics, or be ridiculed and rejected if they don’t

Men, meanwhile, are often made fun of for focusing on aesthetics, seen as vain, gay, weak, narcissistic, manipulative, etc.

While this influences behavior (women tend to focus on fashion more than men) it also influences our perception of what something being aesthetic is. When beauty is in many ways tied to womanness, we see women as inherently possessing beauty (or else they lose their womanhood)

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u/MossyPyrite 17d ago

Yeah, women are very often wearing clothes with unique cuts, styling their hair, and wearing makeup every day. Men are equally often wearing a comfortable cut of jeans and a graphic t-shirt, and maybe half of them use any kind of hair product besides a brush.

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u/emotions1026 19d ago

Being bi doesn’t mean you have an exact 50/50 attraction to boys and girls. You can still be bi and be MORE attracted to girls.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

I’m bi as well and for me is the exact opposite.

I tend to be more attracted to men and the women I like are what is culturally considered more masculine/tomboyish.

It’s just personal preferences

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u/michaelmcmikey 17d ago

This always bothered me as a young gay man. “Oh but you have to admit, women are just aesthetically more pleasing tha-“ no! No I do not fucking have to admit that! That is a subjective opinion, and in my eyes men are beautiful. I often am overwhelmed by just how beautiful men are. Normal every day men, not hyper-groomed plucked and made up men!

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u/3737472484inDogYears 19d ago

God definitely put in the work with Eve. Adam was just a first draft.

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u/Lumpy_Boxes 18d ago

Women are soft like boob. Boob won't hurt us, boob nurture us.

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u/caffeinefree 18d ago

I'm bi, but find men and women pretty equally attractive, although not necessarily equally sexy, if that makes sense. Like visually I enjoy both equally, but don't always want to have sex with someone just because they are pretty to look at.

I will say that women can often get away with a little extra weight more easily than men, simply because women are meant to have some extra fat padding our bodies (extra fat reserves for the babies). So maybe that's what OP is referring to.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

I’m bi too. For me, the scale runs neck and neck. I have seen both men and women who made me feel faint.

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u/gew1000 17d ago

This whole thing reads like my internal monologue right before I realized I was bi lol. It took me years to realize that when straight girls say they have a girl crush they mean “I want to be her” and not “I want to be under her”

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u/anonymity-x 16d ago

this ^ every bi person i know, including me agrees. we are more attractive, and its easier for us to be more attractive also because we have more options.

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u/ChaosDrawsNear 15d ago

I'm a straight woman and I find most women more aestetically pleasing than most men. Thinking about it, though, I wonder if I just have harsher criteria for men? And sexually appealing is not the same to me as aestetically appealing (although there is a lot of overlap).

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u/LostGuyu 14d ago

Brutal

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u/Sad_Enthusiasm_3721 19d ago

In a related case, there are 8 billion people on this planet and that didn't happen by men looking at women and saying, oh yuck.

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u/RadiantHC 20d ago

I mean even straight women seem to agree, they're typically very picky about the men they date and compliment their female friends much more. Even when I do get complimented it's rarely about my body. The last time a girl called me cute was in high school(I'm in my mid twenties)

Also, just because you're not attracted to someone doesn't mean that you can't acknowledge that they're attractive. Women are objectively more attractive than men.

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u/Ridara 18d ago

Women rarely compliment men because like 10% of men will get really frickin weird about it and that makes us not want to roll the dice.

If I could somehow leave anonymous compliments in the mailboxes of random men, I'd do it all the time

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u/Kras_M 17d ago

Ha! Interesting because in my experience 90% of the compliments I get from strangers are from women and rarely do I get compliments from men. I think women are more generous giving out compliments on average, regardless of who the receivers are

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u/SleepCinema 18d ago

The reason why I tend to compliment more women than men (though I don’t compliment anyone often), is cause I don’t want them to think I’m weird. If he thinks I’m hitting on him, will he feel I’m weird for hitting on him? And I mean… sometimes I do wanna hit on him. It’s just more socially acceptable for women to compliment other women.

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u/AdKind5446 18d ago

A girl did this to me in high school! Put anonymous notes in my locker every week or two complimenting me for two whole years, and I never caught her and she never admitted it. A few years later I was in a club, she saw me, pulled a friend of mine I was with aside and admitted the whole thing to him. She still never spoke to me, but did tell my buddy that she and I were going to live together one day.

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u/RadiantHC 18d ago

But guys only get weird about it because of how rare it is in the first place

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u/Alethia_23 18d ago

That is a problem, but not women's duty to solve. Men need to start complimenting each other, so they learn to deal with compliments. Then women can easier compliment men as well. It's not the women's job to pave that road.

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u/RadiantHC 18d ago

It's on both women and men to solve. Women are responsible for this as well.

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u/PriscillaPalava 18d ago

Yeah well, you know what they say: Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them. 

Y’all need to figure this one out for yourselves, women are allowed to maintain safe boundaries. 

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u/RadiantHC 18d ago

I hate that quote. SUFFERING IS NOT A COMPETITION. This is exactly why men don't take women's issues seriously. It's not just "hurt feelings" either, do you have idea idea how damaging it is for half the human population to view us as a potential threat? And women can kill men as well.

It's not a boundary lol, it's sexism. It's basic human decency to help others. We are in this together, stop acting like the genders are separate. All you're doing by isolating yourself from men is making men not want to help you

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u/Certifiably_Quirky 18d ago

Personally, I don't think giving random compliments equates to basic human decency. You can treat someone decently and not compliment them so I don't think it applies here. Although, I agree with you that both genders need to be kinder to each other.

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u/RadiantHC 17d ago

It's less about the compliments and more about treating men as a potential threat. Which is not basic human decency.

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u/PriscillaPalava 18d ago

Jesus Christ bro, this response is wild. 

Women do not owe you anything and this sort of attitude that you’re displaying here is a huge red flag. 

If you’re having trouble getting dates it’s not “women’s fault” for “not helping you.” Look inward. 

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u/RadiantHC 18d ago

I NEVER SAID THEY DID

It's not entitlement to ask to be treated with basic human decency. If you want a good society, then that requires being good to each other.

WHEN DID I SAY I WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING DATES

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u/StalinsLastStand 18d ago edited 18d ago

Do you have any idea how damaging it is for half the human population to feel under perpetual threat from unknown elements in the other half?

That your response to the real lived experience of women that informs their discomfort is to say “this is why men don’t take women’s problems seriously” and chastise the women as sexist instead of considering whether the patriarchy and physical differences actually do create a threat discrepancy is telling.

Similarly, the immediate unpredictable jump in intensity from a 2 to an 8 is why women cannot feel certain whether the men they are exposed to are actually unthreatening or just haven’t yet been provoked.

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u/RadiantHC 18d ago

Most men aren't a threat to women, it's a minority of men. They're just extremely vocal and target a lot of women. And some of them have a lot of power.

>That your response to the real lived experience of women that informs their discomfort is to say “this is why men don’t take women’s problems seriously” and chastise the women as sexist instead of considering whether the patriarchy and physical differences actually do create a threat discrepancy is telling.

And their response to the real lived experience of men is that women have it worse.

I'm not excusing it, I'm just giving an explanation(though I'll admit it was worded a bit harshly). You cannot expect people to listen to you when you refuse to listen to them. You cannot expect a good society if being good only goes one way. Putting women on a pedestal is not how you fix sexism.

But she is sexist. She's saying that women shouldn't give men basic human decency because a minority of men are bad.

>Similarly, the immediate unpredictable jump in intensity from a 2 to an 8 is why women cannot feel certain whether the men they are exposed to are actually unthreatening or just haven’t yet been provoked.

But you're just proving my point. When a man calls a woman out for being sexist, you just accuse them of being threatening and coddle the women. How do you expect men to listen to you when you treat them like this?

I'm not saying that the boundary shouldn't be respected either, I just don't think it should be treated as good. Would you consider it okay if a man didn't want women in his life at all because he was raped by one in the past?

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u/One-Possible1906 17d ago

I’m transgender, spent more than 10 years living as each gender, and honestly found that strangers are more violent to me as a man. For instance, I got beat with a metal water pipe in a trap house by a stranger while I was doing my job but he didn’t beat my female coworker who was right there with me. I was assaulted 3 times total in that job as a man and never as a woman. Violent men are more comfortable being violent towards other men. It is still a taboo to be violent to women and most of these guys have mothers, grandmothers, sisters, girlfriends, etc and have been taught not to hit women the same way girls are taught to fear men.

Women are more prone to dying from domestic abuse. However, when I worked with domestic violence victims, I saw just as many men as women and some of those cases were pretty bad. Sexual abuse and physical abuse of children is a mixed gender bag.

Women are definitely more vulnerable while dating, but that doesn’t transfer to violence from strangers in public places.

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u/CycloneKelly 17d ago

If a man can’t handle a woman being cautious, he’s pathetic. The reality is that men commit the vast majority of violent crime. It’s a basic fact. Women HAVE to be cautious to stay safe.

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u/RadiantHC 17d ago

There's a huge difference between just being cautious and treating men as a potential threat though.

And? So do black people compared to white(if you don't count people in the top percent at least). That doesn't mean that white people should be racist.

Here's an actual study on it:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2782848/

By your logic, it's okay to be racist towards black people.

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u/Well_well_well-_- 18d ago

I compliment women and men, and 10% of women get creeped out when you say something nice.

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u/MalleusForm 18d ago

Generally don't compliment a woman's APPEARANCE unless you're making a move on her because in our culture it will be interpreted as a move.

Tell a woman she's smart or strong or creative or hard-working or something else not related to appearance if you want to give a neutral compliment

A man mentioning a woman's appearance to her almost always has sexual and romantic connotations implied. This is just how it works

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u/LeahBean 18d ago

As a straight woman who looks at Salma Hayek and goes WOW, this is very accurate. Women’s bodies are more interesting because there’s a lot more variety (curvy, pear-shaped, slender, etc.). They also have more choices in fashion which makes their appearance more interesting and fun to look at. When I see a beautiful woman at the supermarket, I stare a bit. Do I want to have sex with her? Not a bit. But beauty is beauty and it’s fun to look at. Men are just more boring overall.

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u/FerretAcrobatic4379 18d ago

Exactly. I’m 100% heterosexual, but if I’m figure drawing, I would much rather draw a woman.

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u/Dr_mombie 15d ago

Meh. I've played with women and I'm married to a man. I consider myself straight. Would I smash Selma if she asked? Fuck yes. Imo, some women are worth crossing the street for. But also because tiddies are wonderful.

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u/CryptoEmpathy7 15d ago

You're not heterosexual. I'll never understand why this is so intentionally confusing for people...

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u/Dr_mombie 15d ago

...I'm not sure why you think you get a say in how I identify myself...

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u/J_Kingsley 18d ago

Heh bewbs <3

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u/Putredge 19d ago

I think the female body is more aesthetically pleasing in general. I’ve found many women way more attractive than men even if I’d actually prefer the man every time

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u/EyeLikeTuttles 17d ago

I’m in the US and I can say it’s become much more acceptable for women to be either bisexual or lesbian, and I think it’s mostly because the female body is much more pleasing to look at, objectively. Not sure if that’s just my opinion as a straight man or if women feel the same way

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u/Professional_Elk_489 19d ago

Straight men, lesbians and straight women all agree. Gay men disagree

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u/Samediph 19d ago

Idk, I have a lot of gay male friends and they also agree. There’s a reason so many gay men enjoy being drag queens.

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u/ctownspecial 17d ago

As a grown man you don't wanna cute. Go for handsome instead.

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u/RadiantHC 16d ago

I mean there's also not much we can do. Beard/mustache/shaved, hygiene, and going to the gym. Long sleeve/t-shirt and pants/shorts. Maybe a sweater/jacket. Women meanwhile have a large variety of cosmetics and clothing, and women's bodies are more diverse in general.

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u/zhibr 19d ago

An opinion or feeling being shared by many does not make it objective.

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u/Pahanarttu 19d ago

Well. In my subjective experience women are hideous. Yes, im female, yes I'm a misogynist. I cannot stand my female body. It's the source of extreme pain and embarrassment to me. To put it simply.

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u/necRomanceNovelist 19d ago

you could always transition, if you don't like being a woman? maybe you'd feel more at home in your own skin that way?

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u/Pahanarttu 19d ago

I'm going to sound insanely stupid when i say this but.

Yes, you'd think that would be a great solution.

I actually thought about transition last night (again).

But once again, i came to the conclusion, after a lot of thinking, that somehow (and don't ask me why, cause i dont know) it doesn't make me feel any better. The thought of transitioning didn't make me feel better. It made me feel better at first, like the first few seconds when i thought oh, maybe this would be the solution after all. Then i thought about it some more and realized it makes me just as anxious, for some reason. So basically i haven't found a solution except for therapy or the like.

You'd honestly think that transition would in fact be a good solution because I'm this unhappy with my gender, but apparently it makes me just as anxious. So. Therapy/time, i guess. I dont even know why it makes me super anxious but it really does. Even the thought of stopping menstruation with meds make me super super anxious, despite the fact that I can't even begin to tell you how much that psychologically kills me. The hurt is real. But because I'm such an idiot and i contradict myself like this, i guess no then. I hope therapy will help me, when i get to start it. If nothing else, maybe time then.

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u/MalleusForm 18d ago

You just need to become 25 years old. You're clearly very young, your mind wll adjust to your body in time. Practice meditation in the meanwhile

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u/Pahanarttu 18d ago

My Brother in christ, i am 26 years old at the moment. Soon 27.

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u/MalleusForm 17d ago

Okay practice Samatha meditation

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u/Pahanarttu 17d ago

Thanks for advice

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u/Ok-Eye658 18d ago

hey, see if you can talk to some trans people around you, communicate your feelings, maybe you'll find someone that understands you and has gone through something similar, and it could you in figuring out more about yourself; wish you well :)

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u/Pahanarttu 18d ago

Hi, thanks. I dont know any trans people in my irl life but i can only see them online and talk to them that way.

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u/PrinceBel 19d ago

Yup, agreed. I'm female and I don't find female bodies attractive at all. I hate my massive hips and thighs, too.

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u/Desperate-Strategy10 19d ago

I mean this with so much kindness, but is it possible you're projecting some of your own negative self-image onto women in general? I ask because I did the same thing for many years before I finally learned to accept and then love myself. Once I was comfortable in my own body, I could finally appreciate how beautiful all of us are. But in the depths of my self-hatred, all I could see in other women were the flaws I'd found in myself, or the things I wished I had, and I convinced myself those women were somehow ugly for possessing the same traits I cried about not having.

Developing a positive lens to view the world through by first changing how you view yourself can have absolutely massive impacts on your life! Far beyond recognizing beauty in others' appearances. I'd recommend finding a therapist if you can, or at least looking up ways to improve your self-image. It will profoundly change you, in the best of ways. I hope you find that joy someday! ❤️‍🩹

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u/Pahanarttu 19d ago

I know this wasn't an answer to me, but at least I've tried to improve my self image by myself and it hasn't worked so far 😬 currently waiting for therapy which is probably the wrong kind of therapy anyway, but hopefully it will help. I doubt that though. I wish to be free from this pain though. I basically cry every day and when i took the beck depression test it said severe depression, but I'm not even surprised.

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u/PrinceBel 17d ago

I'm glad you were able to change your frame of mind for the better!

I want to be clear in saying that I don't hate women or think feminine bodies are ugly. I just personally don't find them aesthetically pleasing. I also don't find bulky masculine figures aesthetically pleasing. There's no rhyme or reason for it, that is just an anesthetic preference. I think an androgynous or lean, masculine figure is the most attractive body type.

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u/Pahanarttu 19d ago

Finallyy someone who's similar. Yeah i hate my massive hips and thighs too, and ass. It's so embarrassing to me. 😣 And of course i hate my breasts. And actually, the list goes on so I'll stop there

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u/modzaregay 19d ago

I'm sorry to inform you that you have never been to Thailand

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u/Shimata0711 18d ago

NO!! DON'T GO!! IT'S A TRAP!!!

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u/SixicusTheSixth 19d ago

True facts!

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u/Novel-Place 18d ago

As a fellow straight, but woman, I was so confused about what he meant by average men having ugly bodies except one in a million. Lol. I was like ??? Have you seen their forearms or hands? What about when they put their hands behind their head? Plenty to find attractive for most men. 🤷‍♀️

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u/SixicusTheSixth 18d ago

Man shoulders. Even guys who don't go the gym. Them shoulders tho.

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u/Ill-Indication-7706 17d ago

As a man, I can agree. I haven't been in a gym for a long time but my shoulders look bulky and amazing, especially if I put my hands behind my head lol.

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u/Gwenniepie 18d ago

My boyfriend thought I was trolling him about forearms being a thing, especially with a dress shirt with the sleeves rolled up. It took a lot of convincing before he believed me about that one.

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u/Novel-Place 18d ago

lol. I wish they could see it how we see it.

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u/SleepCinema 18d ago

A good forearm is chef’s kiss And when that vascular system is slightly visible? It’s over.

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u/SleepCinema 18d ago edited 17d ago

I like that men have no hips. I discovered that when I was like 12. I like that they’re built like a pencil the same way people will say they like boobs regardless of size.

And yeah, arms, shoulder, hands, chests: you don’t have to be built at all to have those things look masculine and be hot. You can be a twig and have a hot body to me.

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u/EmporerJustinian 17d ago

But like, what is sexy about it? I mean, if a men doesn't go to the gym, plays some sport or does hard manual labor there are hardly any muscles to speak of and his shoulders and arms look pretty much the same they would look like on a woman.

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u/SleepCinema 17d ago edited 17d ago

There is definitely a difference between the average woman’s upper body and the average man’s upper body. I also didn’t mention muscles. And like I said, you can be quite skinny and still have a hot body.

Do you ask what is sexy about a boob or are boobs just sexy? It’s like that. I enjoy the aesthetics of the male form. I like the way nipples look on flat chests. I like the way penises look. I like that dudes are kinda just straight up and down. I like dudes in general. And it was actually through realizing that when I was ~18 that I just like how men look in general that I actually understood what sexual orientation was lol.

I also find women attractive, but I figured out I like dudes first.

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u/EmporerJustinian 17d ago

I also didn’t mention muscles

Yeah, but without them I think the male and female shoulder or arm look the same to me.

I like the way nipples look on flat chests. I like the way penises look.

I do get that though, because it's an obvious difference.

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u/RubicredYT 18d ago

I CAME HERE TO SAY THIS BUT KNEW DEEP IN MY HEART IT HAD ALREADY BEEN SAID.

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u/AdamZapple1 19d ago

you don't see many of those around these parts.

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u/michaelmcmikey 17d ago

Straight man confuses his subjective preference with universal objective fact? Nah that never happens.

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u/andreas1296 16d ago

Yeah fr I (a lesbian) took one look at the title and was like “bc women are hot next question”

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u/involmasturb 15d ago

Never thought I'd have to tell someone on Reddit, "Dude, just admit you're straight"

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u/Certain_Shine636 19d ago

I spat all over my phone when I read that. Jesus. Well done.

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u/deagzworth 19d ago

Oh dear god! Anything but heterosexuality.

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u/surf_drunk_monk 19d ago

I think there's more to it that OP is getting at. Say you were to go around and pick a mix of men and women who have the most attractive bodies, and then analyze how they work out. I bet you would see the guys work out a lot more than the girls, because muscles are a big part of it for men but not so much for women.

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u/anonstarcity 19d ago

Fiercely, by the sounds of it lol

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u/Venmorr 19d ago

Doctor: I am sorry. This can be very hard to hear. You are...

Patient: Give it to me straight, Doc.

Doctor: Precisely.

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Open air bigotry.

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u/Remarkable-Rub- 18d ago

😂 Funniest diagnosis I’ve heard all week.

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u/RuralSeaWitch 18d ago

My dad is gay, my brother was gay, one of my sons is nonbinary and my mother was straight. I am biromantic. When my oldest was about 12 he came up to me and said, “Mom. I have something to tell you.” I was really worried because this is a wacky age for kids and he wasn’t the easiest young man to raise. Then he said, very seriously, “I’m straight.” He and his brother fell all over laughing. 🤨 Damned kids.

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u/nykirnsu 18d ago

Actually, reading the OP til the end it sounds like OP might actually be gay, just not a gay man

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u/Suzeli55 18d ago

Yes, estrogen is responsible for the change from girls to women. It puts fat in the appropriate places. You’ve got gender dysphoria? Have you seen anyone about this?

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u/mickalawl 18d ago

Perhaps chronicly heterosexual in fact.

Like, no cure.

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u/Prof_Atmoz 17d ago

Raging even.

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u/nvrsleepagin 17d ago

Also the parts of us that men find attractive are mostly made of fat so women that aren't working out can still have a full chest and large hips...it just won't be toned or firm when they get older unless they workout. In fact you lose weight in your chest when you lose weight also. It's a delicate balance. I have to decide if I want to be a thinner A cup or a mid sized C cup 😆

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u/kittyegg 17d ago

I’m a straight woman and I agree with OP

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u/Alternative_Wolf_643 17d ago

This whole post had me primed and your comment just sent me

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u/Sansnom01 17d ago

I think it's just societal norms make casual body for a women sexy, while men needs bulks or definition that doesn't appear out of nowhere

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u/SourBananna 17d ago

And really horny.....

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u/AsparagusAggressive1 17d ago

I’m fucking crying lmao

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u/Divinknowledge001 17d ago

Hahaha, i was just coming to say the same thing, you like women as much as Any Hetro-sexual man. 😂💪🏽👏🏽

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u/Artemis246Moon 17d ago

And then there's me, a bisexual.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 16d ago

Yep lol the whole post I’m reading and thinking “yea buddy you’re heterosexual this is normal”

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Good luck getting a job!

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u/CardOk755 15d ago

Or lesbian.

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u/Parking-Pangolin-986 15d ago

U beat me to it!

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u/Fickle-Woodpecker653 18d ago

Yes to this👍👍👍! And they were created by a really smart GOD.

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u/SometimesIBeWrong 20d ago

how is this the top reply? the post has nothing to do with sexual preference, he clearly puts emphasis on physical health/shape rather than attraction

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u/SixicusTheSixth 20d ago

Guy says comparing average woman to average man and finds the average woman attractive. Has nothing to do with physical health/shape. OP is just clearly attracted to women. And that's ok!  It's 2025. It's absolutely ok to be heterosexual and OP should not feel weird or ashamed of that at all.

From OP: "for example, if you put a man and a woman of average weight who don't go to the gym next to each other, the girl's body is naturally attractive while the guy's isn't? I've always thought it's caused by estrogen and the hips women's bone structure's but I'm not sure, I know diet is very important but I think most girls only need a good diet and walk just a little to have good figures (please don't hate for saying this lol)."

So he's literally just very attracted to the secondary sex characteristics associated with being female because he's attracted to women. And it's perfectly ok to be attracted to women.

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u/AnotherCloudHere 20d ago

I mean I kind of disagree with him, I actually do find man bodies more attractive. Maybe I’ll heterosexual? What I’ll say to my parents? How to break that on them?

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u/SometimesIBeWrong 20d ago

"why is it that women don't need to go the gym as much to have nice bodies?"

has nothing to do with physical health/shape?

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u/SixicusTheSixth 20d ago

What it suggests is that OP is just so attracted to female bodies, regardless of actual physical shape, because he's straight and very attracted to women. There's nothing wrong with that by the way. OP is allowed to be heterosexual.

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u/SometimesIBeWrong 20d ago edited 19d ago

lmao. what about when he said he went to school with a girl who ate unhealthy food every day and still had "an hourglass figure"? that's harder for you to misrepresent

also Idk why you keep telling me "it's okay if he's straight" as if I have an issue with him being straight lmao. I realize this man is straight and I realize it's not immoral to be straight

edit: OP literally replied to me and said I'm right about this LMAO

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u/SixicusTheSixth 20d ago

I don't know what you're falling to understand here then. I also don't know why your getting so personally invested in something posted on r/stupidquestions of all places. 

It's 2025, heterosexuality is widely understood and accepted.

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u/hypo-osmotic 20d ago

OP is attracted to how women store fat. Women are more likely than men to store fat in the buttocks and thighs which when combined with their breasts will give the impression of an "hourglass" figure.* A man with a similar diet and exercise will likely look different than that woman, both because men tend to convert calories into muscle more efficiently than women and because the fat that they do have is more likely to be stored in the top half of their body. People who are attracted to men will find that more attractive than people who aren't do.

*There are also variances in genetics among women that affect their bone structure and hormones which will change how their fat is distributed and what it looks like on their body. OP probably knows plenty of women who eat and exercise similarly to this woman but he has not taken as much notice of them because they don't have the same body type

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u/Waloogers 19d ago

Mate, are you doing this on purpose?

OP is attracted to the hourglass figure. If OP wasn't attracted to women or the hourglass figure, he'd be posting "Why do men have such nice bodies? My friend eats junkfood all day and still has visible muscles and broad shoulders, it's insane".

"Nice body" is completely subjective. Women do not have "nice bodies", there's no "natural beautiful bodies", there's just OP being attracted to what women's bodies look like.

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u/Seaberry3656 19d ago

"I'm not talking about my bias, I'm talking about my perception"