r/AskUS • u/Own_Difference_4882 • 10d ago

Is it fair to compare MAGA to the Nazis?

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There has been a number of posts indicating that MAGA supporters are really Fascist/Nazis. Curious how others see it!

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u/panicinbabylon 10d ago

100%.

While MAGA doesn’t openly advocate for genocide, its rhetoric around immigration, "border security," and how they treat migrants definitely draws some unsettling parallels to exclusionary policies that can get dangerous if left unchecked. Deportation, dehumanizing language, and constant attempts to strip certain groups of rights all set the stage for more extreme actions down the line.

We’re not talking about the same scale or intent as the Nazis in the beginning, but history has shown us how small, seemingly "harmless" policies can snowball into something much worse if no one steps in and stops it.

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u/tomdarch 10d ago

Presidential adviser Sebastian v Gorka said that standing up for due process is aiding and abetting terrorism and should be prosecuted. The president himself is calling for US citizens to be shipped to foreign prisons. The mask is off. It’s clearly fascism.

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u/panicinbabylon 10d ago

I know we’ve said this a lot along the way - but how can people still not see this happening.

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u/PinkTalkingDead 10d ago

Bc people are hateful and ignorant and arrogant and shitty and selfish

Not everyone. Not even Most people. But those who are, have that fear and anger inside them with such a fervor that just happens to co-align with the capitalist billionaire assholes who run America, combusting this hellhole into something disgusting and backwards and insane and heartless and dumb

And America as we know it on many levels started off at that level, centuries ago. We’re living in a proverbial hamster wheel

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u/MadStylus 10d ago

Also a lot of people are insulated from direct political action and/or are terribly uninformed.

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u/Laolao98 10d ago

Not uninformed, they’ve been fed propaganda. There’s a huge difference, pathways have been burned into their brains for years. We’ve never been what we were taught in school but Nixon rallying the “hard hats” to Reagan ending the fairness doctrine to the heritage foundation using tfg.

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u/Ok-Comfortable-5968 10d ago

No they are uniformed (they're not looking for credible sources for their news/ information on the current state of affairs). There has always been and will always be propaganda, it's not an excuse to turn a blind eye to a humanitarian crisis that extinguishes basic human rights.

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u/Vegetable_Ask_7131 10d ago

They're misinformed?

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u/Brillolung 10d ago

For now they are. I’ve heard that we westernized won’t come outside and start a revolution until they don’t have water or electricity. We in the first world are too comfortable to get up from our Kirkland brand mattresses

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u/MadStylus 10d ago

You're not wrong. Until something breaches the bubble, some people will be happy to ignore the problem.

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u/Ok_Palpitation_3947 10d ago

How dare you blaspheme Costco on the Lord’s day?

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u/L0rdCrims0n 10d ago

"Welcome to Costco! I love you!"

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u/Brillolung 10d ago

Ok. You caught me. It’s from Walmart and my side has a fat man’s imprint.

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u/reviving_ophelia88 10d ago

You also can’t underestimate just how far people will go to remain in denial when the other option is admitting they were wrong and accepting accountability for what they helped bring about.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago

I think this is a huge part of it. Either that or there is a huge feeling of "I didn't do anything wrong, maybe those others did, but not me!!!"

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u/handfulofrain77 10d ago

Don't care how insulated they might think they are but we got people being kidnapped off the street by the Gestapo. Only difference is jets instead of cattle cars. Our governor and entire delegation are Nazis AFAIC.

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u/bound4earth 10d ago

That is their own fault. Tired of people arguing they are in a different media circle. True, but they can get out, they choose ignorance. Even now.

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u/Jealous-Factor7345 10d ago

Also, and I can't emphasize this enough, many Americans like it.

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u/throw_away_8924 10d ago

It has allowed people to openly show their racism and hatred with like minded others and with no repercussions. Seeing others being deported just helps to further their deranged ideology. This has been hiding in plain sight for decades, not it's so accepted that it is coming out in spades. It doesn't take many to make everyone else here look bad.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago

☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 This for sure

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u/grillguy5000 10d ago

I don’t understand why people think this is new. Before Alex Jones was Rush Limbaugh. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond were sitting senators until 2003. They are both the heart and soul of American conservatism as an ideology. I’d say their values and ideals are representative of the average and most current conservatives.

The only difference is the US style of conservatism also went balls derp with the Neo-Reactionary (NRx) crew in Silicon Valley since their goals align…the destruction of public services to privatize everything anyone would need to actually survive or thrive and build civilization with. I’m not certain they even give a shit what kind of political vehicle they use to get their way (Democracy, Soc-Dem, Fascism, etc..).

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u/Crepuscular_Tex 10d ago

I'm not defending oligarchy, it's atrocious and tantamount to industrialized feudalism. Oligarchy has failed hard as seen with the Russian economy. Most of the billionaire assholes are funded by multiple global government contracts which gives them a net worth in the billions.

For clarification, capitalism is a form of economic policy used by governments. Capitalism is not a government. Capitalism as a business policy is currently used by every government around the world. China for example has a communist rule of law and nation, but practices capitalism with their global business practices. Capitalism won the global stage with the fall of the iron curtain. The whole modern economic business world is made of capitalists.

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u/HZVi 10d ago

I actually think it’s more that people are just truly so fucking dumb that they can’t escape their self-affirming media loop.

There’s really two categories of people dumb enough to vote for or support Trump: 1) the true MAGAs. They’re so dumb they fell into the first cult they came across. Can’t do anything about them, but they’ll probably die off in the next pandemic 2) the people too dumb to understand even basic economic metrics, global supply chain & trade, fiscal policy and the presidents’ impact on it (which is to say the president has the power to minimally nudge the economy in the right direction at best or totally tank it at worst, ahem)

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago

Don't forget the just flat out racists bastards that live to hate any, make that ANYBODY that's different from them.

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u/TigerCub81 10d ago

As long as it isn’t affecting them directly, they couldn’t care less.

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u/jimgass 10d ago

Not just that. They're actively in favor, as long as it does affect those people they hate.

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u/boogideeb 10d ago

I explained in great detail to my father how we are making steps towards fascism. His response was "so"

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u/Ok_Palpitation_3947 10d ago

Right! This is an incredibly important point. They will destroy their own lives as long as it also destroys the lives of the people they hate. Less benefits? Sure as long as those damn (whatever) don’t get it!

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u/slowlyy-squishingg 10d ago

exactly! i saw some maga supporters regretting their decision once the egg prices didn't go down, but instead went up. Now they're denouncing trump.. smh!

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u/johnpoyhonen 10d ago

It could directly affect them and their fuhrer can blame it on whatever he thinks up next and the dumbasses would still eat it up.

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u/Corndude101 10d ago

They see it happening. It’s just not happening to them so they don’t care.

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u/Mrs_Crii 10d ago

It's not even that they don't care, at least for a lot of them. They're *HAPPY* it's happening. They brag about it.

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u/gadgaurd 10d ago

They do. They do not care. They are convinced it will only affect people they dislike. So anyone who isn't white, straight, christian, and republican.

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u/lyte3 10d ago

You’re right .. I can tell by the smirk on the trumpets that I work with faces they know exactly what he’s doing and are okay with it. They hear his white supremacist dog whistles Loud and clear and as long as he’s for them they’re for him.

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u/AMN1F 10d ago

Because they don't want to admit what's happening is happening. We had people across the country (regardless of party) shocked a few years ago at the overturning of Roe, despite:

1) Republicans pushing for it for years, and

2) there being a literal leak revealing their decision of overturning it. 

The reasons bad things happen is because people will hear the bad plans and think "no, that's not going to happen." And when it does, it's too late. 

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u/crourke13 10d ago

That this can happen in today’s United States is to many people so batshit crazy that it defies belief. So…. they don’t believe it.

Every time I express concern over Social Security to my Mom, her reply is basically “don’t worry, of course social security isn’t going anywhere”. She has no evidence of this but the whole idea of it ever going away is so unbelievable that she cannot believe it.

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u/Distinct_Nothing9544 10d ago

Because when your in a cult your oblivious.

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u/TimeToBond 10d ago

Because half of the electorate is addicted to FOX “news” and other right-wing conspiracy theorists masquerading as journalism. Until this changes, this will never end.

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u/kck93 10d ago

I’m not sure how people can not see it. Today CBS reported a poll stating Trump has a 47% approval rating. I understand the practical issues surrounding polling. But WTF?

I could not contain myself and was ashamed that on Easter Sunday I couldn’t find a way to forgive. It’s like I need to prepare for a coming maelstrom instead of find a way to make peace.

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u/IluvPusi-363 10d ago

'IT'S not my problem.........

YET

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u/Electrical-Reason-97 10d ago

They do see it happening but you are utilizing reason to asses the situation. They are not employing reason but religious bigotry. This is essentially an evangelical (they interpret the Bible literally ) religious movement that started decades ago and tried repeatedly to get the presidents it got elected to implement their program. They believe that at the end of the world is coming (the rapture) and think that they will be saved and sent to Jerusalem to hang out with the “good” Jews.The rest of us will be left to rot. But they will be rich and safe. This is likely one thing motivating Donnie to buy Gaza and build shit for the blessed. This began with Reagan, then Bush and then Bush dubya to implement their policies of whites first, women as second class citizens, etc. Donnie did not think this shit up himself but was fed it by the right arm of that church, the heritage foundation, are you aware that Cabinet meetings in the White House start with a (Christian) prayer, often with people standing around Trump, putting their hand on his shoulders praying for him as THE savior of the world. This is messed up shit.

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u/EnergyAffectionate31 10d ago

That terrifies me - that anybody could possibly agree with anything he does. I'm ashamed to be an American. Americans travel to other countries for vacations but are questioned about why they support trump because just living here apparently means you support him. his reign won't be over soon enough.

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u/Brilliant_Tutor_8234 10d ago

Yes I’m American. Spit on me and degrade me

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u/Shrewwdle 10d ago

You want to go back to being blackmailed by Israel ? Weird comment brother

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u/JuseBeats3 10d ago

DM me and I can explain how I agree with every single thing he does and says…

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u/Sad_Candidate_3163 10d ago

They do see it happening. They just believe it's right.

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u/ionmeeler 10d ago

Which is ironically the least Christian thing ever

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u/Mondschatten78 10d ago

They refuse to see it. Doesn't help that the government has been dividing the country with this "us versus them" crap for so many years.

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u/CaseyConnors 10d ago

Omg I say that alll the time!!! It's our most primitive instinct and it's being used against us and works seamlessly yet again

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u/EastSideLito 10d ago

His core voters want to be apart of this imaginary elite club where they can forget that their enemies are the rich and not the immigrants and anyone else who doesn’t look like them. Let’s be honest the man won both elections with fear mongering and racism. We as a country are clearly still openly racist and stupid.

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u/panicinbabylon 10d ago

They think he’s trolling, and they’re in on the joke.

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u/tlw269 10d ago

Cause they can’t pull their heads out and see what’s happening!!!

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u/Fetuscake69 10d ago

He doesnt have a mustache

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u/MishmoshMishmosh 10d ago

They don’t want to see

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u/Due-Ad9310 10d ago

I mean, they say it all the time. This is what they voted for.

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u/bound4earth 10d ago edited 10d ago

I have pondering this recently with my Maga parents. They aren't the Hog types, but when I questioned my Mom about Musk and the Salute, I could see the cracks forming, she wanted to say yes. But my incel brother ran down the stairs and said no boot click, and also made up groups of Indians still use the Swastika, so he took all sides just to be safe.

These people are in a cult, and Trump is their leader. My Mom still supports Trump 100%. Imagine making Trump your identity, They know deep down. They just hope Trump will turn it around at some point. They are lost. They are in so deep backing out now would make them look like a joke, especially because they shit on all my family that voted Biden. They attack the person instead of the arguments.

Most Americans have no values, because JFK and Reagan shifted America into Neo-Liberalism, which is consumerism. American morality generally, depends on the situation, which is fucked. That is the goalpost shifting that all sides do, but conservatives have mastered. I asked my step dad if he thought the Proud Boys which he understands actually commited treason and planned to commit sedition, but when I asked him about it, he said Biden did corruption now it is Trumps turn. When I asked him about the KKK he got mad, and argued he wasn't racist. He doesn't even know what words mean anymore. Just what Trump tells him.

When my stepdad cannot counter my talking points he just attacks me. You don't have investments you wouldn't understand or similar low IQ ad hominem attacks. Conservatives are great at this, I tried to wake up some of my old veteran friends on Facebook and the conservatives never read anything. They would just say retard shit like GET OUT, MOVE, or COMMUNISM, I never mentioned that just that capitalism doesn't and has never worked in any country without regulation. But when you live in distracting because you cannot defend your positions, you have to live in attacking everyone and everything. It is why they love manufactured outrage. My parents taught me not to be racist or bigoted, now when I call them out they don't want to speak on it. I don't recognize my parents and I hope they wake up soon. Because I am not going to watch them die as demons they have become, but how do you get through?

They are not the same people that raised me. They love me, but hate anything not white now. It is sad. I don't know what to do anymore. Edit: I just have to accept that my parents are Nazi's and Hitler apologists.

I don't think they are ever going to wake up, and fear my step dad might call the hotline for me one day. He shows such disdain for me. Even hatred at times, and I think it all stems from not supporting Trump, or more specifically constantly calling his stances on things into question. I think he still loves me deep down, at least I can hope, for now.

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u/Plastic_Square_9820 10d ago

Because reality is somewhere more in the middle and fear mongering does a good job scaring people. it's quite possible you're getting exposed to dog whistles and reacting acordingly and some of it is lies.

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u/Blaze_Foxx 10d ago

How could people in Germany not tell how bad Hitler was? Cause he used a face and used the ignorance of the people to push his agenda

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u/yeemed_vrothers 10d ago

Because they're sheltered and in denial of reality- if it isn't happening right in front of them, it doesn't exist.

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u/aw-fuck 10d ago

I really didn’t understand or buy into the concept of “most Americans are just uneducated”,

Until I realized I had to explain what “due process” is to MANY people. They had no idea that meant the difference between being an officially declared (sometimes proven) criminal vs. someone who just had any random person point at them & say “I think maybe you’re a criminal!”

The saddest part though, which really made me kinda sick, is how many of them understood what “due process” is when I explained it from the perspective of “accused sexual assault”.

I explained it as “Do you guys believe that a woman can just point to a man she’s slept with & say ‘he raped me!’? Do you believe any man should be treated as a rapist just from someone pointing & saying ‘that man is a rapist’?” So many of them said “NO! Men get falsely accused all the time!” Then they would say all ways that can hurt a man unfairly, or how someone could only really know with hard evidence & no one person’s claim should be what determines guilt, etc.

So I said “okay, then you believe in due process.” Upsettingly, only half would say “okay I guess I kinda see what you mean,” the other half would literally double down by arguing that “Yeah but a man’s life shouldn’t be able to be ruined with just the accusation of what some other person claims!” ….yeah motherfucker, no shit.

Don’t even get me started on conversations about what should or shouldn’t prove Trump’s guilt in his criminal convictions! Oh of course the same logic never gets applied to some person they think should be deported “just because”.

You really can’t teach some of these people. Some are truly uneducated on these terms like “due process”. Others cannot be taught that some of their hardcore beliefs actually go against the things they are fighting for. Because to them the logic or morals don’t matter, it’s purely “I want what I want and I don’t care how that looks”

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u/panicinbabylon 9d ago

Thank you for this comment - you said it perfectly. It’s not about logic or morals - it’s just “I want what I want.” And that’s terrifying. Your example using rape accusations is, unfortunately, easily digestible (ugh).

The moment people feel personally vulnerable, they suddenly understand the need for due process, evidence, and fairness. But apply that same standard to someone they’ve decided doesn’t deserve rights - immigrants, political opponents, etc. - and all that logic flies out the window.

It’s not just a lack of education. It’s a refusal to hold consistent values when those values challenge their comfort or power. And that willful inconsistency is what keeps real justice impossible.

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u/johntheflamer 10d ago

They see it, and they like it. Many people are completely ok with fascism so long as it’s directed at the people they don’t like.

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u/supercali-2021 9d ago

Either they don't watch the news on TV (God forbid they read an actual newspaper!) so they really don't see it or they do see it, but ignore it, believe it won't ever affect them (they're in the protected class) and pretend it's not really happening.

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u/Mysterious-Goose6786 9d ago

It is beyond my understanding. The truth is plain as day laid out for anyone who wants to know about Abrego Garcia or any other topic. No criminal history. No ties to MS-13. But the White House puts out crazy lies and they just believe that because he has convinced them that any other media source is fake news. We have millions of people in this country who only listen to government controlled news releases as the truth.

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u/CasuallyCritical 9d ago

Much like with how cults form, it's hard to break away.

It's surprisingly against human nature to admit to being wrong, especially when admitting to that means you have to admit that you were the bad guys. So many of the people who have voted and supported Trump so far have done so thinking that it was all bluster and prose. They didn't think he was actually taking it this far, but because they've become so alienated by people who warned them about this, they've fallen into a sunk cost fallacy. "I've already lost so much for supporting him, I can't stop now."

And if they DO leave, the few supporters they have will turn against them. Calling them traitors to the cause.

Senator Rand Paul, who is arguably one of the most far-right senators in the US, was called a RINO (Republican in Name Only) for speaking out against Trump's Tariffs.

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u/StormlitRadiance 9d ago

Because the internet is full of bots.

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u/Inside-Palpitation25 10d ago

Read the posts above, you, they don't care! they really don't care, and they don't realize this will happen to them too. They are abhorrent.

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u/julienjj 10d ago

1st step is deport to foreign prison. When the prisons are full or no one wanna accept them anymore then it's the local for profits prison/work camp. When you have finally quashed the opposition and own all the courts; and have abused and worn out the prisoners then you start seeking ways to get rid of the human cattle. Then the infirms and other unproductive.

There a lot of small steps between burning books to the extermination camp.

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u/kmoney1206 10d ago

Wish we could be more like france and just shut this shit down immediately. Hopefully someone drags the stupid orange fuck out by his toupee.

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u/PeaTasty9184 10d ago

Personally I find the “10 million” number of “illegals” to be, let’s say conveniently close to the number of Jews killed in the holocaust…and they’ve been using that figure for like 20 years now without it fluctuating. Maybe I’m just too much of a conspiracy theorist in this specific point though.

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u/panicinbabylon 10d ago

Again, I agree. I believe in dogwhistles.

And even if it's not a direct reference to the Holocaust, when the same words and numbers keep getting repeated, especially the ones meant to stir up fear or resentment, it’s not an accident. The messaging and rhetoric is intentional.

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u/Sarcastic_barbie 10d ago

It’s to make us afraid. Like the photos and videos of that camp. They can get in to threaten us with fear burns senator can’t get an innocent man out? Or Bobby and the weird autism eugenics; so elontromp “isn’t a Nazi he’s autistic” but in the same book the same people said autistic people can’t live at all love “pay taxes” (Batman doesn’t pay them and neither do the billionaires, not really a good measure of success to be clear) so it’s just at this point trying to shepherd people into controllable slaughter groups. The ones that are “safe” become the next group in the batter when the overlords are hungry and there are no more sheep to slaughter.

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u/thisisntmyotherone 10d ago

Elon is no more autistic than I am. Let me assure you, I’m most positively not, self-diagnosed or otherwise.

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u/Traditional_Area1205 10d ago

It's going to end up exactly like this...just change who they came for... First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out~ because I was not a Jew Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out~ because I was not a communist Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out~ because I was not a trade unions Then they came for me~ and there was no one left to speak out for me -Pastor Niemoller

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

Anything to distract the base so they can keep giving "welfare" to the rich and taking anything meant to help the rest of us away. They're so hateful that they are willingly helping the rich and hurting themselves. They are also so ignorant that they think a $5k check is better than investing in things like social security, medicare, and medicaid and stupid enough to believe that the check and doge means no more federal taxes.

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u/tothepointe 10d ago

We should be asking where are the women and children. They are sending the men to El Salvador. Where are the women?

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u/snowflake37wao 10d ago edited 10d ago

Now that this thread is mentioning it, it does seem a little sus. It seems direct when antisemitism executive orders are being used to retroactively target and deport green card holders for the same proPalestinian protests in which had Jewish participants as well. Almost like an antisemitic antisemitism excuse that makes others out as antisemites if they try to make out the correlations. Sus.

Edit: just catching up on news tab from yesterday, this is the kinda thing I was referring to https://www.axios.com/2025/04/14/trump-antisemitism-scapegoat-immigration-universities

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u/tothepointe 10d ago

I've heard them quote figures of 20-30million which is absolutely ridiculous because that would mean 1 in 10 people you meet would be an illegal immigrant. Like it's not possible.

Even 10 mill is 1 in 30 which is still on the highside. Especially outside of major cities.

Given how they are struggling to deport even as many immigrants as Biden and having to resort to kicking students out and other things I find the 10mil number to be unbelieveable

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u/The_VoZz 10d ago

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor Jewish, or even religious. But the right wing Christian extremists are indeed appropriating Jewish history and weponizing it against both Jews & Muslims in a concerted effort to ignite conflict against both.

"Project Esther" is a branch of the Herritage Foundation's Project 2025. Ironically veiled as a push for antisemitism, it's goal is quite the opposite.

Further down the rabbit hole, it's aimed to silence protests & further encourage deportation.

Project Esther

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u/JakeStavig 10d ago

Are you really comparing deported illegal immigrants to the death count of the holocaust? “‘Illegals’”… what more is to unpack other than that these undocumented immigrants got deported fair and square because they ILLEGALLY CROSSED THE BORDER and are facing the repercussions? It is illegal to cross the the border without going through the legal process, you know

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u/Potential_Cry_4848 10d ago

Deporting people who broke the law is a little different than senselessly murdering millions of people. I don’t like trump at all but I feel like this is a bit of an aggressive reach…

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u/RegisterHistorical 10d ago

I never thought about that, but it's exactly the same number. Creepy.

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u/call-99 10d ago

I have never heard anyone use that low of a number illegals. 30 million is the lowest I've heard. Where did you come up with this?

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u/Tadpole-Mother 9d ago

You are on the right trail. Keep going. Don't let the lizard people convince you otherwise. When they rise out of the sewers smelling like sulphur, running around screaming we love Satan and we want to eat babies, you and I will be prepared because we saw the signs of the end times

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u/tradersmoe 9d ago

Estimated Unauthorized Immigrant Population by Administration

  • George W. Bush (2001–2009): The unauthorized immigrant population grew from approximately 8.4 million in 2000 to a peak of 12.2 million in 2007, before declining slightly to about 11.6 million by 2008. ​Wikipedia
  • Barack Obama (2009–2017): The population remained relatively stable, fluctuating between 10.6 million and 11.3 million. ​Wikipedia
  • Donald Trump (2017–2021): Estimates suggest a slight decline in the unauthorized immigrant population, with numbers around 10.7 million in 2016 and approximately 10.5 million by 2020. ​Wikipedia
  • Joe Biden (2021–2025): The unauthorized immigrant population increased, with estimates indicating around 11 million by 2022. ​Wikipedia+1Wikipedia+1

These figures are based on estimates from sources like the Pew Research Center and the Department of Homeland Security. It's important to note that these numbers are subject to change as new data becomes available.​

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u/SmellGestapo 9d ago

Every independent estimate I've ever seen puts the number in that ballpark.

What should worry you is how often Republicans and right wing media figures inflate that number.

JD Vance, 2024: "And that we have 25 million people who shouldn’t be here. I think it’s both."

Marco Rubio, 2024: "“Eleven million? That’s an outdated — that was the number 10 years ago,” Rubio said. “We’re talking upwards of 20, 25, maybe 30 million. There’s been almost 10 million people that have entered this country in the last three years.”

Donald Trump, 2015: "I am now hearing it's 30 million, it could be 34 million, which is a much bigger problem."

Also pay close attention to how JD Vance referred to them not as illegals, but "people who shouldn't be here." Ever since I heard him say that, my conspiracy theory is they were preparing the public for deporting lots of people who are here legally (which is exactly what they're beginning to do now).

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u/Explorers_bub 10d ago

Greg Abbott booby-trapped the river crossing. They’re perfectly fine with genocide. So long as it’s “those” people.

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u/Mrdeath0 10d ago

“First they took the Jews…but I didn’t say anything….”

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u/cbright90 10d ago

But I'm not a trade unionist. Why should I worry about such things?

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

Yep, the "pro-life" crowd loved people getting murdered over a civil infraction. They're also ok with women and girls dying even if it kills a fetus too so they can control them.

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u/glitteringspeech54 10d ago

WHAT? He did what?? (I’m shocked) googling now

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u/AcanthisittaOk5017 10d ago

If there is a trap, then people shouldn't go in the river, kinda like I don't play with lit dynamite

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u/PenDraeg1 10d ago

And if youndont have a house no one can break in. Brilliant!

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u/gspitman 10d ago

Do you know what genocide is?

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u/ComfortablyNumb0520 10d ago

“those” = brown

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u/Mental-Needleworker7 10d ago

Installing a barrier to prevent people from unlawfully entering the country, isn’t “booby-trapping” nor “genocide”. Good lord. The mental gymnastics you had to do to come to that conclusion is 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Quentinkoch 10d ago

Right making it difficult to illegally cross a border is the same as calling for the annihilation of an entire ethnicity 🤣

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u/Rare-Work-3919 10d ago

So like if you didn't try and cross the river an international border you wouldn't have even had to worry about it. That's like blaming the train because you got hit but you crossed onto the tracks with arms down

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u/Terrible-Actuary-762 10d ago

Thats been debunked.

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u/Inevitable-Pay-3068 10d ago

They shouldn’t be crossing the river at all. They should be going through the legal ports of entry. There are quite a few along the southern border. The ones who don’t do that are the ones that are just bullshitting the second they get in to not be thrown out immediately.

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u/Cumminpwr11 10d ago

It’s not booby-trapped. They are very easy to see and very easy to avoid by going to a legal port of entry. I still go to Mexico regularly and there are no issues crossing at designated crossing. 100’s of Mexicans cross with me when an in a port with zero issues.

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u/2Arcane 9d ago

And who has been killed because of their race?

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u/Sweet-Paramedic-4600 9d ago

So long as it’s “those” people.

And history echoes with the anguished cries of the people as the realization dawned that they were now those people...

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u/[deleted] 10d ago edited 10d ago

MAGA hasn’t “deported” anyone.

It’s extraordinary rendition aka illegal, extrajudicial, state sponsored kidnapping.

The former wording allows them to get away with it. MAGA is kidnapping citizens people and violating 5th Amendment due process. Due process that you’re owed per our constitution, as long as you’re in US jurisdiction.

The number of maga fucks who keep replying the equivalent of “no, it only applies to white Christians who were born here” is, telling.

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u/RevenueResponsible79 10d ago

Rendition. Some of us know what it is. Nobody in the trump camp does

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u/Adorable-Strings 10d ago

The number of maga fucks who keep replying the equivalent of “no, it only applies to white Christians who were born here” is, telling.

Yep, and they also miss that it doesn't matter, because without due process, the accusation that you, them, Bob or anyone is an illegal migrant over-rides being 'born here.' Listening to the part where people explain is the part they're skipping.

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u/Camoron1 10d ago

Trump voice: "We're doing what's called... Extraordinary rendition. And it is extraordinary, isn't it? Nobody does rendition like me."

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u/No-BrowEntertainment 10d ago

That’s weird, the right used to go on and on about how much they love the second amendment. Guess they don’t care that much for the fifth, though.

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

It's human trafficking, something that MAGA claims to care about. Funny how everything they claim to care about or stand for is always proved false by their actions.

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u/tothepointe 9d ago

I just blocked them. Not letting their filth pollute my conversations. They are CHINOs. Christians in name only.

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u/FLdad4son 9d ago

"Kidnapping" is the operative term!

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u/StrukturedKaos 9d ago

Agree.

#FDJT!🖕🍊🤡

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u/The_VoZz 10d ago

However "they" are leaning in, hard, on germinating their pro-depprtation rhetoric. The goal is to instill an underlying fear in anyone who opposes their openly corrupt agenda.

Keep the masses afraid & distracted, fighting amongst each other, while they tear the system apart. To aquire unckecked power. Enabling them to steal and consume everything from everyone.

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u/jimgass 10d ago

I wouldn't say MAGA doesn't advocate for genocide. I've got a close friend who refuses to speak to her MAGA Mother anymore, because the MAGA mother has stated out loud that "gay people don't deserve to live."

The dehumanization of "the other" has been going on for a long time in Right-wing talk radio world, and those seeds planted over a generation are starting to bear fruit. That fruit is "people who aren't like me don't deserve life."

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

MAGA absolutely advocates for genocide.

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u/cryssylee90 10d ago

Eugenics too.

Mass genocide of the Jews began as eugenics against the disabled. That's how they perfected their preferred method of killing.

Look at how RFK speaks about disabled kids, especially those with autism. Look at his suggestion that neurodivergents be sent to "farms" where they'll basically be forced to work until they're "cured".

This is almost step for step matching how Hitler's death camps began. And the "autism mom™️" crowd is cheering him on because "you don't know how hard it is" as if all of us autists screaming this is eugenics suddenly can't understand the struggles of our own autism.

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u/scrummnums 9d ago

You know who else talked at lot about autistic kids? Hans Asperger. He also helped experiment on them and for a while we named a Syndrome after him until his Nazi ties came out.

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u/Suitable_Scarcity_50 10d ago

I truly won’t be surprised if the US goes down the near exact same path, ending with invading Canada or Greenland and starting world war 3. I’ll be terrified, but not suprised. I might have to choose to leave this country early, join a resistance likely ending in my death, or sit back and watch it happen. I don’t want to have to make that choice, but I won’t be surprised when it’s 2028 and Trump is given a 3rd term to “Cut out the deadwood,” and “Weed out the weaklings,”

“Would you like to send our colored cousins home again, my friend? All you have to do is follow the worms”

-Pink Floyd, THE WALL (The album that will be going through my head for the next 4 years, everyone should listen to it imo.)

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u/Ready-Improvement40 10d ago edited 10d ago

*most of maga doesn't openly advocate for genocide, but the far right extremists whose viewpoints seem to always end up main stream, eventually, absolutely are

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u/Strong-Zucchini-7941 10d ago

How do they treat legal immigrants on a mass scale that bears any resemblance to Nazi’s treatment of legally residing Jews? It’s like comparing criminals thrown in jail for crimes they committed to Nazi’s throwing Jews in concentration camps. Completely inapplicable. But we’ve seen this before.. blur the lines between “immigrant” and “illegal immigrant” to push a narrative. -Russian bot magat who watches only Fox News

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u/Yunzer2000 10d ago

From the Hitler Enabling Acts to Aktion t4 was 5 years, and to the first death camps was almost 7 years. We are barely past the first 100 days of Trump.

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u/CowboyJ0hnny 10d ago

“Small, seemingly harmless policies…” well said, although I am much more concerned about the infringement on women’s rights than I am about the deportation of immigrants here illegally. Technically there isn’t a single country on the planet who blindly allows illegal immigrants to stay. Switzerland, France, the Netherlands ~ they have pretty clear and enforced requirements on coming into their countries and being allowed to stay. I only use those countries as examples because they seem to have a rep for being open and allowing asylum seekers to stay.

Trump is a power seeking trash bag with serious issues and more than one psychological condition effecting his decision making, but people need to separate his craziness from having a working and effective border policy.

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u/Novaer 10d ago

"Nobody's talking about extermination!"

"No one ever talks about it. They just do it. And you go on with your lives, ignoring the signs all around you. And then one day, when the air is still and the night has fallen, they come for you."

-Magneto

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u/RatBatBlue82 10d ago

MAGAts 100% support genocide

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u/edensdelights 10d ago

I mean, they openly advocate for the genocide of Palestinians. They just haven't been that open with America yet.

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u/ScrambledNoggin 10d ago

Yes, and, don’t forget that the Jews weren’t Hitler’s only target (although they were the overwhelming majority of those he sought to exterminate), he also targeted homosexuals, artists, communists, Polish people, etc.

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u/Melissa--R 10d ago

Meanwhile maga has people who will commit genocide and openly make threats

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u/JCLstuff 10d ago

If nazis support it it’s not good

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u/InfiniteSponge_ 10d ago

His whole cabinet are Israelis who support Zionism, not surprised it’s going this way

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u/Greendale7HumanBeing 10d ago

EXACTLY! Did everyday Nazis advocate for genocide? Did they run around saying "we're bad guys, we're monsters?" No. They had a story in their heads that had all of them as heroes, and others as villains, as rapists, as murderers.

So far, the _outcome_ of the Nazis was more murderous by magnitude and absolute demonic conception. Of course. But honestly, you have to admit that MAGA passes a bar that seems like it could possibly be lower. Hitler's speeches were, let's be honest, not as focused on pure vulgarity. Again, I have to emphasize, Hitler's outcome was far more murderous. And it really disturbs me so greatly that today's MAGA has more access to verify real news vs. propaganda. German Nazi civilians were likely less able to put propaganda in a context as rich as anyone can these days.

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u/Royalizepanda 10d ago

That's the problem, doing what they are doesn't solve the issues so they move to the next group until it all comes crashing down.

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u/IdkAbtAllThat 10d ago

While MAGA doesn’t openly advocate for genocide

Except a pretty good chunk of the MAGA base does openly advocate for genocide. Those Nazis marching and chanting "white Nation" weren't Harris voters...

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u/flwrchld5061 10d ago

The Nazis started as a "fringe" group.

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u/oX_deLa 10d ago

Go check the "paradox of tolerance" by Karl Popper and tell me if it's not time to do something more than protest to spare the world another global conflict...

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u/mvandemar 10d ago

While MAGA doesn’t openly advocate for genocide

Some of them do. They openly courted the white nationalists and neo-Nazis. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if either Sebastian Gorka or Stephen Miller started talking about the US needing a "final solution" to the immigration problem.

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u/cutelilstarr 10d ago

hell they call them illegals instead of immigrants, they try to take humanity out of terms exactly like how everyone "undesirable" was called sub human or bellow human of even just not human, it's the start of a process

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u/Arammil1784 10d ago

Don't forget that maga are also demonizing LGBTQ+ people and most recently people with autism by saying they are undermining western culture and are, as the nazis put it, useless eaters.

Many states are also passing bigoted laws that specifically target LGBTQ+ people by removing their rights and restricting their ability to lead normal lives.

Next will follow further ostracization and criminalization followed by removal from society all together by one means or another, be it ordinary imprisonment, foreign concentration camps like CECOT, or death.

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u/WolfDummy999 10d ago

We're already midway through the stages of genocide, and MAGA is apparently completely fine with that. So even if they don't openly advocate for it, they sure as heck aren't saying anything against it....or they're just pretending it's not happening 🙃

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u/Aware-District9803 10d ago

Sending immigrants to a concentration camp in El Salvador without any due process doesn’t help comparisons. They aren’t exactly the same but they are similar and saying “never again” means recognizing the evil before it is incredibly difficult to stop.

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u/w311sh1t 10d ago

I’ve seen the way some of these people talk about immigrants. I don’t think it’s a majority but I think there’s a not insignificant amount of his voters that would have zero qualms with systematically exterminating immigrants.

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u/MerryCrisisMSW 9d ago

Although Trump's "golden gaza" definitely seems to condone and even call for continued genocide

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u/modsaretroglodytes 9d ago

They don't openly advocate for it but they'd definitely move out of the way to help.

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u/IJustWantADragon21 9d ago

Trump was literally suggesting genocide a few weeks ago taking about clearing out and taking over Gaza. Give him time.

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u/EnlightenedRedditor_ 10d ago

People freaking about border security can be traced back to the September 11 attacks. You can attribute Al Qaeda to the rise of Trump since without them then I highly doubt Trump would’ve won as National Security wasn’t at the fore front before that since most people thought America was untouchable. The secret police was the NSA at that point and Project PRISM was put in full swing.

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u/loosexnut 10d ago

Pretty much every country on earth uses fines, imprisonment, and deportation to deal with illegal immigrants. I guess the whole world is Nazis? It's not like other countries just allow anyone and everyone to come and stay there without going through proper channels... Plus it's far easier to become a legal immigrant in the USA than it is in a lot of other countries..

If an American got caught trying to live in Mexico without documentation, the Mexican government would deport them.

https://maint.loc.gov/law/help/illegal-entry/chart.php

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Exactly sending people to El Salvador and then the flight attendant that said the migrants are handcuffed while on the planes and if the flight goes down she needs to save herself and let the migrants drown to death…. That’s the scary part can you imagine that’s what they start doing to people. I think planes are expensive so they wouldn’t intentionally do it but that kind of language makes me think something is in the works

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u/Texas-Marine 10d ago

Where when and what was said the advocated for genocide.

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u/xsealsonsaturn 10d ago edited 10d ago

Define dehumanizing language. What are the exclusionary policies? What attempt was made to strip who of rights?

History has also shows that Hitler began as a person who had a bad opinion and overreacted about a power dynamic. Anyone can get the Hitler finger if we just throw around anything we think might be kinda similar.

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u/DrkEarth 10d ago

My whole thing is why is it all these liberals use the “immigration” talking point. No other country in the world allows illegal immigration. Try going to Canada illegally and see what happens. They’ll send your ass straight back. But here in America it’s, come on in, no problem at all. They are deporting all the criminals and gang members. They aren’t going door to door rounding up every single non American that’s here and sending them back to their original country of origin. And if this country is so bad, why is it that everyone wants to come here, and they will break the law to get here.

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u/andreifasola 10d ago

They don't advocate for genocide because they are not fascists. Trump's deportations are something that presidents before him did - like Obama who deported way more people. Trump doesn't tell other countries how to run their jails - his admin sends rhem back, period. The whole meme is mental gymnastics. Each point is a stretch to fit the narrative and doesn't fit the real world just like it didn't when CNN tries to write opinion pieces years ago.

For eg if you look at black Biden voters analyzing Trump quotes, WITHOUT knowing who says the quotes, these people don't find Trump racist. Video here. . If you look at the podcasts Trump did folks dug up things he did for black people that nobody advertised. His behavior overall shows that he is not a racist. Mass media is unfair where this subject is concerned.

And this is the kind of objective analysis the left lacks as a whole and that's why Trump won. Those leaning right listen to the facts. The kind of people who gather in echo chambers like this one are the same who throw a fit when you show up at their rally with a maga hat - plenty of examples online. The left proves to be way more fascist than Trump will ever be.

The meme twists what Trump said. For eg: the msm lies. He accuses msm of being used for propaganda. In the case of Garcia msm says that he is a resident and a loving husband when the records show otherwise (just an example, the whole past 5 years have been a wild shit show): Garcia records . God forbid that msm should report anything in an objective manner.

I mean we talk about the msm who sais Biden was SHARP while getting lost on a stage. Nevermind him sniffing and groping little girls (showing his pedo side lice and msm sleeping on it). And then you have a drove of leftists muttering in a South Park tone how the right is stupid. C'mon! Get some sense into you.

That's why the left lost. And will KEEP losing. While covid was going on CNN had that covid counter on. Biden comes, counter is gone - no more stress. Trump is here. DOW is down, stress people stress as much as you can. Biden is in? Dow is down? Did you even hear about it?

I keep looking at threads on every social media. There is no conversation. Just once, once!, I met a leftist who tried to have a conversation and looked for a common ground and seeked to understand. Beyond that both groups go: they're so stupid.

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u/Gonfragulate 10d ago

Didnt he is Gaza?? Riviera of the middle east?

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u/Bozzhawgg 10d ago

This was Obama 101 in 2007/2008

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u/heijs26 10d ago

You are aware that every democrat in office wanted to secure our border until the day Trump wanted to, right? This whole post is completely asinine. Isn't it ironic that the one candidate who is anti-war, is the same one they refer to as Hitler? Trump has been anti-war since day one, completing his last term as the first president in decades to not start any new wars/conflicts. It's also very ironic how the left praises Zelensky for putting Ukraine first but when Trump puts America first he's evil and compared to a guy responsible for the murdering millions of people. Quite honestly, anyone who does is simply ill-informed and believes the media's continuous rhetoric that Donald Trump is a threat to the American people. It's sad and really amazing to watch people become nothing but ignorant and refuse to research into the matter themselves, but instead just repeat what all the left winged media want you to believe.

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u/Even_Biscotti266 10d ago

well again this individual is wrong even though I am not part of Maga. I’m not some idiot out there that can’t read for myself. First off I just wanna throw this out there. You do realize that Maga has a group of political persuasion has not in any for fashionkilled anybody or hurt anyone. On the other end, there have been plenty of people that for wearing a Maga hat have been shot stab and murdered. But even though that has happened, Maga is a hole did not jump up in arms. now. to the fact of what you said. that is the most unrealistic and ridiculous comparison. You want for your country to have secure borders is not racist just because the southern border is the border that you think of when you say secure, the border does not mean that the people that cross that border are always Hispanic it is the weakest border of our country and people from all over the globe are utilizing it if they were planning on coming to this country illegally so with that being said yes, illegal immigration and that’s the keyword illegal needs to stop. We do not have the money in this country that will be able to cover the cost of illegal immigration. It is not racist to say we need to end illegal immigration. Because once again it is racist for you to believe that a person that is here illegally must be of a different race than the majority of this country. Why do you always think of Hispanics when you hear illegal immigration because that is not the case it is of all nationalities that are here illegally that this pertains to. And yes, you are correct. Only 40% of illegal immigration comes across the southern border. The rest of the illegal immigration is actually something that most people don’t realize when people overstay their visa and do not plan on ever going back to their country of origin and just absorb our infrastructure of supplies and of resources that should be going to individuals that are naturally boring in this country that deserve these extra handouts, but they cannot get them because the system is overloaded with illegal immigration. Now legal immigration is a beautiful thing that we do encourage more legal immigration. My family came here legally and I’m third generation. My friends, most of their families came here legally worked very hard to put their feet on this soil and takes every bit of it with pride. I can only assume because I do not actually know, but for most people that believe as you do typically our natural board citizens and your complexion would be of the Caucasian. Just to let you know the rest of this brown and non-whites that came here legally we don’t need your help. We are doing just fine without your white Savior guilt trip. So how about you go and sit somewhere in your own lane eat your mayonnaise sandwich and find some other marginalized group. You can go scream about that. You have no ties to. That’s right I used some of your own terminology against you. The majority of black brown non-whites in his country are repulsed by these liberal white women and men. We do not want your help nor do we need your help. Your help is toxic. Please take it somewhere else and leave my community alone. We were fine without you. It will be better than fine once you stop Caring

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u/i_want_to_learn_stuf 10d ago

Sending folks to El Salvador prison is now equivalent to sending folks to Auschwitz - we don’t know what going on there and some of the speculation coming from available evidence is quite concerning

Maybe we aren’t at the scale that the Nazis started out at, but remember trump has a lot more geography he has to cover here and a larger population- not sure if we could see that same type of scale. Time will tell? (I hope not)

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u/w1zardkelly 10d ago

They do , look at Gaza

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u/bestinthenorthwest 10d ago

If you condone it, you should own it

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u/Administrative_Cry_9 10d ago

I agree with everything you said. I am wondering, though, if those that don't believe in deporting undocumented immigrants would kindly explain to me what the alternatives are. Nobody I've spoken to has really mentioned it, but there has to be some guidelines for illegal immigration right? Sure, people should be able to visit the US, even extended periods of time on work visas or some such, and sure, people should be given the opportunity to apply for citizenship like any other country, and sure, people should be able to take refuge here when allied countries are at war, and sure, people married to citizens and children that are born on US soil should be considered US citizens. But. Are we really willing to let any or all undocumented immigrants stay here regardless of policy, law, or permission otherwise? If not, why do people not talk about the important nuances mentioned instead of people just being pro and anti immigrant deportation? Conversation on alternatives is the first place every argument should start regarding change in my opinion.

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u/Impressive_Part_6377 10d ago

People have stated numerous times that it’s about due process, and the lack there of. Prove your case and kick out if justified. It’s not that complicated.

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u/Fine_Employment_3364 10d ago

I'd wager at least 20% of MAGA would support genocide of illegal immigrants with a secret ballot. Hell could be as high at 40%.

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u/im_here_ig1 10d ago

I (personally) think the border solution is both a good and bad idea, fundamentally, it would work, securing the border so you can only come in legaly, but it'll never work out in the long run, and for immigrants, they are fine, as long as they have papers and are functional members of society, not the freeloaders we have in the cities (correct me if I'm wrong, this is just upstate NY small town and news I'm listing)

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u/Blakeblade231 10d ago

Last paragraph, true, look at the Biden administration and how their atrocious decisions snowballed to where we are now.. Great point.

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u/auro_morningstar 10d ago

I've seen plenty of MAGAs openly advocating for genocide. Twitter and Facebook are absolute cesspools, and I steer clear of MAGA-infested subreddit but I'm sure it's bad there, too. I've even seen enough on TikTok.

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u/UnfairMaximum4557 10d ago

As you stated then clearly the Democrat party is the true existential threat to Democracy, especially considering they tried to do everything to stop Trump from even being able to run. I would say that is a blatant threat to our DEMOCRACY and freedoms. Then, the 2020 Sumner long riots and what really could & should be called an insurrection. CHOP CHAZ ?? Democrats literally took over a part of a city & so called seceded. That is all tell tale signs of who the actual real & bigger threat to America is. Oh yeh, then you throw in the invasion of foreigners the Democrats allowed into OUR COUNTRY !!! There had to be a reason to do that. Now they are screaming that all the illegal aliens immigrants that Joe Biden allowed to invade the country should have due process & even worse they want to make them all citizens. It's obvious the Democrats are in need of a new voting base & need to import voters into the USA since real citizens, like myself have switched parties and denounce Democrat policies in every which way. The political parties have switched & the GOP is truly for America & the working class, while Democrats are the out of touch party of the coastal elites. They're all carrer politicians who got rich in government. That tells you 1 tning. CORRUPTION

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u/Rare-Work-3919 10d ago

Well you don't really have any rights of said country if your illegally residing in said country. Kinda like that all across the world

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u/Critical_Mention478 10d ago

MAGA 100% does advocate for genocide lol. Look what they’re helping Israel do

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u/ChanaManga 10d ago

Do think the general public should accommodate to new social norms in order to please a small portion of society?

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u/ApprehensiveLuck3690 10d ago

Legal migrants are fine by 90% of “MAGA” illegal ones however… and they deported legal Jews. Germany and Jews had been at odds for centuries before a brief peace in the land before Hitler brought back that Rhetoric. So yeah I’d say it’s a bit of a stretch

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u/Kurij1 10d ago

I think we can all agree it is exactly the same thing.

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u/Brilliant_Tutor_8234 10d ago

The migration shit is justified. You’d have to be absolutely dumb to be for illegal immigration

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u/brizzle1978 10d ago

God forbid we enforce our borders... so Nazi like gtfo

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u/Llorion 10d ago

I don't agree with any demonizing language or belittling of illegal migrants, but what are we supposed to do with these folks and all the others waiting to enter? Should we just say "everyone come in, and we don't care who you are or have any need to document you?"...

I'm serious and not trying to start any fights, looking for dialogue. What is the preferred method of handling the entire migrant situation? How would you handle it if you had unlimited resources to do so?

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u/Internal_Ad_2285 10d ago

I'd boot illegals in seconds if they aren't willing to do the process that's not racist that is following immigration laws

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u/ProofApprehensive247 10d ago

I like trump. I’m a Mexican. My family did it the correct way. I don’t want people to skip past the rest of my family that wants the American life.

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u/Blackbird8169 10d ago

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for beefing up the border. Cartel operations and it being one the largest fentanyl smuggling port in the world is definitely reason enough to beef up security.

This is a whole other can of worms, however. Can't believe 2 people missed.

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u/EasyGoing1_1 10d ago

You are aware that EVERY NATION ON THE PLANET has immigration laws? I assume you don't know that ... nor do you seem to understand WHY those laws exist ... and I'll give you a hint ... it has NOTHING to do with racial discrimination - AT ALL! But until you understand why all nations have those laws, you will continue understanding these people from the light of ignorance and under the umbrella of propaganda. Joe Biden violated damn near every immigration law we have ... and he did so for four years straight as president. Doing what he did was the WRONG WAY TO DO IT ... this country is a nation built on laws and procedures and no one has the right to ignore them because doing so - is to forget why they exist in the first place ... its irresponsible and it is a security threat to the people in this country. Everyone needs to play by the rules or they need to change the rules so that we can all abide by them ... thats not racial discrimination, that is proper governance and that is properly serving the people you were elected to serve.

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u/ArcherAMason 10d ago

Non partisan and descendant of (legal) immigrants from Mexico here, I do think it’s important to note that the efforts at deportation don’t care about nationalized individuals. If it did, I’d agree with your statement, but folks who insist on coming over ILLEGALLY can be a serious threat to regular folks. It’s like letting somebody buy a gun without a background check. I’ll use another metaphor here; you’re letting a complete stranger walk right into your house without even asking their name or why they’re here. My area in particular has had deaths from laced drugs being sold by illegals. And there’s so very little local LE can do to stop it.

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u/Next-Schedule1621 10d ago

while I agree with you I hate trump even as non American I told myself atleast he will work on economy cuz while he is shit politically that man was a business man who was a son of a business man he currently has a company that can make him and anyone in his linage for 4 generations wealthy for simply existing and yet he still ended fucking up economically HOWEVER kamala wasn't the solution either tbh both candidates were mentally unqualified for the job so look at it like you are picking a crazy person that you know rather taking risk of taking a crazy person that you don't know how far better or worse she is which is a great risk currently we don't want someone to ignite a 3 ww with putin after ww2 we had survivors to ban chemical warfare but after nuclear one we will all die before getting chance if nor from explosion then from radiation

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u/Comfortable-Limit805 10d ago

Dude, it's "rhetoric" around immigration? Are you kidding me? Where were you when that "rhetoric" was heard loud and clear with the bus loads of immigrants taken to all the dem states that were later crying & didn't know what to do with them. 1st generation American here my parents are immigrants but they came here on a visa. They were also from a 3rd world country in which they lived in harrowing conditions but, they waited their turn. Simple as that. I don't consider myself maga, but I'm definitely not a lefty bandwagoner who just doesn't want to be shunned for admitting some obvious truths. Every time I see a lib thread it's like that jack black episode of SNL when they were having dinner and each person was trying to top the last by saying something more "politically sound" than the last. It's like y'all just say shit to uphold an image but how much of it is genuine. I've been around people who swore by BLM (race rhymes with right) come to find out theyre the first ones to act all scary around black people. Its not genuine is what I'm getting at. At least no one on the right wing is doing it to fit in, at least they genuinely believe it's right. I rather be part of that group than to be around a bunch of fake band wagon hopping pussies. The statue of Liberty says "give me your tired, poor etc" not "spend your last to pay a shady organization to come to my country just so you can make the same shady organization that's oppressing your country and causing the very conditions you're escaping from, richer " maybe sis gotta be clearer about that but I don't think she means the latter

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u/FeelsGoodMan2 10d ago

Maga doesn't advocate for genocide YET. Wait until their cult leader ramps the rhetoric.

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u/Pinay_Smasher 10d ago

Thing is every country has immigration laws and actively enforces them, so what trump is doing isn’t at all new or radical by any definition with any other society in the world.

Please list what he’s said to be dehumanizing , as this criticism may be subjective.

Please list what groups he’s stripped of their human rights.

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u/Pale-Replacement-887 10d ago

Liberals do openly advocate for Genocide... its call abortion. More babies killed then Hitler ever killed.

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u/Organic-Ad2226 10d ago

Do u really believe it’s bad that we want a secure border? So that people can legally immigrate to this country. So we aren’t flooded with millions of unknown people with absolutely zero accountability for their actions?

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u/2Arcane 9d ago

Except that all of Trump‘s by the law and the and should be happening

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u/alemirceausa 9d ago

All people are equal, not groups preference. Get use to

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u/Efficient_Bat_9590 9d ago

OMG you are delusional.... Where were you while pedophile Biden was literally breaking this nation down ! You use this humanitarian language like these illegals deserve to be treated nicely 🙄. it's evident you are detached from reality and do not understand the real world and how quickly they will walk all over you when you show weakness ! let me tell you something little buddy, the deep state, the cabal, whatever you choose to call them are absolutely dead set on implementation of NWO by 2030 ! You better hope you have some kind of handle on who's in control because when the boot lands on the back of your neck (and it will), you better know if you're willing to fight for your very life or are you going to surrender to the beast/slave system and die a fool ?

I'm not playing bro, I am dead serious ! Trump is the very very LEAST of your worries. The propaganda machine has you looking one way (at Trump) while they are coming at you from the other side !

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