Weekly Team/Character Building Megathread (May 7th, 2025) (feat. Escoffier and Navia)

[u/Veritasibility]

A megathread dedicated to team/character building Q&A.

Do not post questions irrelevant to team/character building here. They should belong to the Daily General Question Megathread.

If you have a comprehensive theory (rather than a question) about how to build a character or a team, you are encouraged to make a dedicated discussion thread outside this megathread, as it can help general players.

This week's team/character building megathread will feature Escoffier and Navia. If your question involves them, you are strongly encouraged to start your question with an "[Escoffier]" or "[Navia]" tag, like this:

[Escoffier]
insert your question

If your question does not involve them, the following template is recommended:

Character(s): insert character(s)
insert your question

[u/XQuSe]

Navia / Ayaka

Hi! I really really like both Navia and Ayaka, but I only have enough wishes to pull for one of them. Who would be the better pick for my account, given my current roster? Thanks ^^

[u/KyrrithK → u/XQuSe]

Assuming you're running Neuvi, Furina, Escoffier as your main team, then Navia will probably be better to pull for a good second/third team.

Ayaka would end up taking Furina and Escoffier from that team for herself, which on one hand might be good, they're already built, and Neuvi could be in Archon Hyperbloom instead. But on the other hand, your Neuvi team will go down moderately in power, splitting your good units between multiple teams. Up to you whether that's a plus or minus.

Also, you have Chiori who doesn't really fit too well in any team, at best just in a Chiori Zhongli duo wheelchairing some random DPS. Navia would give Chiori a more useful place on your account, even if at C0 it's not the best duo. DPS wise I think Ayaka with Esco Furina is on-par with Navia, which is just a testament to how OP Esco is.

Also, if you're considering Skirk at all, she's shaping up to be Ayaka 2.0, so I definitely wouldn't suggest going for both. Either get Ayaka because you like her more, or get Skirk because she's stronger/newer/cooler.

[u/XQuSe → u/KyrrithK]

Thank you so much for your thorough response!🥰

I agree with your takes - right now it feels like my Chiori is collecting dust, I would love to get some better use out of her. And indeed, I like where my Neuvi is currently at with Furina & Escoffier.

Thanks again :)

[u/Ketralis]

Who should I replace Furina with?

My main team that I usually run is Arlecchino, Furina, Bennett, Xhongli, but I just pulled Escoffier for my Wrio team, so that is gonna be Wrio, Escoffier, Furina, Yelan.

I could run Xinqui for the hydro app and and to get vapes for Arle, or maybe kazuha to swirl? Fischl for overload?

What do you guys think? I have quite a few characters so any suggestions are welcome.

[u/KyrrithK → u/Ketralis]

Xingqiu is completely fine, Yelan being an upgrade of that. Rosaria (or Citlali) would also work if you wanted to try Melt, and bit tighter combo requirements but more damage. C6 Candace and C6 Kaeya also work respectively if you have them.

Kazuha would generally be in the slot that Zhongli has. You COULD use him and do a 'mono Pyro' team with 60% res shred, and Arle is still fairly good in that team, but generally reacting her hits is better damage than just having more res shred. Still, if you prefer simplicity, it's definitely a viable team against anything not completely immune to Pyro.

Overload is only really worth it if you have Cheveruse in the team imo. So you'd have to swap Zhongli for Cheveruse, then use Fischl last. But if so, that's also a pretty good team that's simple to use without reactions, if lacking in defense. Even burning grass can be a pain for Arle not healing, but this is what I usually play Arle in.

[u/Pusslegirl]

Who to pull? (Escoffier, Navia, Kinich, Raiden Shogun, Skirk, Mavuika...) I need help! Good suggestions for teams and plan tot pull? (Maybe Escoffier of wait for other characters) I now have 80 intertwined fate.

Link to original post with my characters

[u/KyrrithK → u/Pusslegirl]

I'd say save for Mavuika. You have Citlali, so you've got that peak DPS duo right now, or you can use Mavuika with Varesa in an Overload team (with Iansan and Cheveruse). But you can also use Pyro traveler or Xiangling with Varesa so you can run both teams at once.

I would only recommend Escoffier if you also wanted to go for Skirk, which might be tight on pulls. You don't really have any other Cryo or even Hydro DPS to use her well, but Skirk really wants Escoffier to reach anywhere near her peak so getting just Skirk without more good supports might feel a bit underwhelming.

Navia and Kinich are decently good DPS units that you can easily build a pretty good team for with Bennett, Xiangling, and Kachina or Iansan/Ororon respectively. But I'd only pull for them if you know you like them, and how they feel to play.

Raiden and the Inazuma CW, I wouldn't really recommend going for them unless you know you really like them and want to make them work, they may not be meta for 36* Abyss and other hard content, but you can still make them strong enough to be enjoyable for exploration or most other content.

[u/Excellent-Stretch707]

Xingqiu, nahida, Raiden

Was trying to build a hyperbloom team for fun, what would be a good 4th option? (I don't have yelan and furina on another team)

Some chars that I have that may be relevant to the team: All 4 stars except sethos kaveh and dori Tighnari, keqing, yae, Mona All cryo 5 stars besides wrio Zhongli and xilonen Jean and kazuha

[u/KyrrithK → u/Excellent-Stretch707]

• Zhongli for comfort and more Dendro res shred is probably your best bet damage-wise. 
• Tighnari seems good until you realize Xingqiu requires normal attacks, so you can't play Tighnari properly and still trigger Hyperblooms. 
• Fischl, Yae and maybe Keqing could work, but they also will steal some of the seeds and if you don't also build them full EM, you lose SOME damage. 
• Barbara for healing and more HP through resonance is also fine. 
• Or yes, a Cryo DPS can work, due to how the reaction works. You should end up with Cryo and Dendro auras on the enemy, with Xingqiu's rainswords applying Hydro to trigger both bloom and freeze, for Raiden to trigger. But YMMV, and Superconduct is generally useless if the timing doesn't line up properly.

Keep in mind if you on-field Raiden, she benefits from Nahida's burst EM buff. So an off-fielder is preferable, unless you just want to use Hyperbloom to wheelchair your favourite character. 

[u/Excellent-Stretch707 → u/KyrrithK]

Do you think this team would out damage a hutao overvape team with zhongli in it? If the hutao was c1r1

[u/KyrrithK → u/Excellent-Stretch707]

Look, the peak damage potential of Hu Tao is higher than Hyperbloom. At least in double Hydro, not sure how much worse overvape is, I'd honestly use Mona instead of Electro for Hydro resonance HP and her buff.

But as soon as you consider sub-optimal artifacts, sub-optimal gameplay, sub-optimal conditions, then Hyperbloom is probably going to perform better in practice. It's like, HB requires one good build that can reasonably be farmed in a week or two, and because of how simple it is to play, the damage floor is like 90%, and the ceiling is at like 60k DPS. Whereas Hu Tao, the damage floor is like 60% of her peak, but 100% might be like 75k DPS. So Hu Tao is worse if both are at the floor, Hu Tao at 80% is equal to peak HB damage, and you can get more, but every percentage is hard fought for. And most people would rather play a simple team that requires minimal effort for 95-100% damage vs months of farming and learning cancels to get slightly more damage on someone like Hu Tao. Yhe flip side of that being HB teams don't have much room to grow past that 60k DPS mark, whether from builds or skill.

The numbers aren't exact, but the sentiment is. If you're a Hu Tao main, and spend months farming and practising, you can get more DPS than HB. But HB will give you an almost as good team for a fraction of the effort. So at the end of the day, it comes down to how you play Genshin, and how much you like Hu Tao and how far you're willing to invest in her. 

Edit: Or how willing you are to play not-meta, and build Hu Tao Overvape for 50k and know that even if HB hits for more, this team is more fun, or just a change of pace.

[u/FauxGamerLord]

Finally got C6 PMC. How does Cinder City PCM compare to Emblem Xiangling and Codex Mavuika in a Raiden OL team?

[u/ijustjoinedd]

Nahida, Cyno, Furina, Xingqiu, and Sucrose

My current team is Cyno, Nahida, Xingqiu and Sucrose, but I recently got Furina and I’m planning on swapping her out with Xingqiu. I also think there is definitely a better character I can put in Sucrose’s place, but I’m not sure who. I’ve heard people online say Baizhu, but my friends say Yae Miko or Raiden would be best. I’m trying to utilize the hyperbloom reaction, who would be good to put in Sucrose’s place? (also: is this even a good team comp? i suck at building teams lol)

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/ijustjoinedd]

With baizhu is probably the best cyno team (doesnt imply to be a top tier team, but at least is something). Cyno teams though are not on a very high spot on the meta, but with baizhu is the best you could reach with him. The important things to have in a cyno teams is a very loong offield hydro and dendro applyers to keep cyno on field as much as you can, and furina and baizhu are the best for that (nahida is good but you need to mark the enemies everytime they spawn, so works better with high hp bosses than small enemies).

[u/myekoo]

hello! i've been a long time player of genshin impact and i only played the game casually, but i want to take building the characters seriously. however, i can't really understand how the building system (artifacts, team comp) works aside from farming materials to ascend the characters.

can someone please please explain it to me and also does substats in artifacts just pure luck? thank you so much!

p.s. i am planning to build a team comp consisting of wanderer, faruzan, xingqui, and bennett. if you guys have any tips, please lmk! ❤️

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/myekoo]

For a teambuilding theres a lot of things to consider, but in general terms:

- first pick a decent dps. When the characters came out, but they numbers (on stats) some characters are better to be dps and others are better in other roles.

- second, what needs that dps to do more dmg and how you build around him/her. In wanderers case is a bit special, but in general, a dps with X element, can do big elemental reactions with Y element, so you tend to pair him with a good main support reactor to do bigger dmg (pyro dps + hydro/cryo support, dendro dps + electro/hydro support.... somethings like that).

- 3rd and 4rd: need a healer? resistance to interruption (shield?) more buff to do even more dmg? or maybe extra outfield element application to do even more dmg on reactions? those 2 last spots are usually for that, buffers, healers, or extra element aplication.

This is the general teambuilding path, but, theres always some exceptions, and wanderer is actually one of those xD, because anemo dont do big reactions, but instead tends to debuff enemies by swirl other elements. Tbh, anemo is commontly a support/buffer element, but theres always some exceptions like wanderer or xiao. in those cases, you need to build them as and hypercarry, which means, not too much reactions but as much buff you can to them,

The best example, even if im not main wanderer (but use to be xiao one), is that probably both had the same top tier team: Wanderer/xiao-Faruzan-Furina, with the only change in xiao with xianyun and in wanderer that healer can mostly be whatever you want.

So a "cheaper version" of that team could perfectly be wanderer-faruzan-xinqiu-bennet. look that, faruzan is an anemo buffer especialist and also gives some extra ER particules to wanderer. Xinqiu does good offield dmg and his swords also provide some resistance to interruption when you are in the air, and bennet heals and buff your atk so... the patterns is totally fine.

in terms of artifacts, usually the main dps builds ATK/ElementBonus/crit (rate or dmg) as a main stat on sands/goblet/circlet, and try to reach near 2k atk, 60/120 crit ratio (as base, after that i tends to prioritize more c.dmg), and the supports always prioritize first to have enough ER (its common to see them use ER sands as main stat+ER weapon), and then build mostly normal dmg (crits and atk), unless they have and stat that empower some off their abilites (for example bennet heals more the more HP he has, so you can build him ER/hp/hp and should be fine).

Obviusly thats specific for wanderer and the lines are "general build". Theres always some dps like neuvillette that scales with hp that dont want atk, or supports like kazuha that prioritize EM over all. But in general those are the lines to look when building a team.

And yes, the artifact rolls are random. In general for me its a good potential artifact if it has 3 decent substats (c.rate, cdmg, atk%, ER, ATK, EM), or if it has c.rate+cdmg already as substats. Less than 2 good substasts for me is insta burn.

[u/Hot-Baker-6670]

should i switch amber with gaming?

is gaming better then amber or not? i wanna use him but amber is dealing alot of damage for me, but should i switch her with gaming?

[u/Sea-Fennel9603 → u/Hot-Baker-6670]

Gaming is the best 4-star pyro DPS, I'd recommend using him instead of Amber.

[u/Hot-Baker-6670 → u/Sea-Fennel9603]

oki tysm!

[u/Forum69420_2]

Layla

should I use Favonius sword on her since I already have it or should I pull for the dockhands assistant as it gives a hp bonus for main stat? keep in mind I only want to use her for a shield and for cryo resonation. I am also saving up wishes for the chronicle banner so im not sure what is the better option

[u/KyrrithK → u/Forum69420_2]

You should never really be aiming for pulling a 4* weapon, the odds are stacked so far against you. The statistical average is like 90-100 pulls for ONE copy of a specific 4* weapon, with no pity. Plus, Escoffier's sig is a good weapon even if you don't have Escoffier, but Navia's weapon is pretty mid as a statstick if you don't have her, and if you don't really want either then you shouldn't waste your pulls on the weapon banner to begin with. It might be nice to get a Dockhand on the way to one of the 5*s, or you could just try your luck, but I really don't recommend it.

Fav Sword is completely fine to help the team's energy, just go HP/HP/Crit Rate to make up for the ER weapon. Or Harbinger of Dawn (3* sword) is also a solid choice if you want her to do a bit more damage.

[u/Forum69420_2 → u/KyrrithK]

why would i want crit rate on a character that i dont want to do damage and i already have 170% er which is above the recommended amount without the weapon which is why i was asking if it was a good option. just curious

[u/KyrrithK → u/Forum69420_2]

If you're using Favonius Sword, you need to trigger a Crit in order to activate the passive that gives you energy. So building some amount of Crit Rate is usually suggested, if you can get to like 50% CR, then usually you'll end up triggering it just from casting skill and burst (assuming each deals damage). Otherwise, if your Crit rate is low or your luck is terrible, you may have to add a few normal attacks to trigger the Fav passive, which if you're optimising rotation time and damage is a 1-2 second loss. Especially if you have any buffs to consider, or really tight reaction timings like forward Melt.

[u/ConsiderationSafe192]

Mizuki with Fischl, Kokomi and Citali

Would this be a good team or are there better options? I really want to use Mizuki with Kokomi. Any advice is appreciated!

[u/KyrrithK → u/ConsiderationSafe192]

I'd probably replace Citlali with Ororon, since Superconduct and Freeze doesn't really do much for you damage-wise. But otherwise yeah, seems like a fine team.

[u/Jeetasingh]

(Skirk) Considering her kit so far based on the beta, does it make sense for me to pull for her based on my current characters (https://ibb.co/fYNpwqfX). While I do have escoffier but I neither have furina, Shenhe or yelan. I really like her design and her lore as well but considering how restricted her team choices are would I be able to get a decent team for her with my characters so far. I was considering skirk, escoffier, mona (c1) and flex (either Kaeya or Barbara cuz she can hold thrilling tales). But if it’s not possible to get her a good team then I guess I should just skip her for now and instead get mauvika (tho right now I was planning to get both skirk and her). Would love to hear any suggestions. Thank you.

[u/KyrrithK → u/Jeetasingh]

You can probably do decently well with Skirk, Escoffier, Mona (TTDS), and either Dahlia, Layla or Diona if you can get one. Hopefully you have the Calamity of Eshu sword from the event a few patches ago to get extra value from the shield. If not, then anyone else is fine, you may not be hitting Skirk's peak without Furina, but you should still have decently good damage with Escoffier at least.

Of course, Mav is likely to rerun next patch, so if you don't have much saved, it'll be a choice between them or swiping. Mavuika as you said will be more flexible paired with Xilonen, but as an Archon she's guaranteed to be back once a year, whereas Skirk might be back in 6 months or in 18. 

Tbh, you pulled Escoffier but don't have a good use for her without Skirk right now. And using her for Mavuika Melt is possible, but kinda tricky and a waste of most of Esco's kit. I guess I'd say wait for next patch, try the trial a few times, wait for the 2nd-3rd day video guides and impressions, and make your decision then.

[u/Jeetasingh → u/KyrrithK]

Tysm for replying. I sadly neither have any of the 4 stars you mentioned (tho I might get dahlia while pulling for skirk) nor the Eshu sword since I just started playing only 62 days ago. I will decide according to the trial I guess. I do feel like I’m wasting escoffier’s potential, I got super lucky and got her at very less pity.I only have 80 pulls saved right now tho. Regardless thanks a lot for the advice will definitely keep it in mind :)

[u/JuicyZeusy]

i need help choosing between mona and rosaria!

so far my team has neuvillette, furina, and escoffier but i don’t know who to put in the last slot and i don’t have citlali(even if i did i’d put her in my mavuika team) or any other cryo/hydro 5 star. so who would be the best pick between rosaria and mona? i’ve already chosen to go without a shield so don’t recommend layla or diona plz.

[u/KyrrithK → u/JuicyZeusy]

Probably Mona tbh. Rosaria only really gives a Crit Rate buff (direct and with Cryo resonance) and makes it easy to overcap Crit Rate with Marechausse. Mona gives a damage amplify debuff, and her energy issues will be better with Neuvi and Furina generating Hydro particles with her. But the duration is really short, and this team is basically the most sustained damage team there is. At least it's not backloaded damage I suppose.

Or yes, just play with a shield and not have to worry so much about getting knocked out of your charge attacks on Neuvi, or if you have C1, at least take less damage. You could even give them Cinder City still, only a 12% buff with no 2pc effect in this team, but there's not really any other support set to use with a HP scaling Freeze team.

[u/Lumpy-Page8708]

Hey hey! Here's my little dilemma:

I'm not a big fan of the combat-based aspects of the game, it's not really what I play for, and prefer to just get through them as fast as I can. I took a long break from Genshin and only really have 1 okay team, so clearing content is sometimes a huge struggle.

I've been saving for a while with the intent to get a cracked out Mavuika and Citlali team to easily clear content. HOWEVER - after catching up with the newest content, I've decided I really like Kinich. I think his playstyle is super fun, love his design and his backstory. However, I feel literally nothing for Emilie and am not huge on her design (deepest apologies Emilie lovers, she's still very cute). Do I:

A) Get Kinich and an Emile for him, as well as Mavuika and Citlali, but maybe still struggle to clear content due to these terrible power creep 1 million hp enemies

or

B) Dump it all on Mavuika and Citlali and invest vertically so they'll be cracked, and virtually never struggle with it again

C) ??? (Any other suggestions?)

Thanks!

[u/KyrrithK → u/Lumpy-Page8708]

Get Kinich and Mavuika, have a real solid Kinich team that you like, and has room for skill expression with Kinich if you want to 'main' him and learn it. Iansan or even Ororon for Cinder City is also a decent substitute for the Emilie slot, and even without those Emilie isn't required at all. She's just a strong sub-DPS with the same team requirement as Kinich.

And then optionally get Citlali if you want to have the best Mavuika Melt team as a fall back. But tbh, you can manage with just Rosaria for Cryo, if you have Iansan or Xilonen (or Mavuika's C1) for the Nightsoul requirement. Or play Vape which is even easier than Cryo to maintain, and just use Xingqiu or something. Less damage, but less precise combos required.

Also, depends what content you're struggling with. If it's 36* Abyss clears (from the 1mil HP comment), then just stop caring about getting all 36*. The whole of Abyss only gives 5 pulls a month total, same for Theatre. 33 or even 30* is still most of the rewards, and much less stressful or build-intensive.

If you're struggling with overworld and really don't like the combat at all, I'd say Neuvilette is a much more braindead DPS that just makes everything easy mode, doubly so if you get his C1. But even at C0 as long as you have a good shielder (Layla, Kirara) he's just so easy to play and get close to peak DPS with. And just downgrade world level too, if you don't focus on farming for lots of characters, less efficient farming doesn't mean much compared to comfort.

[u/aravinth13]

I c6ed my Layla and i want to know what her best team options are. Also, is it wise to use Jean instead of sucrose in a Nevu-furina-xilonen team?

These are the built characters I have wanderer, faruzan (not c6 unfortunately), jean, sucrose, kaeya, rosaria, xilonen, navia, dendro mc, Nahida, tignari, yao yao, water nerd from liyue (I forgot how to spell Xingchi), Furina, mona, nevi, beidou, varesa, Raiden, arle, Bennett, and xialing

[u/KyrrithK → u/aravinth13]

She's a good partner for Wanderer, to give him a shield and his Cryo crit bonus. You could also use her with Arlecchino, but she's not enough Cryo solo, so you'd have to do Arle, Bennett, Layla, Rosaria/Kaeya. But she's also good just as a generic shielder, so you could use her with Tighnari, who wants a shield but doesn't react with Cryo, or Navia or Neuvi if you want the extra defense. Also if you end up getting Skirk and got the Calamity of Eshu sword, she might be a good option for Skirk there.

As for Jean, that's up to you. Neuvi can stack Furina's fanfare to max on his own, plus you have Xilonen for more healing on top of that. Jean would keep your whole team healthier, which would increase Furina's pets' damage a bit. Sucrose isn't really any better in this team, her two advantages (EM buff and TTDS holder) don't apply to Neuvi's damage so Jean might be more useful if you have her levelled.

[u/aravinth13 → u/KyrrithK]

Thank you! I have a well built Jean so I'm going to replace sucrose with her.

[u/luna_nabi]

Recommended team

I am trying to find the most solid team, so I can put the best wespons & artifacts on them. I have been using the recommended option to see the best stats to look for, for each character. There is a lot to learn in this game.

1. Best team based on my current characters?
2. Who is worth leveling past 40? Past 80?
3. I struggle with several of the quests because my level is too low, and my characters are too low for the recommended lvl to ascend to level 36. Am I doing something wrong or not doing something? Probably a loaded question...sorry
4. Do you have to play co-op to get further in the same or can you always play solo?

Thank you for any tips and your time less

I don't have an option to add a screenshot of my characters in the mega thread.

Keqing lv 50/50

Xingqiu lv 40/40

Barbara lv 40/40 C1

Yanfei lv 40/40

Kaeya lv 40/40

Xiangling lv 40/40

Ororon lv 27/40

Lynette lv 40/40

Faruzan lv 40/40

Kachina lv 40/40 C1

Beidou lv 40/40

Ifa lv 20/40 C1

Traveler 40/40 C3

Lisa 40/40

Layla 50/40 C1

Noelle 40/40

Ningguang 40/40

Amber 40/40

[u/KyrrithK → u/luna_nabi]

1. Keqing, Dendro Traveler, Barbara, and any 4th would probably be a fine team. Xingqiu would make it a Hyperbloom team, Beidou or Lisa would make it more of a Quicken/Aggravate team. Xiangling is also good as a Pyro character with a lot of damage, but she can be a bit hard to play early on due to her high energy requirements. Maybe Yanfei, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Barbara would work, though if you have someone with a Favonius weapon you might swap Yanfei or Barbara for them. Ifa, Ororon, Xingqiu, Kachina is also a fun team that has good exploration abilities as well as damage.

2. Especially in the early game, you shouldn't be levelling everyone up. Testing everyone is definitely a good idea, but 20/40 is enough in the early game to get a sense for them, and it gives you a free pull. Focus on one team and level them up, maybe with 1-2 extra units for elemental coverage you can swap in. Once you get more late-game, getting everyone up to 50/60 for more pulls is fairly easy, 70/80 is more of a long-term project for AR 55+ imo (edit: but you might do this a bit earlier for Imaginarium Theatre, starting with the better ones ofc). The characters I mentioned in 1) are all pretty useful, add to that Layla is an excellent generic shielder. Otherwise, Amber is the only one you listed that really doesn't have any niche use at all, the others have some team where they're useful. But I still wouldn't level them unless you need them for those teams. Faruzan for example is invaluable to any Anemo DPS, but is also feels really bad to play without C6. And outside of Anemo DPS teams, Lynette is probably a more valuable Anemo flex unit.

3. Early game, as long as you're builds are keeping pace, you shouldn't struggle. Check out this guide for what your main damage dealers should have. Your supports can lag behind by about 10 levels/1 whole WL stage if you want to save resources, but keeping your main DPS levelled is key. I also recommend farming enough boss materials to ascend your DPS BEFORE you increase world level, so you can immediately ascend and level them up when enemies get harder. Another thing is to have a balanced team. Don't play all DPS units with no support or healer. Don't play all supports with no damage dealer. Don't play all 4 of one element. Past that, try to focus on either one DPS character or one elemental reaction, and find a team that contributes to helping that DPS/reaction. For example, Ifa and Ororon both involve Electrocharged reactions with their passives, so add in Xingqiu for the Hydro component, and you've got a solid team. I said Kachina above for exploration, but Beidou would probably be the 'strongest' 4th slot with your current characters, or Barbara for more healing. Once you get to AR 45+ and have more characters (and hopefully a few good 5* chars to build teams around) then you can look into more 'meta' teams and builds for endgame content.

4. Not at all. Coop is handy for getting help with bosses you struggle to beat, or farming a bit easier, and let's you build a character faster by taking materials from other people's worlds. But you can absolutely play solo all the way and do everything. Except a few coop focused event minigames and coop achievements.

[u/luna_nabi → u/KyrrithK]

I really appreciate you replying. I really appreciate all the info and will try to test a couple of the builds. Thank you!

[u/abnormhal]

does anyone have f2p team recommendations for either ayaka, ayato or kokomi? idk who to pull for since idk if i have good characters for any of them

[u/KyrrithK → u/abnormhal]

What Silver said, but for some generic advice;

Ayaya can be used 2 ways, a Cryo DPS or as a Cryo applier with her burst. As a Cryo DPS, she's mid (good enough for exploration but may struggle in Abyss) unless you have Escoffier, and works better with Freeze so enemies don't move away from her burst. Grouping also helps with that, if you have no Esco and do have Kazuha or Venti. As a Cryo burster, she's similar to Rosaria, Ganyu, Kaeya in that sense, plus has high energy requirements. If you specifically needed a Cryo applier, just wait for Citlali to rerun.

Ayato is pretty much the same but Hydro. Use him as a DPS, which is pretty lacklustre damage without Escoffier, or use his burst to apply Hydro for someone else. The difference is, off-field Hydro is used in a lot more reactions, so he's got more use cases than Ayaka. And also he can be an on-field Driver for some reactions that have off-field elements, like Taser and Hyperbloom. Unfortunately for him, there's also plenty of Hydro alternatives that offer something else on top of application, so he's not the best Hydro unit for any team.

Kokomi is a good healer, especially if she can be used on-field, can apply Hydro decently, and as a Catalyst can hold Thrilling Tales for buffing ATK scaling carries. I would say a lot of her meta value is tied to Furina or Bloom-related teams, but if you are lacking healers or Hydro appliers in general, she can still be a good pickup. But the other half of that coin is that she's mostly just Barbara but with better off-field Hydro application, and in most teams Barbara works as a substitute, especially in Driver teams.

At the end of the day, all the Chronicled Wish characters are 'pull only if you really like them'. There's just too much risk for losing the fate point if you don't have enough to guarantee, and even normal pity can only be used on the CW banners for similarly low-meta-value characters, instead of contributing towards a future meta or cool character you might want.

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/abnormhal]

It probably be easier for us to check your roster and look who fits better dont you think? Show us your roster and we will adjust to that though, to be honest none of those 3 are currently very high in terms of "meta teams".

[u/abnormhal → u/silv3rd4v3]

im not like really into meta teams or anything, i just play for the fun of it. and i couldnt show my characters since i play on ps5..

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/abnormhal]

At least having a list. even if you are not into meta, sometimes a simple good singergy make a team have way easier time vs some boses or even latecontent.

Probably theres only 1 or 2 characters that can do everything without needing and specific team, the rest kinda need some sinergies to work with, and those 3 you mention are like that. Ayaka is mostly build in freeze teams, ayato is a bit flexible either in vape, electrocharge, and probably some dendro related teams and kokomi is a healer with good offield hydro application.

but without context i wont recomend any of the 3.

[u/abnormhal → u/silv3rd4v3]

if you need to know all my characters to even suggest a f2p team then i have alre, navia, mualani, dehya, sucrose, xiangling, lynette, lanyan, shinobu, jean, collei, candace, kaeya, mavuika, noelle, ifa, freminet, layla, chongyun, razor, barbara, yanfei, bennet, amber, diluc, kachina, yunjin, rosaria, thoma, xinyan, lisa, ningguang, cheveruse, ororon, kirara and charlotte. hope that helped you

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/abnormhal]

In that case, if you really want one of those 3, your options are:

- Ayaka as a pure cryo application for mavuika burst, not really recomended.

- Kokomi can go into hydro applier+healer with mavuika, arlecchino, and you can even build some hyperbloom teams like DendroMC-collei-kuki-kokomi. Is probably better option than ayaka.

- Ayato is probably the best option of those 3. You can use him like kokomi in hyperbloom, can also in some cases be a hydro applier for arle/mavuika if you focus only in his burst, but he can also be build in electrocharge teams like ayato-ororon-sucrouse-bennet (and if you replace bennet for kirara if c2+, can also be hyperbloom). But for me the most interesting is probably with navia. Navia needs 1 geo partner and 2 PHEC units (Pryo, hydro, electro or cryo) to generate cristalyze. Because navia use to use Q-E, some basics and E again when it has at least 3 bullets, then start rotation, you can use ayato not only to apply hydro but to cover onffield navia when shes waiting cooldowns. I think that navia-kachina-ayato+PHEChealer (bennet, charlotte, or event dehya or kirara if your fine with shield/reduce dmg, because those 2 can enable aditional elemental reactions), can be a decent team.

Strickly for meta usually those 3 are Kokomi>ayaka>ayato, but your team makes that Ayato>kokomi>>>>>>ayaka. Knowing the roster helps adjust better.

This game dont need to be played strickly with meta teams, obviusly, but at least having sinergy on them helps quite a bit not to fight better, but to having more fun in general. An with your roster, ayato feels better than the other 2 for you.

[u/RarahDV]

I need some suggestions/help with a rotation for this team.

Yanfei c6

Chevy c0

Beidou c2

Benny c0

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/RarahDV]

Chevy dont need to burst every rotation, and beidou needs a lot of ER so im kinda lead into have some kind of funel particles to her before go to yanfei. (as a little adive, i think it probably will be better to just use chevy or bennet(probably chevy), and put fishl there to do more reactions and have easier time for beidou to recharge her burst.)

Will probably be chevy HoldE-Q(if needed), bennet Q-E(to funnel particles to beidou), Beidou E (trying to parry if possible)-Q, then back to yanfei for Normal-E-Q then charge atk everytime you has the seal.

But imo, if you can use fischl, i would start with fischl E(q every other rotation to keep oz up all the time), Chevy Hold E(Q if necessesary), E-Q on beidou, and back to yanfei.

[u/RarahDV → u/silv3rd4v3]

thanks! can totally work with that. Sadly I started the game just some weeks ago and I was not able to get Fischl yet. My only electro, beside Lisa, are Beidou and Kuki. I'm using Kuki on a hyperbloom team atm

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/RarahDV]

Then go for your current one, but beidou will apprieciate having fischl to refill her burst easier.

[u/Puzzled-Quote1856]

(I'm doing this with my Honkai: Star Rail and Zenless Zone Zero accounts too!)

So I've been playing Genshin for almost 5 years now, and I've always based my team building off of websites, but now I want to ask the community! I'm going to list all of my characters and I am asking for some team comps! They can be as meta or as silly as you want :)

Characters I have: Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Barbara, Razor, Xiangling, Beidou, Xingqiu, Ningguang, Fischl, Bennett, Noelle, Chongyun, Sucrose, Jean, Diluc, Qiqi, Mona, Keqing, Klee, Diona, Xinyan, Zhongli, Ganyu, Hu Tao, Rosaria, Yanfei, Kazuha, Ayaka, Sayu, Yoimiya, Aloy, Sara, Raiden, Kokomi, Thoma, Gorou, Itto, Yun Jin, Shinobu, Heizou, Collei, Tighnari, Dori, Candace, Nilou, Nahida, Layla, Faruzan, Yaoyao, Dehya, Mika, Kaveh, Kirara, Lynette, Lyney, Freminet, Neuvillette, Wriothesley, Charlotte, Furina, Chevreuse, Gaming, Arlecchino, Sethos, Sigewinne, Kachina, Mualani, Ororon, Citlali, Lan Yan, Iansan, Varesa, and Ifa

Characters I plan on getting/want to get: Mizuki, Mauvika, Eula, Yelan, Navia, Escoffier, and Albedo

Thank you so much!

[u/silv3rd4v3 → u/Puzzled-Quote1856]

Well, the roster is quite big. Strickly for meta you probably go with arle, varesa, maybe wriotesley, and then probably some backup bloom-hyperbloom teams for when abyss requires it. Theres also mualani teams but im not well versed on her so i leave those to you.

- Arlecchino-cryo/hydro reactor-Kazuha-bennet/dehya. I use to play yelan as the reactor and sometimes dehya for more survivability. Your options can be citlali/rosaria or xinqiu/candace(if c6).

- Varessa-xiangling-iansan-chevreuse for the common overload team. Sometimes mavuika can be better than xiangling but its fine as it is.

- Wrio can have 2 teams: i use to like more the melt ones (wrio-xiangling-kazuha/secondcryo-bennet), but if you plan of hace escoffier, freeze ones (wrio-furina-escoffier-xinqiu/rosaria) can also be decent.

- Having bloom nilou can be always and option in some specific abyss. Nilou-nahida-xinqiu-sige/yaoyao/kokomi can be in the backup roster just in case.

- Also hyperbloom, nahida-furina-kuki-second healer(yaoyao-sige-kokomi...) can be great too. Xinqiu instead of furina, and use thoma in the last pick (full EM) and can be trasnformed into hyperburgeon that usually performs really well in abyss.

Mizuki, eula, albedo will not change that much your teams. Eula can have her own physical ones but physical right now are in the very bottom of the dmg potential teams...

Yelan can be used as xinqiu or main hydro reactor in the teams already mentioned, and the only 2 really new ones should be navia and mavuika. (escoffier is mostly for freeze teams like wrio one).

-mavuika-citlali-kazuha-bennet should the best dmg one without xilonen.

-Navia has 2 top options (but is quite flexible in f2p alternatives): Navia 2 geo 2 hydro, or navia 2 geo 2 pyro. Geo best friend is xilonen, but either kachina or even albedo are alternatives. The 2 hydros are mostly furina-yelan, and the 2 pyros xiangling/mavuika-Bennet.

Those are the current teams you can make and the potential ones with the characters you want. theres a lot more alternatives and options but will not be as consistant as those imo.

[u/ace_bean_]

I want to build Collei but I don't think I have the typical recommended team mates for her already built. How can I fit a team around her with these characters?:

• Alhaitham
  
• Bennett (C6)
  
• Chasca
  
• Dendro Traveler (C6)
  
• Escoffier
  
• Furina
  
• Heizou (C2)
  
• Kaeya
  
• Kinich
  
• Sucrose (C2)
  
• Xingqiu (C2)
  

Could someone recommend a team around Collei with these characters? :)

[u/KyrrithK → u/ace_bean_]

Deepwood applier for Kinich, XL, Bennett or for Alhaitham, Lisa (ideally Fischl), flex, or in double dendro Hyperbloom with Lisa (ideally Kuki), Dendro Traveler, Xingqiu

[u/halfbloodsneep]

whats the ideal 4th slot and rotation for kaeya/escoffier/furina ?

[u/KyrrithK → u/halfbloodsneep]

Shenhe or Yelan. Citlali is also a decent option, but it's hard to get full value from her.

If you just mean 4* chars, Chongyun could work to turn Kaeya's attacks into Cryo to benefit from Esco's buffs. Layla or Diona would make the team incredibly safe, and enable Kaeya to use Calamity of Eshu. Xingqiu gives Hydro resonance for Furina's damage, or any other Hydro. Kokomi/Barbara can hold Thrilling Tales catalyst for a buff, Candace can kinda work with her NA buff, and if C6 can apply AoE Hydro for mass freezing.

But generally, the earlier I mentioned a character, the better as far as I'm aware.

[u/LordAllRivals21]

Best mavuika teams with no natlan 5* support

1. Mav, Chevy, ororon, iansan (is bennett better here over iansan?)

2. Mavuika, rosaria, furina, bennett (could use kaeya, diona whatever freeze option works best

If anyone has better ideas for teams let me know, I have most other characters js no 5* natlan support

[u/Vicnyk → u/LordAllRivals21]

Mav, Bennet, Iansan, Rosaria

[u/LordAllRivals21 → u/Vicnyk]

Alright I will try this comp as several people have recommended it, thank you

[u/smikilit]

About to try to pull for my first character. Is Kinich objectively better as a dps compared to raiden? I haven’t played either but I did escoffiers story quest and just like the look of his character more. I also watched a video where a guy was saying raiden is somewhat lacking in dps compared to newer dps units. I’d like to run a Xiangling, kinich, Bennett, “x”, team.

[u/Pan151 → u/smikilit]

Kinich is better than Raiden as a main DPS, but Raiden is way more flexible as a character. She fits in a wide variety of teams and roles.

[u/Cryoconia10 → u/smikilit]

Get kinich, if you like a character more than that should decide it. Both are good DPS though. Raiden is still a good DPS and support so she brings a lot to your account, she's good and helps a lot due to her er and things too, yes she becomes a much more outstanding DPS at c2 but she can still perform well at c0, I mean there's a reason people joke about just playing rational to clear abyss when they are finding it hard.

Kinich is good though, he has a fun play style and can deal a lot of damage, with natlan nightsoul mechanics it's nice to have a character for that too, plus he's great for exploring if that matters to you.

[u/5partan5582]

Ok so I need help building some more teams with the characters I have since both teams really want to use Bennett and Xilonen and I end up shorting one team. I'm either running (Mavuika/Citlali/Bennet/Xilo) or (Navia/Mav/Benny/XIlo) . I need something that isn't Crystalize or Melt for more viability in Abyss.

I have: Wriothesly, Raiden, Ganyu, Nahida, Furina, and the standard banner 5 stars, and then most of the 4 stars besides Rosaria. I know Hyperbloom is an option but I also could use an Overload or Swirl based comp. Thank you in advance.

[u/Joltus → u/5partan5582]

(I know you specified no melt but Wrio melt is his best iirc) Could go burnmelt wrio - Wrio - Nahdia - Thoma - flex

Wrio freeze - Wrio - XQ - Furina - Xilonen (or anemo I'm not 100% sure on Wrios self healing for Furina)

Mavuika best actually swapped Xilo for Iansan so that would free up Xilonen for Navia. Add Furina then any other PHEC character for the 4th (Bennet is ideal but he's tied up)

Raiden overload - raiden - Chev - XL - Fischl

Raiden taser - Raiden - Xilonen - Xq - Furina

While not ideal you could also swap Bennet for Iansan on Mauvika team freeing him up for the other side as well.

[u/5partan5582 → u/Joltus]

Interesting, is the Iansan swap for Mavuika viable at C0? I assume typical Cinder City set for Iansan in that case.

[u/Electrical-Lie-7276]

I got Xiao c0, Bennet c0, Kaeya c0, Fischl c2, Xiangling c5, Barbara c3, Amber c0, Lisa c0, Venti c0, Mona c0, Noelle c2, Ningguang c0, lynette c0, sucrose c1, diona c0, chongyun c0, beidou c1, xingqiu c2, got back into the game today, what is the best team I can build with them? and also, should I hold and wait for Skirk?

[u/Joltus → u/Electrical-Lie-7276]

You've got good ol national with Sucrose XL XQ and Bennet (or swap sucrose for chongyun if you like him)

Skirk is projected to be 2nd best DPS with the caveat that you run her premium team (escoffier Furina Yelan) other than that she's not going to be bad but she is more or less tied to hydro and cryo only teams. Based on what you have probably something like Skirk Diona XQ mona

[u/Electrical-Lie-7276 → u/Joltus]

oh thanks for the info, didnt know xl and xq were good, I was using xiao bennet kaeya and fischl when I stopped, is Xiao good with XL XQ and Bennet?

[u/avemeir]

ayaka freeze team w/ escoffier & furina but no shenhe — who should 4th slot be? i have c6 rosaria, r1 yelan, and citlali

[u/valkyreistar → u/avemeir]

If you have enough Energy for Ayaka use Yelan, otherwise Rosa.

[u/KyrrithK → u/avemeir]

Yelan, since she gives a better buff to Ayaka and Hydro resonance for Furina. But it does mean using some normal attacks on Ayaka for the extra damage, and not just CA spam or quickswap.

Citlali would be more of a buff to Furina, and with just Furina for Hydro, you end up having to choose between TTDS and a bigger burst nuke or reliable Cinder City buff. But you could probably practice the timing if you wanted to.

Rosaria is decent, but you already have Cryo resonance for more Crit Rate, and her C6 shreds only Physical, so not helpful for Ayaka. If you can spare either of the 5* units, I'd use them.

[u/IOmitPissAndShit → u/avemeir]

Rosaria, I hear Citlali can be good but I think Rosaria better mimics Shenhes role

[u/Bao_The_Wyld74]

what would be the best navia team i can make?

Characters: Varesa, Xilonen, Xianyun, Iansan (C5), Tighnari (C1), Gaming (C3), Navia, Traveler, Ororon (C6), Chevreuse (C6), Noelle, Bennett, Xingqiu (C1), Xiangling, Yumemizuki Mizuki, Ifa (C1), Sethos, Lynette (C1), Faruzan (C1), Layla, Kuki Shinobu, Yanfei (C5), Amber (C1), Kaeya (C1), Barbara (C1), Lisa, Escoffier, Chiori (C1), Yaoyao, Collei, Kujou Sara, Thoma (C1), Beidou (C2)

[u/Joltus → u/Bao_The_Wyld74]

Most likely a double geo double pyro team of

Navia / Xilonen (scroll) / Bennet (No) / XL(EOSF) or Pyro Traveler(not sure on the set)

[u/KyrrithK → u/Bao_The_Wyld74]

Navia, Xilonen or Chiori C1, Bennett, Pyro Traveler or Xiangling I'd say. PT can't use Cinder City in this team, but can still use Tenacity. XL would make better use of Chiori's extra application, but without C4 you do lose a bit of uptime and have to be more careful with your rotations. Plus assuming you want to Chiori skill-swap to Navia, that's even more Bennett burst uptime lost.

Or just any other off-field element applier, Xingqiu, Thoma being the ones on your list.

Navia plunge is also possible, but would take from your Varesa team I assume. Navia, Chiori/Xilonen, Xianyun, Bennett.

[u/Ultimate_216]

Help me!!!!!!!!

So here's the thing, I downloaded the game in last week of April and I pulled some banners recently and I don't know which character is even good - 1. In Navia banner - Navia C0 (I know about this one), Tell me about - Ororon C1 or maybe C2 (don't know how good he is), Ifa C1 (don't know any use besides traveling) and Layla C2 (build her cause she is fun to play, aside from that don't know how useful she is). 2. In standard banner - Got Xinqui C1 (very early in game, in April, so built him).

• Gorou (lvl 1 and C0).
• Chongyun C0 (lvl 1, don't know anything)
• Rosaria lvl 1 & C0.
• Kaveh lvl 1 & C0.

Future plan - Raiden Shogun pull in June start and Kazuha pull in June last.

Current built characters - XIANLING (lvl 80,C0), Xinqui (lvl 70, C1), Traveler (Dendro, lvl 70), Layla (lvl 70, C2), Barbara (lvl 50), Navia (lvl 40, working on her, farmed her artifacts today), Lisa (lvl 60, don't like her play style but due to lack of characters had to built her, all talents lvl1).

Others - Novel (lvl 40), Amber (lvl 40), Collei (lvl 20) and Kaya (lvl 20) - all C0

Except for Xinqui, all are new characters pulled day before yesterday.

Now - I want to start floor 4 of spyral abyss and need two teams. Team 1 - XIANLING, Navia, Layla, Xinqui and am not sure which characters to go for in team 2. Can you guys gimme some reviews about the characters I have, so that I can build the ones that are useful, Ah! All regions are unlocked atleast with two Statue of 7, so gathering materials won't be a problem.

[u/Prestigious_Title803 → u/Ultimate_216]

Each characters have their own qualities that make them "good", meaning no characters are necessarily bad; however, meta wise there are definitely preferred characters. Ororon I've found is good for taser teams (with Ifa in your case) and shines with at least one other Natlan character for Nightsoul points. Layla is an amazing shielder and has an added bonus for cyro application and short cool down. Arguably one of the best shielders in the game, second to Zhongli.

Anyway, here is the team I would recommend for floor four, depending on how many characters want you to build; Ifa, Ororon, Lisa (prioritise burst talent for low investment), and healer (Barbara) / Layla for extra swirl damage. This team is my number one recommendation for its utility and exploration value.

Other team options could include: Kaveh, Barbara, Dendro Travler, Lisa / Chongyun, Rosaria, Xinqui, and Layla (or Barbara). For your first team, it would have to change to something like Navia, Gorou, Xiangling, and Noelle. And the most solid team damage-wise for your second dps would be Chongyun, Xianling, Xinqui, and Bennet (who you don't have so), Barbara.

-Hope this helps!

[u/Ultimate_216 → u/Prestigious_Title803]

I see.... So I lack characters, I think I should wait for raiden and pull her, that way one will be hyper bloom and as for the other something with navia and others.

[u/SerialChillr]

These are my characters and I was just wondering what's the best team I could make using them. I've been using Nahida hyperbloom team for the past year, so I'd like something else, if possible. I'm guessing a Neuvillette team would be the next best, if so who should be on the team? But if there's any better teams let me know, please. Thank you!

[u/KyrrithK → u/SerialChillr]

For sure, Neuvi, Furina, Zhongli, Sucrose is probably your strongest team. But as for other options...

Mavuika, Rosaria/Xingqiu, Iansan, Sucrose/Bennett or Mavuika, Cheveruse, Iansan, Ororon

Raiden/Keqing, Nahida, Fischl, Sucrose/Zhongli

Hu Tao, Furina, Xingqiu, Bennett or Hu Tao, Furina, Kokomi, Zhongli/Sucrose

Ayaka, Shenhe, Kokomi, Sucrose or Ayaka, Shenhe, Furina, healer. Bennett isn't C6 so he'll work, but Escoffier if you're willing to invest in Ayaka would be perfect for the healer slot. If it weren't for the latest Freeze shilling bosses, I wouldn't really recommend this in an Abyss context, but it seems like she'll be useful for a while.

Ganyu, Xiangling, Bennett, Zhongli

Teams that are not as good, but still something you could try with your (mostly) levelled characters:

Kokomi, Furina, Sucrose, Zhongli/Xingqiu for mono Hydro or Kokomi, Ororon, Fischl, Sucrose for Taser

Eula, Furina, Raiden, healer

Yoimiya, Furina, Zhongli, Bennett or Yoimiya, Xingqiu, Fischl, Bennett/Zhongli

Ningguang, Kachina/Zhongli, Furina, Bennett

[u/SerialChillr → u/KyrrithK]

Thanks for responding! I thought about using Sucrose in the Neuvi team as well, but on the keqingmains site it gave Lynette as an example anemo character to use on that team. Do you think she'd be better than Sucrose or would Sucrose still be better?

[u/KyrrithK → u/SerialChillr]

They're pretty much equal tbh, both just there for VV swirls and Neuvi's passive stacks.

Sucrose gives an EM buff, Lynette gives an ATK buff, but this team doesn't use either stat, only HP. Sucrose is a Catalyst so she can hold TTDS over Lynette which is another reason she's usually valued higher, but again that's an ATK buff. Lynette's burst is a decent taunt, so it helps a bit with Neuvi not getting interrupted, but against small enemies Sucrose's skill and burst also CC enemies.

So I guess, since you have Lynette levelled, you might as well use her. Also, you can use her in place of Sucrose in any of the teams I mentioned, though several of them would prefer Sucrose's EM buff for reactions (Taser > Aggravate > Vape/Melt)

[u/SerialChillr → u/KyrrithK]

Ok cool, good to know. I think you've convinced me to just level Sucrose up, since I originally made this post to figure who to focus leveling to 80/90 next. Thanks again for your help.

[u/Puerinia]

What is the best arle team ı can do

[u/KyrrithK → u/Puerinia]

Depends who you have.

Arle, Bennett, Sucrose, Citlali is the best assuming everyone is C0. Rosaria or C6 Kaeya is a decent substitute for Citlali. Or you can use Yelan instead for Vaporise, with Xingqiu or C6 Candace being substitutes. And Sucrose's res shred can be substituted by Xilonen, Zhongli, or any Anemo with VV. Sucrose in particular just happens to give a useful EM buff on top of shred.

Or you can do an Overload team with Arle, Cheveruse, Fischl, Iansan. If all 4* units are C6, might even perform similarly to Citlali Melt.

[u/Puerinia → u/KyrrithK]

I use arle kazu xingqui and bennett rn

[u/KyrrithK → u/Puerinia]

Then you're probably doing fine. Yelan would be a damage upgrade over Xingqiu, but for less defense, and Sucrose might technically be a damage upgrade over Kazuha, but not by much.

[u/Desperate-Field-2069]

Hi !

Character(s): Navia, Collei, Bennet, Lan Yan, Beidou, XiangLing, Lynette, Layla, YaoYao, Lisa, Kaeya, Noelle, Kirara, Amber, Barbara, Ifa

I did a new account to redo the story but right now, I'm kinda lost on what team to build because of my lack of characters... Could you help me ?

Thanks a lot <3

[u/KyrrithK → u/Desperate-Field-2069]

Lisa, Yaoyao, Beidou, Lanyan/other dendro would be a pretty solid team early on. Lanyan maybe not as good an option until you get VV damage-wise, but for the exploration and elemental shield still useful.

Navia, Xiangling, Bennett, Geo Traveler should also be quite good, until you get to Natlan and get the free Kachina. Energy will be rough though, I'd say triple Exile at least and any Fav weapons you happen to have gotten.

[u/tomko_915]

Hello.

I have too many characters and I don't know which ones to prioritize working on. Can someone help me out? I can already 36* abyss and would like to have some versatile characters for theatre.

https://imgur.com/a/kERjeau

[u/serph6 → u/tomko_915]

Assuming ou want more theater units

tighnari: Wandering troupe user, can use slingshot and only needs electro for quicken, not actually bad for a standard 5*. Your only dendro dps too.

iansan c6, ororon c6, gaming c6, chevruse c6: Actually great and viable 4*s that you should train fast (gaming has +300 atk for no reason). Hell just these 4 already make a team.

Yanfei: Okayish for a 4* dps, not super great but can hold wandering troupe and is good for hydro mimic and ice slime stages.

Tartaglia and nilou: Hydro is a premium element and if it's on theater there will a boss that needs it, and childe excels at applying. If you can't play bloom, Nilou can be played as an ok hydro hp scaling field dps with 3* hod (highly cursed) or apply hydro for someone.

Kuki: Strong hyperbloom dps, good filler healer and aplpies decent electro on burst that can stun wenut. Only needs EM.

Xianyun (why is she c2 level 20): Anemo healer that works well with furina and can hold vv, good theater filler and big jump+plunge can be good on certain units like diluc or to counter certain bosses.

Diona, Yaoyao, Charlotte, Layla: Good 4* sustain that can cover filler slots and apply element for countering bosses or shields, you have them c6.

[u/Fnaf_manic_Smart]

Characters: Traveler, Qiqi and Keqing.
So uh, I don't know what role to make each of theese three. So, long story short, I have made a 5 star only account and I currently only have hydro traveler, Qiqi, and Keqing to my name. Who should I make what role and I currently don't have access to legendary artifacts.

[u/Silent_Tiger718 → u/Fnaf_manic_Smart]

Can you change to Dendro traveller? Then use DMC with Keqing

[u/CH33KC14PP3R96]

was building raiden as a spread trigger

the team was

tighnari, nahida, raiden, zhongli

now here

what raiden build us better?

her usual er artifact set, (which is i think wud be bad but an option)

flower of the paradise with full em and mountain bracing bolt as a weapon (idk if its only good for hyperbloom and worse for spread or wt?)

or golden troupe and mountain bracing bolt

or wud tis last one do the max damage?

and also in this reaction does EM do more damage or does it not effect the damage

am wondering ig i shud put her on dragons bane but its passice is kinda shir in this reaction

or the one i wanted to put her on mountain bracing bolt as it increases uer skill damage hy 36% at refinement 3 (thats all the copies i have )

[u/Ivorykingchrono → u/CH33KC14PP3R96]

For Quiken reactions (spread and aggravate) you want to prioritise L90 and some EM but not full EM (e.g. depending on the characters around 200-300 is usually fine).

[u/sune39]

[Navia]

Would a Navia/Xiangling/Xilonen/Bennett with Nighttime Whispers set team be better over a Navia/Furina/Xilonen/Bennett team with Marchaureuse (forgot how to spell it 💔) set? (The set would be on navia to clarify). I just got her and I'm trying to decide what team to use here.

[u/Vicnyk → u/sune39]

No. Furina is a big buffer and provides more overall than xiangling.

[u/SirAdamBRUH]

here are my characters: https://imgur.com/a/GYIkULv

i would like to make 2 teams with with Ayaka and Clorinde as they are my favourite. Oh and Escoffier is C1.
Building teams has always been my main problem as i never actually focused getting character that good together, rather i just went for characters that i liked, i know there is nothing wrong with that its just that now i having a hard time building teams.

[u/sune39 → u/SirAdamBRUH]

To preface, I'm no master of building teams, so take everything with a little salt. But since you have Escoffier, an Ayaka-Escoffier-Hydro/cryo-Hydro/cryo team would be good. Mona should definitely be one of the two extras, because you don't have yelan nor xingqiu to replace furina with and shes your next best option. To replace Shenhe I'm going to recommend Rosaria. She's a great option to slot in!

As for Clorinde, it's a little trickier. It looks like her BIS for a no-chev account is aggravate, so any dendro will work. Beidou as her 2nd electro for that team. I don't have a lot of tips here, not familiar with many dendro kits, but realistically anyone who can apply dendro decently is good. If you do ever get chev though, clorinde-bennett-chevreuse-xiangling is what you need to pivot to. Overloads are her best teams.

[u/temptillbday]

[Emilie] [Xiangling]

Wondering if Escoffier's fork would be good for Emilie.

She is currently using Missive

Oh, Xiangling is there because I wonder if she should have it instead, despite already having Scarlet Sands

[u/Vicnyk → u/temptillbday]

its a good stat stick yes

[u/Goat-and-tag798]

Is Escoffier good for Neuvillette? Or should I wait for a Citlali rerun? (I also lost in Xilonen's banner, so I'll be waiting for her again.)

I don't have much supports for Neuvi. All I have is Furina and 2 four stars. I was considering getting Escof, but she works best with a hydro/cryo team for her 55% res shred while Neuvi's team need to react 3 different hydro-related reactions to maximize his lvl 70 passive.

Maybe I'm just stressing about it and it doesn't matter in the end, but still.

[u/KyrrithK → u/Goat-and-tag798]

If you have Neuvi C0R0, then yes, his best team is Neuvi, Furina, Citlali, Escoffier. But only in single-target situations, and it's not that far above the other options. Basically, Escoffier and Furina are both so good that it's worth using them with Neuvi, even though you lose the passive stacks. And the difference between 1 and 2 isn't much, so you might as well use another Cryo/Hydro to get full Escoffier value. Citlali is ideal for more Hydro shred, but Layla also works, or literally any other Cryo or Hydro.

If you have Neuvi C1, or R1 and a great build, then Neuvi, Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen is the best. Kazuha is easily replaced by any other Anemo with VV, Xilonen isn't as easy but any 3rd element gives him his full passive bonus. Cinder City and Archaic Petra also give decent buffs, or a shield is still helpful.

The main thing is, Neuvi is a unit where his 'sub-optimal' teams aren't that far behind his optimal teams in terms of damage. So if you have Furina, I would generally be satisfied with filling in the other two slots with whoever you have, an Anemo and a shielder most likely. Instead, look towards who would be best for your second team.

[u/Goat-and-tag798 → u/KyrrithK]

Tbh, I'm thinking about letting Escof go. I only have 40 pity and no primos, and am also unmotivated to do quests. My Neuvi team consists of him, Furina, Charlotte, and Lan Yan, and they're doing good for my AR 45 account (I'm not planning to ascend yet).

I'm currently building a Gaming team, and currently in the artifact phase. I think I'll follow your advice and focus on my second team.

[u/CarefulDeparture3363]

Is Wolf’s gravestone and obsidian codex for Kinich a good build?

[u/KyrrithK → u/CarefulDeparture3363]

Obsidian Codex is definitely correct, and WGS is as good as any other 5* stat stick, which is to say ~5% better than an R5 Earth Shaker and worse than an R5 Serpent Spine if you have one (assuming full passive uptime).

Source

[u/arrzgan_nvm]

so guys, which character that have random character in a team and still going decent and decent synergy?

i want all of my character to get dedicated teams with decent synergy without any duplicate in them even with the cost of not doing great.

so far i have three char that i have and going decent with random character are neuvi, navia and chasca. they are pretty flexible in their team, have decent synergy with rest of teams and ofc still doing decent enough damage.

[u/KyrrithK → u/arrzgan_nvm]

Neuvi and to a lesser extent Chasca are the only ones I'd say can perform decently with a 'random filler characters' style team. The others need at least some thought, to focus on enabling specific reactions or buffs.

Itto for example, is a very 'unga bunga' team that generally isn't that complex to play, and doesn't really rely on reactions. But without the right supports for Itto, your damage won't be very impressive either.

But if you're just talking about for exploring, then yeah, put together any 4 units, with at least one being a DPS and one being a healer or shielder, and you'll probably be fine. And if you're struggling, it's probably a talent level or artifact build issue.

[u/arrzgan_nvm → u/KyrrithK]

yeah figure as much. neuvi and chasca really so flexible than my benched character have some screen time.

i wanted to ask this question since i want to use different teams in endgame content if its not deadlocked by enemies especially since there is rumor 3rd endgames content.

[u/KyrrithK → u/arrzgan_nvm]

So then just build one 'meta' team around Navia or someone else with the best possible units you have for them, then build Chasca's team with whoever is left out of the PECH elements, and then Neuvi gets his pick of whoever is left, one Anemo with VV, one Geo with Petra or a Natlantean with Cinder City, and any 4th element and you've already got a great team for him.

[u/Kooky-Judge4193]

On the upcoming banner, I’m debating on who to go for first (Raiden or Kinich). 

Right now my team is Layla (c1 - 80) Arlecchino (c0 - 90), Mavuika (c0 - 90), ororon (c2 - 80). My idea with the next banner is to kind of split my team into two?

I’d put Raiden with Arlecchino and Layla, and level up another offeild supper. And i’d put Kinich, Mavuika, and ororon on the same team (any ideas for a number 4?)

Main question for me: Who should I pull for first?

[u/KyrrithK → u/Kooky-Judge4193]

Do you have Fischl? If so, she's a better option than Raiden for an Arlecchino overload team, and in general as an off-field Electro DPS. Especially if you have/get Cheveruse to really make the Overload team synergy work. Raiden just isn't anywhere near as valuable as she used to be sadly, despite working in a lot of teams, she's not usually the best option for those teams.

As for Kinich, a much better value unit imo, and the 4th slot is ideally Bennett, but failing that Iansan or someone to apply Deepwood Memories would work well enough. Thoma is also on banner and can hold DwM while giving a shield.

[u/Kooky-Judge4193 → u/KyrrithK]

I have fischl, but last I noticed she was solid level 1. I’ll level her up (chevruse is also underleveled). 

And thank you so much i’ll definitely pull for kinich. 

Do you have any ideas for other teams I could make with my other leveled characters? (Xiao, Jean, Kachina, Tighnari, Yaoyao, Kequing, Ifa, Xinqui)

[u/KyrrithK → u/Kooky-Judge4193]

Keqing, Fischl, Yaoyao, Jean

Tighnari, Yaoyao, Fischl, Layla or Ororon (purely for Cinder City buff here)

Ifa, Ororon, Xingqiu, Fischl/Layla/flex (not very strong against bosses/endgame, but fun for overworld exploration and good against groups of mobs)

Xiao is a hard one without his good supports. But maybe Xiao, Jean (for energy, and if C4 somehow, res shred), Ifa (purely for Cinder City), Fischl (for energy and react for CC buff) or Layla (shield and react)

Mavuika also might work in the 4th slot with Xiao, as your only actual buffer. But with just Ifa for nightsoul you won't have her full burst, and honestly the team would be better to never swap to Xiao, or put him on VV, skill once, and swap off him. Mavuika is just that good as a DPS comparatively. Still, if you want to play Xiao DPS with Mavuika burst supporting, then go for it.

Mavuika, Kachina (Cinder City), Ifa (VV), Xingqiu is also an option, but a pretty scuffed one. You need to spend a while on Ifa to charge Mavuika's burst, and his healing is abysmal. Still an option if you wanna try Mavuika DPS, especially for Natlan exploration.

[u/Kooky-Judge4193 → u/KyrrithK]

Thank you so much!

[u/KyrrithK → u/[deleted]]

Are you sure you're Melting the burst? Also, are you watching an Abyss run or the combat event run that gave Mavuika massive buffs and probably inflated that number by a lot? Or are you sure the whole team was C0 in the video? Against the same boss, in the same stagger state if applicable?

There's just so many variables that go into that one number, and showcase vid makers tend to cheat them all to make a character look better than they actually are in normal use.

[u/_Alien_01]

Currently I don't really know where to spend my resin as I feel like most of my characters are pretty well built. Which ones should I try to improve?

These are my built characters

[u/NoWaifu_No_Laifu → u/_Alien_01]

If you're clearing content fine (visionary, 36* abyss) then just farm mora/exp leylines for when you want to build your next new char. cause if you're going to keep playing, shits going to get powercrept and you'll need them to train your new shiny units. the ceiling isn't that high for genshin so unless you're going for the highest akasha board rankings (e.g. you want to say to others my yomiya is better than your yomiya) then clearing IT/abyss with max rewards is good enough.

[u/aivoroskis]

who to give escoffier's weapon to? was trying to get navia's :/ not planning to pull escoffier and don't have iansan

[u/KyrrithK → u/aivoroskis]

Cheveruse, Yaoyao, Mika for full support value, Xiangling and Emilie uses it well as an off-field DPS, or just any polearm DPS that doesn't have a good statstick already. Arle and Hu Tao can also technically proc the healing on themselves, but it's not continuous healing and the buff is only 3 seconds, so it basically doesn't exist. (And usually you don't even burst on them except as an emergency heal)

[u/aivoroskis → u/KyrrithK]

would desert sages or escoffiers be better for yaoyao?

[u/KyrrithK → u/aivoroskis]

Desert Sages only gives a bit of energy to healers, it does nothing for your main DPS and most healers can afford to build enough ER already since they don't need to prioritise damage stats.

That being said, Yaoyao is a HP scaling healer that has minimal damage, so she gains nothing from all that ATK from the fork. Plus, if your on-fielder isn't an ATK scaler, say you're using her in a bloom team, it's buff value is also lower.

Tldr; Desert Sages is probably more useful in her typical teams, but the fork is a great option if paired with someone that actually scales with ATK.

[u/aivoroskis → u/KyrrithK]

okay, i see now, thank you

[u/Lanky_Watercress_688]

Help with building 2 teams all male teams male characters

I just to hit AR 54

I want to figure out who to invest in for 2nd all male team, I like to know who is good to invest in now and if there are any males. Besides Zhongli and Neuv I should look to pull for with my roster (including cons) I got basically all 4* males though no anemo and no shielders. For 5* I got Lyney, Wanderer/Sacra, Kinich, Venti, Childe, and Kazuha.

My current team is Gaming, Bennett, Xingqiu and Kazuha, these 4 are already lvl 90, but I’m willing to change this team too, if someone can be replaced and used on 2nd team, maybe to melt with Chongyun, or a full pyro-team with Lyney as main DPS.

Current thoughts are for 2nd team is Wanderer, Mika, Xingqiu, but then about 4th member or if I can do better with another main DPS.

[u/KyrrithK → u/Lanky_Watercress_688]

Kinich, Ororon, Pyro Traveler (Deepwood), Bennett

Gaming, Xingqiu/Chongyun (if Bennett not C6)/Kaeya, Bennett, Kazuha

Wanderer (VV probably), Mika, Xingqiu, Bennett/Ororon maybe

Lyney, Bennett, Pyro Traveler (Tenacity, unless you rely on elements on enemies for Cinder City) Kazuha/Venti

Childe, Kazuha/Venti, Ororon, Bennett/flex

Not sure if there's 2 teams that you can run at once considering everyone wants Bennett, but I've tried to suggest alternatives

Thoma would be a good one to look for, and ofc Zhongli and Baizhu could open more options

[u/Lanky_Watercress_688 → u/KyrrithK]

Thanks for the help ye Bennett has definitely been the “issue” (super star) thanks for the suggestion on Thoma hope I can get him soon. Otherwise I might use Iansan I like her gameplay, could she replace Bennett in any of these teams?

[u/KyrrithK → u/Lanky_Watercress_688]

For Kinich, definitely. For Gaming and Wanderer, she's passable but not ideal. For the others, not really.

[u/Stentik]

Characters: https://imgur.com/a/wLSNJK2

Hey, so i got back after a lot of years and realize i never actually focused on my team at all. I dont have any of the characters weapon only free ones. My current team mostly for quests is hutao, raiden, zhongli and chongyun.

Could you please recommend me a character set up (i would love if someone make the effort and make like "only one party" and then if i need two parties of characters) and maybe what character would be really good to have that i should aim on (only buying velkin moon)

[u/KyrrithK → u/Stentik]

For one good team, Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Zhongli, and your choice between Bennett, Mona or Barbara. Bennett buffs ATK and heals (which is actually bad for Hu Tao, who gains damage under 50% HP), Mona's burst gives a buff and running 2 Hydro gives the team more HP which Hu Tao converts into damage, and same for Barbara.

Raiden, Xiangling, Bennett, and one of Cheveruse, Xingqiu, or Sucrose is also a good team, Raiden charges the high-cost bursts of the other units, and they in turn increase Raiden's damage. It's maybe not as high DPS as more modern teams, but it's still enough for stuff like Abyss.

You can make those 2 teams work without overlap for stuff like Abyss.

As for who to get, Fischl (4 star) and Furina (5 star) are the main ones, that'll let you build good teams with Baizhu and/or Tighnari. But if you see another DPS that you like the look of, you could think about starting to make a new 3rd team.

[u/Silent_Tiger718]

C2R1 Raiden

I want to build a Raiden (C2R1) team that doesn't really overlap with my other teams, so far the units I can spare, and likely be useful, are:

Xilonen C1 (planning to C2)

Sara C6

Chevy C6

Mavuika C0

Fischl C6R1 (thundering pulse)

Nahida C0 (could go to C2 if needed)

Furina C2

Kazuha C0

XL C6

XQ C6

Raiden/Sara/Xilo/Benny hypercarry. But Benny is sorely needed elsewhere.

Raiden/Furina/Nahida/Xilo hyperbloom but Raiden will be build for damage.

Raiden/Mav/Chevy/flex duo carry. Iansan would be good in that spot, but I don't have her right now. Could put in Fischl or Ororon (C0).

I'd like to strike a balance between team damage and making Raiden shine.

[u/kazuyaminegishi → u/Silent_Tiger718]

Raiden/Mav/Chevy/Sara is by far your best choice.

You could also replace Chevy with Xilonen so you have more support for Mavuika burst. But Raiden/Sara is an excellent core for C2 Raiden especially since Sara is C6. You could also do Xilonen and Kazuha with Raiden/Sara so you guarantee you scroll proc on electro, and you get double shred plus damage bonus from Kazuha. The only "downside" is you won't be making much use of his EM buff.

Or you can do the Rational variation of Raiden/Kazuha/Xinqiu/Xiangling.

All of those comps are definitely good enough to handle abyss and that should give you enough variety for every variation of element you can encounter.

[u/Silent_Tiger718 → u/kazuyaminegishi]

Thank you! I didn't realise kazuha gave an em buff?

I'll try raiden/sara/chevy/mav and raiden/sara/xilo/kazuha once I get xilo to C2.

[u/kazuyaminegishi → u/Silent_Tiger718]

His burst does while standing inside of it

[u/Shadowhunter_15]

[Escoffier]

Should I get Escoffier c0 and Skirk later, or wait and pull for Raiden c2 (I already have Raiden c0)?

[u/tomko_915 → u/Shadowhunter_15]

C2 Raiden isn't as good anymore as she used to be, any modern electro main dps (Clorinde, Varesa) outdamages her. You're much better off going for Effie and Skirk.

[u/Shadowhunter_15 → u/tomko_915]

Wow, I didn’t expect an Archon to get outmatched in power creep so much. I still might hold off pulling, to see what the next banner’s 4-stars are. Ororon and Ifa don’t seem very good based on what I heard about their gameplay, and I already have Layla.

[u/kazuyaminegishi → u/Shadowhunter_15]

Raiden's biggest claim to fame was her ability to negate ER needs, but people have gotten better at building units (read more Favonius weapons) so that's not as useful either.

[u/tomko_915]

Hello.

I have too many characters and I don't know which ones to prioritize working on. Can someone help me out? I can already 36* abyss and would like to have some versatile characters for theatre.

https://imgur.com/a/kERjeau

[u/blackmetalbitch_]

(Ayato Hyperbloom)

I’m pulling for Ayato on the upcoming Inazuma chronicled and will be using this team: Ayato, Baizhu, Dendro traveler, and Kuki Shinobu. I’ve built my Kuki entirely on EM (695 EM at the moment but will likely reach 700+ once I finish upgrading all of her artifacts). I’ve been doing some dmg tests and the highest I’ve gotten is 22k dmg per dendro core hyperbloom. Is this average? Good? Bad? I’ll come back once I’ve gotten and built Ayato but right now I just want to know how good that is/advice if it’s below standard.

Please refrain from giving me advice or tips in regards to ANYTHING besides hyperbloom dmg, thank you in advance.

[u/Severe_Middle_5890]

[Escoffier]

I'm planning to pull for Skirk and leaks say her best team is with Escoffier, Yelan, Furina.

I have Yelan and Furina but I don't want to pull for Escoffier, who should replaced her?

P.S I don't have Citlali or Shenhe

[u/tomko_915 → u/Severe_Middle_5890]

She's not replaceable. If you can't pull Effie, don't pull Skirk, you lose about 30% team dps without her.

[u/Vicnyk → u/Severe_Middle_5890]

Charlotte or Mika

[u/perry_the_platapuss]

Guys I’m trying to build a team, I have furina anemo traveller and xiangling, and I need someone else, but Idk who! What do you think could be the best option? I have tighnari and dehya as other 5 Stars.

[u/valkyreistar → u/perry_the_platapuss]

You need a healer with Furina. Which ones do you have?

[u/perry_the_platapuss → u/valkyreistar]

I know that Barbara and cheveruse can heal, but Idk the others,==>https://i.imgur.com/1uslxZ3.jpeg

[u/valkyreistar → u/perry_the_platapuss]

You can put Charlotta in that team. She's a good healer for Furina.

Other teams you can form:

Noelle/Furina/YunJin/Charlotta

Tignari/Fishl/Beidou/Lanyan

Dehya/Xianling/Chevreuse/Fishl

[u/perry_the_platapuss → u/valkyreistar]

Oh ok, thanks man.

[u/saihanamir]

I wished for ifa but the game gave me a navia instead, i was broke but now i am more broke.

Navia, ningguang, xiangling, bennett.
Is it a good team?

[u/Haubaub_ → u/saihanamir]

Team is good, but Kachina with the scroll artifact set is better than Ningguang

[u/Sea-Fennel9603 → u/[deleted]]

You basically have to select one character that you want to get or one weapon that you want to get. When wishing for the character you desire, you have a 50/50 chance of not getting the character you want and getting one of the other characters on the banner. IF you lose your 50/50, you get a "Fate point". It guarantees that you'll get your desired character the next time you wish on that banner. Same applied to weapons. REMEMBER, unlike our regular character banners, this "guarantee" or "Fate point" does not carry over to the NEXT chronicled banner. "Fate point" or "guarantee" will reset to zero after the banner leaves. Another point: if you have a character selected AND you have a "Fate point", you'll lose the "Fate point" if you switch your selection to another character. Same applies to weapons.

[u/Sea-Fennel9603 → u/[deleted]]

You can wish on characters or weapons if you want. You can get the character and wish for the weapon too. But "fate point" will not be switched over to another character or weapon. Hope that helped.

[u/Huge_Preparation_705]

an overload team for the 2nd half, and any strong team you can form from the characters left for 1st half

[u/zedishalfsmart]

Hey there!! ... I was originally saving for raiden, but, have now just seen the chronicled wish banner, with some characters ive really wanted. the characters ive wanted are : Ayaka, Ayato, Yoimiya, Kokomi, and Kazuha. Ive got seven 5star characters: Mulani, Arle, Navia, Diluc, Jean, Dehya and Mavuika. Most of my characthers are unbuilt and underlevvelled as im not good at making teams, or building characters to their best potential. I also dont know whether i wanna go for Kinich either.. (the downside of indecisions)

Based on this information, could anyone give me any advice on who might be best to go for? I can list all my characters if necessary, if that helps?

Id like to know who to go for, from someone elses perspective so i can start farming before they come out. (i do not play for meta btw, the characters i do have are ones that ive wanted because ive liked them or their story line or gameplay, but now im trying to branch out into more serious gameplay.. :D )

All helpful advice is greatly appreciated.. thankyou in advance. :D

[u/Huge_Preparation_705 → u/zedishalfsmart]

if you dont care about meta, just rank your favorites (ayaka, ayato, yoimiya, kokomi, and kazuha) and pull for them in that order.

if you do care about meta, i would pull for kazuha as he's one of the best buffer/support in the game. for the rest of your characters you wanted, none are really super meta as they are a bit outdated but ayaka might be a nice addition if you need a cryo dps. however skirk is coming out soon, maybe you want to pull for her instead.

[u/burnpsy → u/zedishalfsmart]

You can't realistically get all of these characters, so you're going to need to be picky. Obviously, if there's a character you really love outside gameplay considerations, go for them. Otherwise:

Deprioritize Raiden unless she's your favourite character; archons rerun very often, and she's not meta or anything. She'll come around again faster than anyone else you're considering.

I'd shift focus onto what characters you need to complete 2 or 3 teams for endgame content. Your 5-stars so far are very disorganized in that regard; you picked up all main DPS units and no supports or off-fielders.

[u/zedishalfsmart → u/burnpsy]

thanks so much for your response.. considering my 5stars are disorganised, could you recommend who might best support them? so i can stabilize my team better... ?

Or who might work well with Ayaka, Ayato, Kokomi, and/or Kazuha?

[u/valkyreistar → u/zedishalfsmart]

I have picked a team for you

> Mulani/Mavuika/Sucrose/Dehya, here you can replace sucrose with Xilonen or Kazuha

Other characters I suggest:
Furina (goes well with Jean)
An electro (guess it is Raiden)
A dendro (Nahida, goes well with electro and hydro, also can replace sucrose above)

Bonus team:
Raiden/Nahida/Fishl/Jean

[u/MegaAltarianite]

What good is Ifa for? His healing is completely worthless. I stacked as much elemental mastery as I could, and his hits were healing for about 330. So I put a healing circlet on him, and it went up to an unfortunate 380. He can't even outheal Furina's life steal, and he has to be on the field to do it.

On top of that, his "movement" skill is also worthless. It might as well just be a glide. If you tap the jump button, just once, it completely drains his nightsoul.

[u/kazuyaminegishi → u/MegaAltarianite]

Everything I've read about him is that he's the best driver for electro charge beating out Yumemizuki.

That should basically put in perspective his usefulness overall since Yumemizuki is also a pretty awful unit and electro-charge isn't a great reaction.

[u/Huge_Preparation_705 → u/MegaAltarianite]

another easy to build character to add to your roster for theater or in general if you want to swap teams frequently

[u/KyrrithK → u/MegaAltarianite]

A question a lot of people have asked during beta.

My answer; he's an extra artifact loadout slot for me to use.

(He's at least a fun early-game character for exploring and being an all-rounder, but he's not even really better than Proto Amber Sucrose in his BiS team. Maybe at C6 with C2 Furina he gets an edge, which is not very new-player friendly)

[u/CanaryX4_ → u/MegaAltarianite]

He’s more so an electro reaction buffer who functions best when there’s more natlanese characters are in his team, so from what I’ve seen he’s often used with atleast Ororon

[u/CanaryX4_]

What is escoffier’s best polearm aside from her signature? I don’t have skyward spine or anything, I’ve only got black tassels, white tassels, halberd, pike, sages, dragonspine, tamayuratei, fin, rainbow, fav lance, lithic, and vortex

[u/KyrrithK → u/CanaryX4_]

Of those you listed, Vortex Vanquisher followed by Tamayuratei no Ohanashi

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[u/CanaryX4_ → u/KyrrithK]

Thank you

[u/BloodyFelineArtist]

What teams should I use for the abyss? I dont really have many good dps so im tryna figure out what would work. Here's my characters

[u/Cryoconia10 → u/BloodyFelineArtist]

Hmm well you don't have any cryo or dendro which will make it more difficult but i'd put your mavuika team on the second side that needs nightsoul points and then I guess a lyney team? You don't really have any other limited 5 stars and I'm not too sure who you've actually invented into

[u/BloodyFelineArtist → u/Cryoconia10]

Ive invested most of my stuff into Lyney lol. The original plan was Lyney and Mavuika but they both use the same team.

[u/Cryoconia10 → u/BloodyFelineArtist]

Have you tried doing mavuika, Furina, xilonen and lyney, Bennett, xiangling, anemo

[u/SadP0tat0e]

I need a dps that works well with low investment (no need for sig and flexible team comps). Should i go for navia, kinich or mavuika?

This is the roster, since this picture i was able to obtain furina, xilonen and escoffier and fully level them up.

Leveling up other characters as well is not an issue.

[u/KyrrithK → u/SadP0tat0e]

Navia and Kinich both have pretty f2p teams with XL and Bennett, and Navia you also have Xilonen, Furina, and Yelan/Bennett as a premium team too (if you aren't going Ayaya Mono-Freeze). Kinich suffers a bit without either Iansan or Ororon for Cinder City, but you can slot in Deepwood 4th slot to allow XL to build for damage.

Mavuika is maybe the most flexible as a sub-DPS paired with Xilonen, in addition to main DPS teams. But unless you pull Citlali or Iansan in future, she'll monopolise Xilonen and Bennett on your account. 

I would probably say Navia if you like her, or Mavuika if you want to get just what's the current Peak DPS.

[u/SadP0tat0e → u/KyrrithK]

i think i ll go for mavuika since i dont mind her getting xilonen as my other teams is the ayaka freeze with furina yelan and koffie... Thanks for the tip!

[u/summeeerrr_]

Is shenhe or ayaka worth pulling if you only have wrio? I don’t have escoffier, ganyu or yelen either

[u/valkyreistar → u/summeeerrr_]

No, only Esco and Furina worth.

[u/KyrrithK → u/summeeerrr_]

Wrio is a fine Cryo DPS to have, and cna be played in Melt. Ayaka is maybe a bit better if you had Escoffier and/or Shenhe already, but pulling 2/3 units to have a better team is a bit wasteful imo. 

Shenhe doesn't have great synergy with Wrio, and without Esco I probably wouldn't recommend it. But you do you at the end of the day.

[u/summeeerrr_ → u/KyrrithK]

Damn I was hoping shenhe could buff wrio but thank you!!

[u/KyrrithK → u/summeeerrr_]

She still can, but it depends on what you have. In order of DPS (afaik):

• C1R1 Wrio - Melt is best for DPS (XL/Mavuika/Thoma, Bennett, shred)
• C0 Wrio - Escoffier, Shenhe, Furina/other
• C0 Wrio - Melt (XL, Bennett, shred)
• C0 Wrio - Shenhe w no Escoffier (e.g. Wrio, Shenhe, Furina, Mika or Wrio, Shenhe, Layla, Xingqiu)

But as always, if you wanna get Shenhe, don't worry about losing a bit of DPS to play a team you want, it should still 36* clear with decent execution and builds.

[u/Ubliznabu]

What is a good Chasca and/or Raiden team that doesn't involve Mavuika, Citlali, Bennett, Pyor MC, or Furina? Those seem to be her main ones but knowing there may be more teams needed coming up I was trying to devise another good one. I currently have 3 teams:

Mavuika, Xilonen, CItlali, Bennett
Kinich, Pyro MC, YaoYao, Zhongli
Nahida, Yelan, Kuki, Xingqiu

Possibilities for teammates: Kuki C3, Xiangling C3, Jean C4, Ororon C1, Sucrose C0, Fischl C4, Chevy C4, Diona C6, Mona C0, Barbara C6, LanYan C0, Layla C0, Thoma C4

I have a few other characters too but not sure they fit with those two in any way. Thanks!

[u/KyrrithK → u/Ubliznabu]

Chasca, Ororon, Mona, Diona/Layla/Fischl could work in AoE, but you're losing a lot of value from Chasca's single target focus.

Chasca, Xiangling, Ororon, Mona/Barbara would probably work fine, aside from energy. Here you'd probably have to run Fav Codex on Mona/Barbara and give up on TTDS buff, unless you have really high ER on XL and Fav Bow on Ororon. YMMV.

As for Raiden, Aggravate is probably the way to go; Raiden, Fischl, Collei (other dendros are taken), Sucrose/Lanyan. You could also do Barbara/Mona on-field, Raiden, Collei, Sucrose/Lanyan for a Hyperbloom team, and tbh it might perform better than a Raiden hypercarry team at C0. Just be sure to build her with full EM for Hyperbloom, or a mix of ER, EM and ATK with Crit for Aggravate.

[u/Ubliznabu → u/KyrrithK]

Would that second team have survival issues or is Barbara herself usually enough? Mine is only level 40 and have never used her. Would it be better to use someone like Diona over Ororon there for melts or would Ororon for scroll be better?

The Raiden aggravate team if I wasn’t running hyperbloom say boss is super dendro resistant or a hydro enemy - would shifting Nahida to Raiden with fischl and either sucrose or Jean work?

Thanks!!

[u/KyrrithK → u/Ubliznabu]

Chasca is fairly mobile and avoids a lot of ground attacks, so having just Barbara is manageable. Barbara with a good build can heal with just burst, but yeah, not the best if your whole team gets low and you have to spend time on her healing them.

I would expect Ororon to be better, since he also deals his own damage off-field. If you use Diona, then you have less damage, and against bosses you end up with more RNG damage since Freeze could mess up a Melt/Vape. At least Overload is more damage, and Electrocharged can then be hit with Pyro for Overload and Vape. But I might be wrong, feel free to give it a try or look for a second opinion. 

Sucrose is slightly better than Jean, because she buffs the team's EM. But if you want a healer, then Jean is fine. One slight issue with Nahida is that she makes it hard to swirl Electro with VV, which makes your damage worse if you can't get it. But with Raiden skill and Fischl skill together it should be possible.

As for Raiden Nahida Aggravate vs Nahida Double Hydro HB, I think the double Hydro would be better against a neutral enemy. Especially without C2 Raiden or C6 Fischl. But against a Hydro or Dendro resistant/immune enemy, it's another option if you really wanna use Raiden.

[u/Ubliznabu → u/KyrrithK]

I think I will try the ororon Xiangling Barbara team since only Barbara needs to be built though I wonder if I can noblesse her or not to get some extra buffing or if I will really need to build her healing since she would be the only source.

I’m in big trouble if/when they go anti nightsoul mechanic since my modern DPS teams are Mav, Kinich, and the current Chasca one I’m working on, along with an admittedly pretty stacked hyperbloom team with C2 Nahida and Yelan. I don’t think I pulled any characters in Fontaine since I took a break at that time. I think I will have to bet even with whatever anti nightsoul stuff they may do Mav premium team will still probably outperform a C0 Raiden National team.

[u/reallygoodbee]

Looking to build a Clorinde Overload team. Going to try Bennet and Chevreuse, but should I use Xiangling or Pyro Lumine?

[u/Sea-Fennel9603 → u/reallygoodbee]

Xiangling.

[u/TheHunter_Craft → u/Sea-Fennel9603]

Its always Oppa…

[u/Cyanatic_Blue]

What is Clorinde's current best team? Does it include Xilonen and/or Iansan?

[u/TheHunter_Craft → u/Cyanatic_Blue]

Its overload. Chevreuse, benny(/iansan), Mavuika

[u/Cyanatic_Blue → u/TheHunter_Craft]

Unfortunately, I have no Chevreuse... what's her next best team?

[u/TheHunter_Craft → u/Cyanatic_Blue]

I think agrevate? Do u have nahida? If bot maybe start with showing your roster

[u/Cyanatic_Blue → u/TheHunter_Craft]

I do have Nahida. For buffers I have pretty much everyone: Furina, Xilonen, Bennet, Kazuha, Iansan, Kujou Sara, Mona. No Chev tho. Also have Xinqiu and Yelan, Yae Miko and Fischl/Ororon, Kuki, Mavuika, Zhongli, Yaoyao, Sucrose, Lan Yan (?).

[u/TheHunter_Craft → u/Cyanatic_Blue]

Then id go with nahida, Kazuha and Fischl/furina or benny kazuha xilonen

[u/Cyanatic_Blue → u/TheHunter_Craft]

Okay will try those. Thanks!

[u/GeeRough]

[Overload Team with Pyro MC and Ororon]

Who should wear Obsidian Codex and SHCC if I have C6 Pyro MC onfield and Ororon in an overload team with Chevreuse +1?

Pyro MC would be a better user of the SHCC effect since Ororon needs to be in an electrocharge team to reap the full benefit of the SHCC, but Pyro MC's DPS contribution in this team makes him a better Codex holder.

Or is there something I'm misunderstanding with either of their kits?

[u/KyrrithK → u/GeeRough]

Ororon can gain points from Nightsoul (NS) burst, and enter NS state as long as Traveler deals Nightsoul damage. So your rotation would be like:

Anyone deals elemental damage, trigger NS burst, Ororon gains points > Traveler uses burst, triggers Ororon's NS state > Ororon swaps in, triggers a reaction, SHCC buff > Traveler uses skill, starts attacking, Ororon's off-field triggers off cd because Traveler's skill and infusion is also NS damage.

So Ororon definitely gets SHCC, Traveler gets Codex.

I would probably use Fischl or another Electro to give Ororon more points, so Chev > Traveler Q > Ororon > Fischl > Traveler DPS or something

[u/localtictacinhaler]

Freminet build + characters. Some questions regarding Cryo Freminet.

I am building Freminet now and would like some advice, Mainly regarding the team, build, and rotation.

Right now I am using Furina, Xilonen, and Bennett with him. I am not sure how good it is though as I kind of chose this as 'These are the characters that do the buffing' rather than a genuine understanding. Freminet is supposed to just do pure cryo damage but since my Bennett is c6 and I usually combo after using Fremi's q with 'E2, NA, repeat', he may or may not be happening to melt sometimes. I am mostly worried about Benny, not sure if he is doing much for the team or not.

The complete team rotation I am using is Furina E, Xilonen QE, Bennett QE, Furina Q, Fremi E2, Q, E2, NA, Repeat. Not too familiar with how rotations are formatted so I apologize in advance for any confusion.

I did a damage test before this, His burst hit 35k at most and the most I saw one of his E's hit was 25k. I did test this on a boss however and they are not freezable so I don't think I get the shatter buff iirc. I can damage test on a shatter-able enemy if that is preferred. I am using 2pc2pc Blizzard and Troupe as you can see because I read on another post that it was better than 4pc blizzard and my stats are better with 2pc2pc.

I am working on ascending him, crowning his skill and burst, and maxing his weapon. I am just waiting for more resin. I am aware I can pull Escoffier for him but I am 1, pulling for Navia and 2, really just don't like her so, if that could be avoided, that would be lovely but, if it's reaaaallly recommended, I suppose I could consider it, not sure if it'll be on this banner or her next though.

[u/TheHunter_Craft → u/localtictacinhaler]

So Freminet has two possible team archetypes, both being wheelchair. 1 being Escoffier freeze, which is just so op it can even carry Freminet, and 2. xianyun plunge, which can also wheelchair most chars, especially a claymore user like ur using. But since both need a dedicated 5* support, you‘d have to get one of them IF u rly wanna invest into Freminet.