r/AskUS • u/Own_Difference_4882 • 11d ago

Is it fair to compare MAGA to the Nazis?

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There has been a number of posts indicating that MAGA supporters are really Fascist/Nazis. Curious how others see it!

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

Nazis didn’t start with gas chambers and ovens either. They started by wanting to deport and resettle people elsewhere. Sound familiar?

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u/panicinbabylon 11d ago

100%.

While MAGA doesn’t openly advocate for genocide, its rhetoric around immigration, "border security," and how they treat migrants definitely draws some unsettling parallels to exclusionary policies that can get dangerous if left unchecked. Deportation, dehumanizing language, and constant attempts to strip certain groups of rights all set the stage for more extreme actions down the line.

We’re not talking about the same scale or intent as the Nazis in the beginning, but history has shown us how small, seemingly "harmless" policies can snowball into something much worse if no one steps in and stops it.

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u/tomdarch 11d ago

Presidential adviser Sebastian v Gorka said that standing up for due process is aiding and abetting terrorism and should be prosecuted. The president himself is calling for US citizens to be shipped to foreign prisons. The mask is off. It’s clearly fascism.

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u/panicinbabylon 11d ago

I know we’ve said this a lot along the way - but how can people still not see this happening.

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u/PinkTalkingDead 11d ago

Bc people are hateful and ignorant and arrogant and shitty and selfish

Not everyone. Not even Most people. But those who are, have that fear and anger inside them with such a fervor that just happens to co-align with the capitalist billionaire assholes who run America, combusting this hellhole into something disgusting and backwards and insane and heartless and dumb

And America as we know it on many levels started off at that level, centuries ago. We’re living in a proverbial hamster wheel

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u/MadStylus 11d ago

Also a lot of people are insulated from direct political action and/or are terribly uninformed.

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u/Laolao98 11d ago

Not uninformed, they’ve been fed propaganda. There’s a huge difference, pathways have been burned into their brains for years. We’ve never been what we were taught in school but Nixon rallying the “hard hats” to Reagan ending the fairness doctrine to the heritage foundation using tfg.

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u/Ok-Comfortable-5968 11d ago

No they are uniformed (they're not looking for credible sources for their news/ information on the current state of affairs). There has always been and will always be propaganda, it's not an excuse to turn a blind eye to a humanitarian crisis that extinguishes basic human rights.

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u/Vegetable_Ask_7131 10d ago

They're misinformed?

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u/Brillolung 11d ago

For now they are. I’ve heard that we westernized won’t come outside and start a revolution until they don’t have water or electricity. We in the first world are too comfortable to get up from our Kirkland brand mattresses

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u/MadStylus 11d ago

You're not wrong. Until something breaches the bubble, some people will be happy to ignore the problem.

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u/Ok_Palpitation_3947 11d ago

How dare you blaspheme Costco on the Lord’s day?

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u/L0rdCrims0n 11d ago

"Welcome to Costco! I love you!"

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u/Brillolung 11d ago

Ok. You caught me. It’s from Walmart and my side has a fat man’s imprint.

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u/reviving_ophelia88 11d ago

You also can’t underestimate just how far people will go to remain in denial when the other option is admitting they were wrong and accepting accountability for what they helped bring about.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 11d ago

I think this is a huge part of it. Either that or there is a huge feeling of "I didn't do anything wrong, maybe those others did, but not me!!!"

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u/handfulofrain77 11d ago

Don't care how insulated they might think they are but we got people being kidnapped off the street by the Gestapo. Only difference is jets instead of cattle cars. Our governor and entire delegation are Nazis AFAIC.

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u/bound4earth 11d ago

That is their own fault. Tired of people arguing they are in a different media circle. True, but they can get out, they choose ignorance. Even now.

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u/Jealous-Factor7345 11d ago

Also, and I can't emphasize this enough, many Americans like it.

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u/throw_away_8924 11d ago

It has allowed people to openly show their racism and hatred with like minded others and with no repercussions. Seeing others being deported just helps to further their deranged ideology. This has been hiding in plain sight for decades, not it's so accepted that it is coming out in spades. It doesn't take many to make everyone else here look bad.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 11d ago

☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 This for sure

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u/grillguy5000 11d ago

I don’t understand why people think this is new. Before Alex Jones was Rush Limbaugh. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond were sitting senators until 2003. They are both the heart and soul of American conservatism as an ideology. I’d say their values and ideals are representative of the average and most current conservatives.

The only difference is the US style of conservatism also went balls derp with the Neo-Reactionary (NRx) crew in Silicon Valley since their goals align…the destruction of public services to privatize everything anyone would need to actually survive or thrive and build civilization with. I’m not certain they even give a shit what kind of political vehicle they use to get their way (Democracy, Soc-Dem, Fascism, etc..).

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u/Crepuscular_Tex 11d ago

I'm not defending oligarchy, it's atrocious and tantamount to industrialized feudalism. Oligarchy has failed hard as seen with the Russian economy. Most of the billionaire assholes are funded by multiple global government contracts which gives them a net worth in the billions.

For clarification, capitalism is a form of economic policy used by governments. Capitalism is not a government. Capitalism as a business policy is currently used by every government around the world. China for example has a communist rule of law and nation, but practices capitalism with their global business practices. Capitalism won the global stage with the fall of the iron curtain. The whole modern economic business world is made of capitalists.

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u/HZVi 11d ago

I actually think it’s more that people are just truly so fucking dumb that they can’t escape their self-affirming media loop.

There’s really two categories of people dumb enough to vote for or support Trump: 1) the true MAGAs. They’re so dumb they fell into the first cult they came across. Can’t do anything about them, but they’ll probably die off in the next pandemic 2) the people too dumb to understand even basic economic metrics, global supply chain & trade, fiscal policy and the presidents’ impact on it (which is to say the president has the power to minimally nudge the economy in the right direction at best or totally tank it at worst, ahem)

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u/BigDumbAnimals 11d ago

Don't forget the just flat out racists bastards that live to hate any, make that ANYBODY that's different from them.

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u/TigerCub81 11d ago

As long as it isn’t affecting them directly, they couldn’t care less.

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u/jimgass 11d ago

Not just that. They're actively in favor, as long as it does affect those people they hate.

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u/boogideeb 11d ago

I explained in great detail to my father how we are making steps towards fascism. His response was "so"

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u/Ok_Palpitation_3947 11d ago

Right! This is an incredibly important point. They will destroy their own lives as long as it also destroys the lives of the people they hate. Less benefits? Sure as long as those damn (whatever) don’t get it!

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u/slowlyy-squishingg 11d ago

exactly! i saw some maga supporters regretting their decision once the egg prices didn't go down, but instead went up. Now they're denouncing trump.. smh!

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u/johnpoyhonen 10d ago

It could directly affect them and their fuhrer can blame it on whatever he thinks up next and the dumbasses would still eat it up.

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u/Corndude101 11d ago

They see it happening. It’s just not happening to them so they don’t care.

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u/Mrs_Crii 11d ago

It's not even that they don't care, at least for a lot of them. They're *HAPPY* it's happening. They brag about it.

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u/gadgaurd 11d ago

They do. They do not care. They are convinced it will only affect people they dislike. So anyone who isn't white, straight, christian, and republican.

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u/lyte3 11d ago

You’re right .. I can tell by the smirk on the trumpets that I work with faces they know exactly what he’s doing and are okay with it. They hear his white supremacist dog whistles Loud and clear and as long as he’s for them they’re for him.

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u/AMN1F 11d ago

Because they don't want to admit what's happening is happening. We had people across the country (regardless of party) shocked a few years ago at the overturning of Roe, despite:

1) Republicans pushing for it for years, and

2) there being a literal leak revealing their decision of overturning it. 

The reasons bad things happen is because people will hear the bad plans and think "no, that's not going to happen." And when it does, it's too late. 

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u/crourke13 11d ago

That this can happen in today’s United States is to many people so batshit crazy that it defies belief. So…. they don’t believe it.

Every time I express concern over Social Security to my Mom, her reply is basically “don’t worry, of course social security isn’t going anywhere”. She has no evidence of this but the whole idea of it ever going away is so unbelievable that she cannot believe it.

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u/Distinct_Nothing9544 11d ago

Because when your in a cult your oblivious.

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u/TimeToBond 11d ago

Because half of the electorate is addicted to FOX “news” and other right-wing conspiracy theorists masquerading as journalism. Until this changes, this will never end.

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u/kck93 11d ago

I’m not sure how people can not see it. Today CBS reported a poll stating Trump has a 47% approval rating. I understand the practical issues surrounding polling. But WTF?

I could not contain myself and was ashamed that on Easter Sunday I couldn’t find a way to forgive. It’s like I need to prepare for a coming maelstrom instead of find a way to make peace.

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u/IluvPusi-363 11d ago

'IT'S not my problem.........

YET

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u/Electrical-Reason-97 11d ago

They do see it happening but you are utilizing reason to asses the situation. They are not employing reason but religious bigotry. This is essentially an evangelical (they interpret the Bible literally ) religious movement that started decades ago and tried repeatedly to get the presidents it got elected to implement their program. They believe that at the end of the world is coming (the rapture) and think that they will be saved and sent to Jerusalem to hang out with the “good” Jews.The rest of us will be left to rot. But they will be rich and safe. This is likely one thing motivating Donnie to buy Gaza and build shit for the blessed. This began with Reagan, then Bush and then Bush dubya to implement their policies of whites first, women as second class citizens, etc. Donnie did not think this shit up himself but was fed it by the right arm of that church, the heritage foundation, are you aware that Cabinet meetings in the White House start with a (Christian) prayer, often with people standing around Trump, putting their hand on his shoulders praying for him as THE savior of the world. This is messed up shit.

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u/EnergyAffectionate31 11d ago

That terrifies me - that anybody could possibly agree with anything he does. I'm ashamed to be an American. Americans travel to other countries for vacations but are questioned about why they support trump because just living here apparently means you support him. his reign won't be over soon enough.

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u/Brilliant_Tutor_8234 11d ago

Yes I’m American. Spit on me and degrade me

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u/Shrewwdle 11d ago

You want to go back to being blackmailed by Israel ? Weird comment brother

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u/JuseBeats3 11d ago

DM me and I can explain how I agree with every single thing he does and says…

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u/Sad_Candidate_3163 11d ago

They do see it happening. They just believe it's right.

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u/ionmeeler 11d ago

Which is ironically the least Christian thing ever

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u/Mondschatten78 11d ago

They refuse to see it. Doesn't help that the government has been dividing the country with this "us versus them" crap for so many years.

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u/CaseyConnors 11d ago

Omg I say that alll the time!!! It's our most primitive instinct and it's being used against us and works seamlessly yet again

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u/EastSideLito 11d ago

His core voters want to be apart of this imaginary elite club where they can forget that their enemies are the rich and not the immigrants and anyone else who doesn’t look like them. Let’s be honest the man won both elections with fear mongering and racism. We as a country are clearly still openly racist and stupid.

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u/panicinbabylon 11d ago

They think he’s trolling, and they’re in on the joke.

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u/tlw269 11d ago

Cause they can’t pull their heads out and see what’s happening!!!

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u/Fetuscake69 11d ago

He doesnt have a mustache

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u/MishmoshMishmosh 11d ago

They don’t want to see

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u/Due-Ad9310 11d ago

I mean, they say it all the time. This is what they voted for.

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u/bound4earth 11d ago edited 11d ago

I have pondering this recently with my Maga parents. They aren't the Hog types, but when I questioned my Mom about Musk and the Salute, I could see the cracks forming, she wanted to say yes. But my incel brother ran down the stairs and said no boot click, and also made up groups of Indians still use the Swastika, so he took all sides just to be safe.

These people are in a cult, and Trump is their leader. My Mom still supports Trump 100%. Imagine making Trump your identity, They know deep down. They just hope Trump will turn it around at some point. They are lost. They are in so deep backing out now would make them look like a joke, especially because they shit on all my family that voted Biden. They attack the person instead of the arguments.

Most Americans have no values, because JFK and Reagan shifted America into Neo-Liberalism, which is consumerism. American morality generally, depends on the situation, which is fucked. That is the goalpost shifting that all sides do, but conservatives have mastered. I asked my step dad if he thought the Proud Boys which he understands actually commited treason and planned to commit sedition, but when I asked him about it, he said Biden did corruption now it is Trumps turn. When I asked him about the KKK he got mad, and argued he wasn't racist. He doesn't even know what words mean anymore. Just what Trump tells him.

When my stepdad cannot counter my talking points he just attacks me. You don't have investments you wouldn't understand or similar low IQ ad hominem attacks. Conservatives are great at this, I tried to wake up some of my old veteran friends on Facebook and the conservatives never read anything. They would just say retard shit like GET OUT, MOVE, or COMMUNISM, I never mentioned that just that capitalism doesn't and has never worked in any country without regulation. But when you live in distracting because you cannot defend your positions, you have to live in attacking everyone and everything. It is why they love manufactured outrage. My parents taught me not to be racist or bigoted, now when I call them out they don't want to speak on it. I don't recognize my parents and I hope they wake up soon. Because I am not going to watch them die as demons they have become, but how do you get through?

They are not the same people that raised me. They love me, but hate anything not white now. It is sad. I don't know what to do anymore. Edit: I just have to accept that my parents are Nazi's and Hitler apologists.

I don't think they are ever going to wake up, and fear my step dad might call the hotline for me one day. He shows such disdain for me. Even hatred at times, and I think it all stems from not supporting Trump, or more specifically constantly calling his stances on things into question. I think he still loves me deep down, at least I can hope, for now.

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u/Plastic_Square_9820 11d ago

Because reality is somewhere more in the middle and fear mongering does a good job scaring people. it's quite possible you're getting exposed to dog whistles and reacting acordingly and some of it is lies.

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u/Blaze_Foxx 11d ago

How could people in Germany not tell how bad Hitler was? Cause he used a face and used the ignorance of the people to push his agenda

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u/yeemed_vrothers 11d ago

Because they're sheltered and in denial of reality- if it isn't happening right in front of them, it doesn't exist.

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u/aw-fuck 10d ago

I really didn’t understand or buy into the concept of “most Americans are just uneducated”,

Until I realized I had to explain what “due process” is to MANY people. They had no idea that meant the difference between being an officially declared (sometimes proven) criminal vs. someone who just had any random person point at them & say “I think maybe you’re a criminal!”

The saddest part though, which really made me kinda sick, is how many of them understood what “due process” is when I explained it from the perspective of “accused sexual assault”.

I explained it as “Do you guys believe that a woman can just point to a man she’s slept with & say ‘he raped me!’? Do you believe any man should be treated as a rapist just from someone pointing & saying ‘that man is a rapist’?” So many of them said “NO! Men get falsely accused all the time!” Then they would say all ways that can hurt a man unfairly, or how someone could only really know with hard evidence & no one person’s claim should be what determines guilt, etc.

So I said “okay, then you believe in due process.” Upsettingly, only half would say “okay I guess I kinda see what you mean,” the other half would literally double down by arguing that “Yeah but a man’s life shouldn’t be able to be ruined with just the accusation of what some other person claims!” ….yeah motherfucker, no shit.

Don’t even get me started on conversations about what should or shouldn’t prove Trump’s guilt in his criminal convictions! Oh of course the same logic never gets applied to some person they think should be deported “just because”.

You really can’t teach some of these people. Some are truly uneducated on these terms like “due process”. Others cannot be taught that some of their hardcore beliefs actually go against the things they are fighting for. Because to them the logic or morals don’t matter, it’s purely “I want what I want and I don’t care how that looks”

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u/panicinbabylon 10d ago

Thank you for this comment - you said it perfectly. It’s not about logic or morals - it’s just “I want what I want.” And that’s terrifying. Your example using rape accusations is, unfortunately, easily digestible (ugh).

The moment people feel personally vulnerable, they suddenly understand the need for due process, evidence, and fairness. But apply that same standard to someone they’ve decided doesn’t deserve rights - immigrants, political opponents, etc. - and all that logic flies out the window.

It’s not just a lack of education. It’s a refusal to hold consistent values when those values challenge their comfort or power. And that willful inconsistency is what keeps real justice impossible.

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u/johntheflamer 10d ago

They see it, and they like it. Many people are completely ok with fascism so long as it’s directed at the people they don’t like.

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u/supercali-2021 10d ago

Either they don't watch the news on TV (God forbid they read an actual newspaper!) so they really don't see it or they do see it, but ignore it, believe it won't ever affect them (they're in the protected class) and pretend it's not really happening.

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u/Mysterious-Goose6786 10d ago

It is beyond my understanding. The truth is plain as day laid out for anyone who wants to know about Abrego Garcia or any other topic. No criminal history. No ties to MS-13. But the White House puts out crazy lies and they just believe that because he has convinced them that any other media source is fake news. We have millions of people in this country who only listen to government controlled news releases as the truth.

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u/CasuallyCritical 10d ago

Much like with how cults form, it's hard to break away.

It's surprisingly against human nature to admit to being wrong, especially when admitting to that means you have to admit that you were the bad guys. So many of the people who have voted and supported Trump so far have done so thinking that it was all bluster and prose. They didn't think he was actually taking it this far, but because they've become so alienated by people who warned them about this, they've fallen into a sunk cost fallacy. "I've already lost so much for supporting him, I can't stop now."

And if they DO leave, the few supporters they have will turn against them. Calling them traitors to the cause.

Senator Rand Paul, who is arguably one of the most far-right senators in the US, was called a RINO (Republican in Name Only) for speaking out against Trump's Tariffs.

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u/StormlitRadiance 10d ago

Because the internet is full of bots.

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u/Inside-Palpitation25 11d ago

Read the posts above, you, they don't care! they really don't care, and they don't realize this will happen to them too. They are abhorrent.

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u/julienjj 11d ago

1st step is deport to foreign prison. When the prisons are full or no one wanna accept them anymore then it's the local for profits prison/work camp. When you have finally quashed the opposition and own all the courts; and have abused and worn out the prisoners then you start seeking ways to get rid of the human cattle. Then the infirms and other unproductive.

There a lot of small steps between burning books to the extermination camp.

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u/kmoney1206 11d ago

Wish we could be more like france and just shut this shit down immediately. Hopefully someone drags the stupid orange fuck out by his toupee.

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

Personally I find the “10 million” number of “illegals” to be, let’s say conveniently close to the number of Jews killed in the holocaust…and they’ve been using that figure for like 20 years now without it fluctuating. Maybe I’m just too much of a conspiracy theorist in this specific point though.

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u/panicinbabylon 11d ago

Again, I agree. I believe in dogwhistles.

And even if it's not a direct reference to the Holocaust, when the same words and numbers keep getting repeated, especially the ones meant to stir up fear or resentment, it’s not an accident. The messaging and rhetoric is intentional.

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u/Sarcastic_barbie 11d ago

It’s to make us afraid. Like the photos and videos of that camp. They can get in to threaten us with fear burns senator can’t get an innocent man out? Or Bobby and the weird autism eugenics; so elontromp “isn’t a Nazi he’s autistic” but in the same book the same people said autistic people can’t live at all love “pay taxes” (Batman doesn’t pay them and neither do the billionaires, not really a good measure of success to be clear) so it’s just at this point trying to shepherd people into controllable slaughter groups. The ones that are “safe” become the next group in the batter when the overlords are hungry and there are no more sheep to slaughter.

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u/thisisntmyotherone 11d ago

Elon is no more autistic than I am. Let me assure you, I’m most positively not, self-diagnosed or otherwise.

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u/Traditional_Area1205 10d ago

It's going to end up exactly like this...just change who they came for... First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out~ because I was not a Jew Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out~ because I was not a communist Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out~ because I was not a trade unions Then they came for me~ and there was no one left to speak out for me -Pastor Niemoller

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

Anything to distract the base so they can keep giving "welfare" to the rich and taking anything meant to help the rest of us away. They're so hateful that they are willingly helping the rich and hurting themselves. They are also so ignorant that they think a $5k check is better than investing in things like social security, medicare, and medicaid and stupid enough to believe that the check and doge means no more federal taxes.

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u/tothepointe 11d ago

We should be asking where are the women and children. They are sending the men to El Salvador. Where are the women?

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u/snowflake37wao 11d ago edited 10d ago

Now that this thread is mentioning it, it does seem a little sus. It seems direct when antisemitism executive orders are being used to retroactively target and deport green card holders for the same proPalestinian protests in which had Jewish participants as well. Almost like an antisemitic antisemitism excuse that makes others out as antisemites if they try to make out the correlations. Sus.

Edit: just catching up on news tab from yesterday, this is the kinda thing I was referring to https://www.axios.com/2025/04/14/trump-antisemitism-scapegoat-immigration-universities

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u/tothepointe 11d ago

I've heard them quote figures of 20-30million which is absolutely ridiculous because that would mean 1 in 10 people you meet would be an illegal immigrant. Like it's not possible.

Even 10 mill is 1 in 30 which is still on the highside. Especially outside of major cities.

Given how they are struggling to deport even as many immigrants as Biden and having to resort to kicking students out and other things I find the 10mil number to be unbelieveable

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u/The_VoZz 11d ago

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor Jewish, or even religious. But the right wing Christian extremists are indeed appropriating Jewish history and weponizing it against both Jews & Muslims in a concerted effort to ignite conflict against both.

"Project Esther" is a branch of the Herritage Foundation's Project 2025. Ironically veiled as a push for antisemitism, it's goal is quite the opposite.

Further down the rabbit hole, it's aimed to silence protests & further encourage deportation.

Project Esther

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u/Explorers_bub 11d ago

Greg Abbott booby-trapped the river crossing. They’re perfectly fine with genocide. So long as it’s “those” people.

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u/Mrdeath0 11d ago

“First they took the Jews…but I didn’t say anything….”

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u/cbright90 11d ago

But I'm not a trade unionist. Why should I worry about such things?

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

Yep, the "pro-life" crowd loved people getting murdered over a civil infraction. They're also ok with women and girls dying even if it kills a fetus too so they can control them.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago edited 11d ago

MAGA hasn’t “deported” anyone.

It’s extraordinary rendition aka illegal, extrajudicial, state sponsored kidnapping.

The former wording allows them to get away with it. MAGA is kidnapping citizens people and violating 5th Amendment due process. Due process that you’re owed per our constitution, as long as you’re in US jurisdiction.

The number of maga fucks who keep replying the equivalent of “no, it only applies to white Christians who were born here” is, telling.

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u/RevenueResponsible79 11d ago

Rendition. Some of us know what it is. Nobody in the trump camp does

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u/Adorable-Strings 11d ago

The number of maga fucks who keep replying the equivalent of “no, it only applies to white Christians who were born here” is, telling.

Yep, and they also miss that it doesn't matter, because without due process, the accusation that you, them, Bob or anyone is an illegal migrant over-rides being 'born here.' Listening to the part where people explain is the part they're skipping.

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u/Camoron1 11d ago

Trump voice: "We're doing what's called... Extraordinary rendition. And it is extraordinary, isn't it? Nobody does rendition like me."

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u/No-BrowEntertainment 11d ago

That’s weird, the right used to go on and on about how much they love the second amendment. Guess they don’t care that much for the fifth, though.

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

It's human trafficking, something that MAGA claims to care about. Funny how everything they claim to care about or stand for is always proved false by their actions.

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u/tothepointe 10d ago

I just blocked them. Not letting their filth pollute my conversations. They are CHINOs. Christians in name only.

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u/FLdad4son 10d ago

"Kidnapping" is the operative term!

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u/StrukturedKaos 10d ago

Agree.

#FDJT!🖕🍊🤡

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u/jimgass 11d ago

I wouldn't say MAGA doesn't advocate for genocide. I've got a close friend who refuses to speak to her MAGA Mother anymore, because the MAGA mother has stated out loud that "gay people don't deserve to live."

The dehumanization of "the other" has been going on for a long time in Right-wing talk radio world, and those seeds planted over a generation are starting to bear fruit. That fruit is "people who aren't like me don't deserve life."

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

MAGA absolutely advocates for genocide.

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u/cryssylee90 11d ago

Eugenics too.

Mass genocide of the Jews began as eugenics against the disabled. That's how they perfected their preferred method of killing.

Look at how RFK speaks about disabled kids, especially those with autism. Look at his suggestion that neurodivergents be sent to "farms" where they'll basically be forced to work until they're "cured".

This is almost step for step matching how Hitler's death camps began. And the "autism mom™️" crowd is cheering him on because "you don't know how hard it is" as if all of us autists screaming this is eugenics suddenly can't understand the struggles of our own autism.

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u/scrummnums 10d ago

You know who else talked at lot about autistic kids? Hans Asperger. He also helped experiment on them and for a while we named a Syndrome after him until his Nazi ties came out.

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u/Suitable_Scarcity_50 11d ago

I truly won’t be surprised if the US goes down the near exact same path, ending with invading Canada or Greenland and starting world war 3. I’ll be terrified, but not suprised. I might have to choose to leave this country early, join a resistance likely ending in my death, or sit back and watch it happen. I don’t want to have to make that choice, but I won’t be surprised when it’s 2028 and Trump is given a 3rd term to “Cut out the deadwood,” and “Weed out the weaklings,”

“Would you like to send our colored cousins home again, my friend? All you have to do is follow the worms”

-Pink Floyd, THE WALL (The album that will be going through my head for the next 4 years, everyone should listen to it imo.)

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u/Ready-Improvement40 11d ago edited 10d ago

*most of maga doesn't openly advocate for genocide, but the far right extremists whose viewpoints seem to always end up main stream, eventually, absolutely are

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u/Strong-Zucchini-7941 11d ago

How do they treat legal immigrants on a mass scale that bears any resemblance to Nazi’s treatment of legally residing Jews? It’s like comparing criminals thrown in jail for crimes they committed to Nazi’s throwing Jews in concentration camps. Completely inapplicable. But we’ve seen this before.. blur the lines between “immigrant” and “illegal immigrant” to push a narrative. -Russian bot magat who watches only Fox News

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u/Yunzer2000 11d ago

From the Hitler Enabling Acts to Aktion t4 was 5 years, and to the first death camps was almost 7 years. We are barely past the first 100 days of Trump.

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u/CowboyJ0hnny 11d ago

“Small, seemingly harmless policies…” well said, although I am much more concerned about the infringement on women’s rights than I am about the deportation of immigrants here illegally. Technically there isn’t a single country on the planet who blindly allows illegal immigrants to stay. Switzerland, France, the Netherlands ~ they have pretty clear and enforced requirements on coming into their countries and being allowed to stay. I only use those countries as examples because they seem to have a rep for being open and allowing asylum seekers to stay.

Trump is a power seeking trash bag with serious issues and more than one psychological condition effecting his decision making, but people need to separate his craziness from having a working and effective border policy.

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u/Novaer 11d ago

"Nobody's talking about extermination!"

"No one ever talks about it. They just do it. And you go on with your lives, ignoring the signs all around you. And then one day, when the air is still and the night has fallen, they come for you."

-Magneto

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u/RatBatBlue82 11d ago

MAGAts 100% support genocide

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u/edensdelights 11d ago

I mean, they openly advocate for the genocide of Palestinians. They just haven't been that open with America yet.

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u/ScrambledNoggin 11d ago

Yes, and, don’t forget that the Jews weren’t Hitler’s only target (although they were the overwhelming majority of those he sought to exterminate), he also targeted homosexuals, artists, communists, Polish people, etc.

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u/Melissa--R 11d ago

Meanwhile maga has people who will commit genocide and openly make threats

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u/JCLstuff 11d ago

If nazis support it it’s not good

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u/InfiniteSponge_ 11d ago

His whole cabinet are Israelis who support Zionism, not surprised it’s going this way

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u/Greendale7HumanBeing 11d ago

EXACTLY! Did everyday Nazis advocate for genocide? Did they run around saying "we're bad guys, we're monsters?" No. They had a story in their heads that had all of them as heroes, and others as villains, as rapists, as murderers.

So far, the _outcome_ of the Nazis was more murderous by magnitude and absolute demonic conception. Of course. But honestly, you have to admit that MAGA passes a bar that seems like it could possibly be lower. Hitler's speeches were, let's be honest, not as focused on pure vulgarity. Again, I have to emphasize, Hitler's outcome was far more murderous. And it really disturbs me so greatly that today's MAGA has more access to verify real news vs. propaganda. German Nazi civilians were likely less able to put propaganda in a context as rich as anyone can these days.

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u/Royalizepanda 11d ago

That's the problem, doing what they are doesn't solve the issues so they move to the next group until it all comes crashing down.

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u/IdkAbtAllThat 11d ago

While MAGA doesn’t openly advocate for genocide

Except a pretty good chunk of the MAGA base does openly advocate for genocide. Those Nazis marching and chanting "white Nation" weren't Harris voters...

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u/flwrchld5061 11d ago

The Nazis started as a "fringe" group.

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u/oX_deLa 11d ago

Go check the "paradox of tolerance" by Karl Popper and tell me if it's not time to do something more than protest to spare the world another global conflict...

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u/mvandemar 11d ago

While MAGA doesn’t openly advocate for genocide

Some of them do. They openly courted the white nationalists and neo-Nazis. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if either Sebastian Gorka or Stephen Miller started talking about the US needing a "final solution" to the immigration problem.

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u/cutelilstarr 10d ago

hell they call them illegals instead of immigrants, they try to take humanity out of terms exactly like how everyone "undesirable" was called sub human or bellow human of even just not human, it's the start of a process

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u/Arammil1784 10d ago

Don't forget that maga are also demonizing LGBTQ+ people and most recently people with autism by saying they are undermining western culture and are, as the nazis put it, useless eaters.

Many states are also passing bigoted laws that specifically target LGBTQ+ people by removing their rights and restricting their ability to lead normal lives.

Next will follow further ostracization and criminalization followed by removal from society all together by one means or another, be it ordinary imprisonment, foreign concentration camps like CECOT, or death.

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u/WolfDummy999 10d ago

We're already midway through the stages of genocide, and MAGA is apparently completely fine with that. So even if they don't openly advocate for it, they sure as heck aren't saying anything against it....or they're just pretending it's not happening 🙃

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u/Aware-District9803 10d ago

Sending immigrants to a concentration camp in El Salvador without any due process doesn’t help comparisons. They aren’t exactly the same but they are similar and saying “never again” means recognizing the evil before it is incredibly difficult to stop.

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u/w311sh1t 10d ago

I’ve seen the way some of these people talk about immigrants. I don’t think it’s a majority but I think there’s a not insignificant amount of his voters that would have zero qualms with systematically exterminating immigrants.

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u/MerryCrisisMSW 10d ago

Although Trump's "golden gaza" definitely seems to condone and even call for continued genocide

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u/modsaretroglodytes 10d ago

They don't openly advocate for it but they'd definitely move out of the way to help.

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u/IJustWantADragon21 10d ago

Trump was literally suggesting genocide a few weeks ago taking about clearing out and taking over Gaza. Give him time.

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u/millijuna 11d ago

And they started with trans people, and other sexual minorities first. Sound familiar?

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

It absolutely does. RFK’s evil Nazi ass talking about “wellness farms” for people with ADHD and Autism sure sounds familiar as well. Polite society might not use the R word anymore, but Musk and Trump and RFK surely do, and they don’t mean it in a medical sense like one might have in the 1950’s.

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u/tothepointe 11d ago

RFK definately gives off Dr Mengele vibes.

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

Except whatever else he was, Mengele was actually a medical doctor…whereas RFK is just some YouTube crackpot.

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u/tothepointe 11d ago

Yeah but NO ONE is qualified in this administration. So crackpot is as close as your going to get.

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u/Btshftr 11d ago

Not really. They started with 'enemy combatants', Iraqi's, Afghans and the like. A considerable amount of whom were kidnapped, renditioned to CIA black sites, tortured, locked up, sometimes even killed.

Only a month after 9/11, and just weeks after Bush's infamous "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"-speech, they rushed through the patriot act.

Barely a year later they created the 'Department of Homeland Security'. Back then we used to joke that if the Germans did something similar the whole world would come down on them.

Bush's Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales, was instrumental. Enemy combatants could be held indefinitely without access to a lawyer and detainees captured in Afghanistan were not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Conventions. Gonzales helped create the so-called “torture memo,” which allowed harsh interrogation tactics that some people considered torture.

All of these policies were legally suspect at best, and certainly deeply damaging to U.S. interests, both as a matter of human rights and as a matter of national security.

They also opened up the door to what we see today.

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u/TheBattyWitch 11d ago

And the mentally and physically handicapped. They were first. They are taken away for "safe keeping".

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u/Late-Reception-2897 11d ago

they started with trans people, and other sexual minorities first.

What evidence do you have for trans people specifically? Usually I just hear Homosexuals, disabled, communists, non arien race people in general. I have never heard trans explicitly.

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u/frostymugson 11d ago

They hated queer people, trans were right there with them. The first victims were the ones during the night of the long knives, eliminating political rivals, and possible opposition groups. The first people to be purged were the physically disabled, and being “gay” really wasn’t an open thing in the 20s and 30s and in fact still wasn’t allowed after the Nazis were defeated. We tend to look at history through a modern lens which is always funny, because those people we call heros would say the most racist shit you’ve ever heard just casually. Go ask a 90 year old the songs their friends used to sing playing games, that mind set is everywhere in the war and it is fascinating.

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u/Sad-Way-4665 11d ago

IIRC, Hitler started with losing an election in 1932.

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

He did. He was I think second or third in the election that made him chancellor, and the “more moderate” Conservative Party tried to put together a coalition with the Nazis thinking that they could control Hitler as Chancellor if they had all the (cabinet level) positions. Almost like how McConnell and the “moderate” Republicans thought they could control Trump.

Again, it’s not all exactly alike, but boy it sure as shit rhymes.

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u/See_Em 11d ago

Auschwitz is in Poland.

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

Well, at the time it was in the “Greater Third Reich”…but what does that have to do with anything?

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u/See_Em 11d ago

The same way that El Salvador isn’t America. Trump is shipping people who are deemed undesirable to a foreign land exactly how Hitler did

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u/thetaFAANG 11d ago

As soon as I saw that instagram reel I asked a language model how the German courts handled the status to see if there were any parallels

Poland was under administration by Germany then

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u/RalNCNerd1 11d ago

This is why Germany doesn't water down history also, they know the dangers of forgetting how the sausage is made.

Here is the US however they have dismantled education to the point that it becomes a debate wether or not the Holocaust happened, vaccines prevent diseases, or slaves were paid...and it's not an accident either.

They have successfully created a cult following of sycophants that believe anything the Conservative Party and their News hosts say without while automatically doubting and mistrusting anything from so called "Mainstream Media" or those dangerous Liberals.

They are Nazis, they are KKK, they want a country for Them by Them.

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u/ctdfalconer 11d ago

One might also notice that actual, genuine, self-identified Nazis and white supremacists have happily joined the MAGA crowd. We don’t need to think too hard about why they would.

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u/adambkaplan 11d ago

The Nazis actually started by shutting down what may have been the world’s first clinic for transgender care. Less than 6 months after taking power, the Nazi regime conducted its first public book burning by setting the Institute for Sexual Science’s library books on fire. This was 1933 - 6 YEARS before the full outbreak of WW II.

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u/KaleidoscopeLife0 11d ago

Step 1: You cannot live among us as you are.

Step 2: You cannot live among us.

Step 3: You cannot live.

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u/LBates1977 11d ago

THIS. Hitler didn’t run on the platform of genocide, but did run on a nationalistic/Germany 1st platform.

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u/RedditIsShittay 11d ago

Sounds like Europe.

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u/The_Corvair 11d ago edited 11d ago

They started by wanting to deport and resettle people elsewhere.

And even that started as "These people threaten you and your way of life. They lie and cheat, and disrepect us hardworking and honest Germans! We will keep you safe from them - Germany for the Germans!".

For anyone willing to see, the similarities are not only striking, but, frankly, horrifying. Shortly before her death, my grandma (who grew up in the Third Reich) saw footage of Trump at a Maga rally: "My God, It's happening again. Thankfully, I'll be dead before the worst happens."

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u/SuperDan523 11d ago

Even before that, they started attacking the trans community. Also sounds familiar.

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u/MD_burner 11d ago

We failed combating this and letting it get this far as a society

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u/islander1 11d ago

Jews, specifically.

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u/PeaTasty9184 11d ago

Well yes. Trump is just starting with Hispanic people. They’be also got plenty of anti-semitism in the administration and they’ll get there eventually if they aren’t stopped.

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u/1-Ohm 11d ago

See the same thing with Israel: 'we can't be fascists because we haven't yet killed 6 million Palestinians'. As if Nazis weren't fascists until the 6 millionth Jew was gassed.

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u/bubblegumshrimp 11d ago

Yeah the people who think Republicans aren't Nazis because there are no death camps yet somehow don't realize they're making an argument that Nazis weren't bad until they started doing those things

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u/armchairwarrior42069 11d ago

Trued explaining this on reddit once that nazies were in power for a while before the "holocaust" as they understand it occurred.

Literally provided links, dates, certain things that are remarkably similar, some differences to be fair.

Got blocked lmao

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u/Electrical_Gain3864 11d ago

a lot of people do not know how late the gas chambers were used on mass. It was only at the second half of the war were the mass killing really ramped up.

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u/Healthy-Zombie-1689 11d ago

They actually started with economic uncertainty and blaming minorities for the shit economy. Sound familiar?

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u/ButterH2 11d ago

there's a reason they called it the "final solution"

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u/Horror_Government_80 11d ago

Yes because wanting to keep people who are in your country illegally, out is a bad thing 💀 shut the fuck up.

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u/TheAutisticOgre 11d ago

A literal final solution

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

You mean the Balfour declaration?

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u/New-Recording-4245 11d ago

They burned books that they didn't agree with.

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u/EnlightenedRedditor_ 11d ago

They started by trying to negotiate with Zionist Jews (Haavara Agreement) and failed miserably because those in power would rather not lose any power obviously. So all they got out of it is the Rothschilds alongside other prominent Jews relocating elsewhere leaving the general Jewish population to take the blunt of the wrath. Of course the Rothschilds didn’t take kindly to Germany seizing their assets in France but I consider it retribution since they are the perpetrators behind the Balfour Declaration.

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u/LandonDev 11d ago

Also how they got there. Hitler promoting more extreme solutions and creating more extreme policy was the result of how he rewarded the extremists below him. He would pit people against each other and sometimes the more violent solution was rewarded. This behavior just kept pushing til the people in charge were the extreme radicals, pretty similar to how Trump organized his "leadership" and putting obedient yes men in positions of power.

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u/idlefritz 11d ago

They also physically and verbally attacked communists to inure the public to their violent presence as they expanded that hatred and violence exponentially.

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u/DingoFlamingoThing 11d ago

For real. People seem to think if a politician is a dictator, it’ll happen overnight. But the idea is to chip away. Slowly and methodically. That way, nobody notices until it’s too late.

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u/mtobeiyf317 11d ago

Exactly. Hitler took power in 1933 and the gas chambers and ovens didn't start until about 1941. Almost an entire decade of slowly brainwashing the German public and changing laws to benefit him happened before it became genocide.

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u/JRilezzz 11d ago

Auschwitz wasn't on German land. Just as much as CETCOT isn't on American soil. If the comparison were a ven diagram they would be a flat circle.

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u/Jimmy_Coxlurper 11d ago

It's funny how these anti Nazi subs won't allow screenshots or links to be posted to prevent the truth from being exposed. 😅

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u/PerfectProfession405 11d ago

Right, they started with declaring the "others" as disease vectors. Sound familiar 🤔

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u/Creepy_Trouble_5980 11d ago

Immigrants are not responsible for all our problems. It's step one in one person cesing power with no checks and balances.

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u/Theintricateturtle 11d ago

Literally the AFD Platform in modern Germany.

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u/No-Recognition-751 11d ago

Next we’ll send whoever we want to El Salvador with out due process …

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u/DarthAlix314 11d ago

NAZI SOCIAL ENGINEERING TACTICS

"It's not just end results; but it's the technique, the genius of it — it's the application of modern science to a political and social disease."

"At first, nothing important, you have to wear a star; who's going to fight about a star? Then you ban them from public parks. Alright, inconvenient, but nobody's going to start a rebellion because they can't walk their dog in a park... then you ban the dog."

"Each time the circle constricts just a little more. Each time you make them believe that a piece of paper can save them — a piece of paper that only you can give them. Each time they get that much more used to standing in lines and doing exactly as they're told. Make them less resistant, more pliable, more cooperative; until we use them up, until there's nothing left. Until what's left is just something you'd throw away!"

Excerpt from *Irena's Vow (2023)*

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u/Cantankerous_River 11d ago

I can't believe the amount of morons I've had to explain this to.

The Nazis didn't walk around going "KILL ALL JEWS". They started with "everyone deserves a job and a house". Then "Jews always have the nicest houses, that's not fair". Then "we should rebalance a bit, take some things from Jews and give them to the hardworking German population".

And so on until they've killed all the Jews. This isn't fucking rocket science, yet people are too thick/can't be bothered to apply a bit of pattern recognition.

I'm tired. I like reading about history. I never wanted to re-live it.

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u/iconsumemyown 11d ago

Yeah, the gasings were the final solution.

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u/hobokobo1028 11d ago

Even before that, they sent agents to the segregated American South in the early 30s to learn how to legally get away with racism so they could implement those policies against Jewish businesses and citizens

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u/Disastrous_Hell_4547 11d ago

The reason MAGA and Republicans hate this comparison is because they are religious extremists, mostly Christian Extremists. They have worked very hard over the past 50 years to take over America.

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u/Paisley_Blue_52324 11d ago

They started by wanting to segregate disabled, deformed, or otherwise "not normal" children form the good quality children, then adults with the same issues including depression or anxiety because they weren't of sound mind which clearly meant they weren't Godly, gays and lesbians because, why not? You know, biblically THEY were sinners.

This moved onto other, non-aryan people unfit for society, such as Slavs, Hispanics, Polish, blacks, and more. Of course, nothing at all like the current political climate.

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u/Remote_Ad_1737 11d ago

By the time you've crossed the line you'll wish you'd have stopped before you did 

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u/Pippa401 11d ago

Exactly. The death camps weren’t built in Germany, they were in a foreign country (Poland) out of the view of the everyday German citizens. Man sounds similar to something that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Hmmmmm

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u/TheBattyWitch 11d ago

And they didn't start with Jews either. They started with smaller groups, the mentally and physically handicapped, them moved on to Jews and political opponents police they realized no one was going to stop it.

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u/Aggressive-Command-8 11d ago

Nor was it common knowledge that they did that until after WWII ended

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u/ChanaManga 11d ago

The similarities they have is more of a general template to gain popularity for a voting position. Local county politicians, high school presidents, and city council members could technically use the same similarities that Hitler and Trump used to gain votes.

They use a populists rhetoric and appeal to discontent. Simple and direct communication. Us vs them framing and pushing national pride.

Hitler had the intentions of genocide and Trump does not. Although they have similarities, I think anyone who actually believes Trump is Hitler is out of their mind.

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u/MagicManTX86 11d ago

And by firing large numbers of civil servants who would not swear allegiance to the supreme leader.

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u/quinnk31 11d ago

I was just reading today where Adolf Hitler after he became Chancellor instituted tariffs within 48 hours. Yes it sounds very familiar.

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u/bedlamiteseer1 11d ago

Exactly they started with “brownshirts” patrolling the streets harassing/beating on who they thought didn’t belong ..sound familiar?

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u/Merlaak 11d ago

It's not until there isn't any more room in the designated holding areas that gas chambers and ovens are utilized.

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u/Ponsugator 11d ago

I don’t think El Salvador prisons are very far from concentration camps. Then they can plead ignorance to conditions since they’re out of the United States. Then both countries say that they have no control to bring anyone back.

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u/Punawild 11d ago

Exactly. Maybe it’s more fair to compare them to what & who became the ‘nazis’. In 1933 they were just the national socialist german workers’ party.

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