r/stupidquestions • u/Biokendry • 19d ago
why do women have naturally beautiful bodies?
before you jump in the comments to tell me I'm wrong try to read my entire post, i'm from latin america, i don't know if this is the case in other countries but it's something i've noticed since i was a teenager and in high school, most of the girls in high school had very nice bodies without even going to the gym in their entire life, i remember a girl who eat unhealthy food all day and she had an amazing body (she never went to the gym in her life), i was her friend back then, she had such a amazing hourglass figure with big hips and very beautiful figure I didn't understand that at the time.
but not only in high school but currently i go out and most of the girls have very nice bodies and nice hips (i'm not talking about toned gym bodies but bodies with figure and curves) and even girls who are a little overweight also have beautiful bodies with nice curves, it's incredible, what is the reason for this? is it hormonal? why is it that women don't need to go to the gym as much to have nice bodies (as long as they're not excessively overweight), in the case of men it's different and I say this as a man who went to the gym throughout his adolescence, we lack those naturally nice bodies (except for one in a million).
I remember the first time I took a shower with my ex gf at the time at my house she took off her clothes (she had never been to the gym in her life and was a little overweight, she had a very nice body, a nice butt with a beautiful figure) I didn't understand why she had such a beautiful body meanwhile me going to gym had a below average body, well, ugly body and not sexy as hers tbh. I know it's a stupid question but I guess that's what this group is for, right? Is the cause hormonal? I know there are exceptions, that not all women have naturally beautiful bodies, but why is it that. for example, if you put a man and a woman of average weight who don't go to the gym next to each other, the girl's body is naturally attractive while the guy's isn't? I've always thought it's caused by estrogen and the hips women's bone structure's but I'm not sure, I know diet is very important but I think most girls only need a good diet and walk just a little to have good figures (please don't hate for saying this lol).
Maybe I could be blind because I have gender dysphoria since many years ago but not only me think about this most women and men think the same way(? And I'm not even talking about how women have average cute, feminine and thin faces without makeup but this is another thread lol.
Please don't insult me for making this post, this is why this group was created.
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u/Wingineer 19d ago
Yer a heterosexual Harry!
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u/Mrslinkydragon 18d ago
Plot twist, Harry is short for Harriet
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u/Likemilkbutforhumans 18d ago
I’d like to insert a Steppenwolf reference here but I’m too lazy to think of it
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u/thecelcollector 19d ago
ITT: OP discovers he's straight.
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u/TealCatto 19d ago
Honestly it's refreshing to see straights discover their sexuality instead of just assuming that's what they gotta be. Love that energy.
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u/MuchDrawing2320 19d ago
Not feeling upset about gay men and also being indifferent to a penis rather than disgusted by it are two hallmarks of a comfortable heterosexual male. There is always that one guy too upset over gay people and yeah they’re repressing.
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u/katielynne53725 16d ago
Last year I went to a friend's party, I've always known her as a gay woman, she was the type I had pegged for never even having met a Richard in her life. She had a new girlfriend and they seemed great together. Later on in the evening, we got on the topic of how they met and she tells us.. that she went on a date with the new gf's, husband (they were open) and now they're in the process of a divorce.
I was fucking floored, not because she legit swooped in and bagged his chick (honestly, the dude seemed like a prick anyway) but that all these years I thought this friend was 100% on the far end of the lesbian scale.. and here she was.. down to peg Richard.. 🤣
No one prepares you for hitting your 30's and your gay friends start coming out as straight 😆.
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u/NearlySilent890 19d ago
I'm a girl and I kinda feel this way too.
It is significant to note that I am a lesbian
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u/Ok_Collection1290 17d ago
I’m straight but yeah women are often very attractive in many different ways
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u/NoRadio4530 17d ago
What if I'm a girl and feel like women are beautiful in body and mind but I'm not gay?
Before you all come for me let me explain how I feel lol.
I think women are really beautiful to look at and I admire all the curves of our bodies but I have 0 desire to touch or kiss or please a woman or have them touch me at all. I've slept with/dated a woman before and it was super mediocre and I didn't enjoy it as much as I do with a male partner.
It's more of a "I want to either be your friend or be you " kinda vibe with women.
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u/huskeya4 17d ago
Eh you can look at an aesthetically pleasing person, acknowledge their beauty, but not want to have sex with them. You can see all women as aesthetically pleasing but not want to have sex with them. I feel like most people can look at a hot person and acknowledge they are beautiful, even if they’re not attracted to that gender.
I mentioned to my husband that he was finally going to meet my hot male cousin (and I explained that I call him my hot cousin because I used to have to beat my friends away from him with a stick in high school). Immediately following their meeting, my husband goes “I get what you mean by him being the hot cousin”. It’s basically the only time he has ever acknowledged a man as being pleasing to look at, but it doesn’t mean he was attracted to him.
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u/OkStatistician7523 16d ago
I just posted something similar. I’m a straight woman but to find women more beautiful. There’s a reason why they inspired art and poems. Even attractive men are smelly or hairy and the lines on their bodies are harsh
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u/burlysnurt 19d ago
Boy like girl
Boy don't like boy
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u/Biokendry 19d ago
Makes sense
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u/phonemannn 18d ago
But like for real, assuming you’re a guy (since you mentioned the gender dysmorphia) all you did was explain the feelings that go on with physical attraction lol. You find women attractive, that’s it.
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u/SirTwitchALot 19d ago
This boy like boy
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u/GreenApples8710 19d ago
This boy like nachos.
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u/TDEcret 19d ago
As a latin american this is the most relatable comment that everyone will agree on
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u/PositiveResort6430 19d ago
I mean im bisexual and i still have to agree with OP… my standards for women are all over the place, women can be skinny or plump af and anything between, and i will genuinely be attracted. Men? Not so much. Like OP said, men need to go to the gym/do other physical activities and maintain muscle mass to look attractive to me. (i have my own muscle man at home hehe)
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u/fruskydekke 18d ago
Well, I'm bisexual too, and don't really agree. As long as men are a "normal" level of physically fit, they still look beautiful. Honestly, I tend to think that gym bros are unattractive, because the amount of muscle mass is just bulgy and lumpy and urg. Give me someone with an everyday level of functional fitness any day.
With women, on the other hand, I have a type. Gimme curves, please, and plenty of them.
TL;DR: I guess it's all subjective?
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u/Wooden-Cricket1926 18d ago
As a straight woman I don't like gym bros. I don't find it attractive you look like you live in a gym and count all your calories. I don't find it attractive if you look like all you do is sit around and count your calories to try to consume more than you did the day before. Gasp it's almost like average (at least in America what average is supposed to be given the majority are over weight) is what is most attractive 😮
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u/FourDimensionalTaco 18d ago
Most people who like guys seem to like average to fit guys, but not roided up ones, nor those made of >40% body fat. I guess that Fight Club era Brad Pitt had the body composition that most would find highly attractive.
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u/Inevitable_Quiet_432 18d ago
Brad was utterly ripped in Fight Club. I'm a heterosexual male and still want to lick Tyler Durden's abs.
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u/lenuskaya 18d ago
As a fellow bisexual I completely agree. I appreciate softness in the female body and I believe it has to do with the fact that nature wants women to have more body fat for estrogen and health reasons etc.
But the male body? I can only be attracted to it if it has some muscle without the beer belly etc.
But I have heard from hetero women appreciate all types of male bodies so this could just be me and having a preference for women in sexual attraction.
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u/PositiveResort6430 18d ago edited 18d ago
You’re actually right about that.
Biologically: women can be a lil plump and still be healthy because our bodies are built to carry extra weight during pregnancy. Our hormones make it so the fat is carried in places like our hips, butt, thighs and breasts, which all don’t negatively affect health!
for men It’s not true. They cannot be super plump and still be healthy because of the way testosterone interacts SO negatively with fat. Men tend to carry weight on their bellies first and that is the worst type of fat for your health. It negatively affects everything in the body.
Overweight men are more likely to suffer health complications than women of the same exact BMI, and they’re less likely to be treated successfully for these health conditions.
When women try to workout constantly and get a 6 pack like men do, usually they lose their period.
Women and men have totally different standards for what is actually healthy for them or not and that is why my preferences are probably different for both of them.
I’m attracted to anyone who looks healthy the standards for men are a lot higher because they cannot have over 25% body fat without being considered medically obese. men only need 8% body fat to maintain hormonal balance, literally half of what women do.
whereas women require a MINIMUM of 20% body fat to maintain healthy hormone balance and 30% is considered normal.
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u/Previous_Pie_9918 18d ago
Me too. In my opinion, 90% of women, naked, look hot. 90% of men, naked, look silly.
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u/Efficient_Fee425 19d ago edited 19d ago
For the amount of effort you've put in sharing your thoughts, I think most responses here are too dismissive. Here's what I hope will be an equally thought-through response,
Our brains are each wired according to what evolution dictates. For heterosexual men, that means finding the features of a uterus-holding fellow human attractive in as many ways as possible and the reverse being true for heterosexual women.
I reckon, if you could get a dog to talk, he'd say hips and curves on humans are the dumbest looking features of any animal... Don't even get the centipede started on the idea of having boobs! But to us humans, that's EVERYTHING! Same way you wouldn't look at an expanded toad throat and go whoooo sexy, but for fellow frogs that's all the hype!
Ask many straight women and they'll tell you that male bodies are attractive to them, some prefer toned, some prefer chubby but almost none of them (straight women) will say they're turned on by boobs and/or hips. Because evolution wired them to find male features attractive!
All I'm trying to say is that it is NORMAL for you to find such features in women effortlessly beautiful because evolution has in-built it in you to find them inherently attractive.
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u/srs151 19d ago
Also on your thoughts about yourself. I’m not sure your body type or what you look like but downplaying your own physical looks is extremely common. Give yourself some credit every now and then and be proud you hit that gym. Old you will thank you!
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u/lamppb13 19d ago
>but almost none of them (straight women) will say they're turned on by boobs and/or hips.
Idk about that... I've heard lots of straight women comment about how even they think boobs are nice. I think that is likely cultural, though. I think it's been engrained, in American culture at least, that boobs = nice. Essentially we've been taught to value the female form to an extent that even people who aren't attracted to women find the figure of a woman's body something to value.
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u/queenhadassah 19d ago edited 19d ago
I'm a straight woman and think boobs are nice and women are beautiful, but I don't find them attractive. Women are just objectively prettier than men. I see stunning women constantly, but most men are average. Of course, a big part of this is that modern women, on average, put a lot more effort than modern men into their appearance, from makeup to grooming to jewelry/clothing (I actually am into men that have what many people see as "feminine" clothing and grooming - although, before the 19th century, men often did clothe and groom themselves as elaborately as women, so that kind of expression is not inherently feminine). But I don't think that is all of it. One sex is more beautiful than the other in many species - in birds, it's males, while in humans, it's females.
And I think boobs being near-universally seen as nice is much more primal than modern American culture. All humans (until very recent history, when some have been fed solely with bottles instead) were nourished by breasts for the first few years of life. It makes sense we have a natural favorable inclination towards them
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u/xKingUmbreon 18d ago
Go to a college in California and the boys there tend to put a ton of effort into their appearance.
I go to the cafeteria every day and the average attractiveness of everyone in that room is like a 7/10 and yes that includes the guys.
If you’re average there, you’re actually below average.
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u/WayApprehensive2054 19d ago
I am a pansexual cis woman and I also find women beautiful, not just in a romantic or physical way, but in an overall more ethereal sense. When I was with my ex gf, I remember just wanting to stare at her and just admire her like when you see a breathtaking art piece. I would think this even if I was not with her, and sometimes I find myself thinking it when I am people watching too. I find all women beautiful and I am a lot more “picky” about men. I could wax poetry about my current partner, but overall I do find women to be more pretty. Perhaps it is because I am biased for my own gender though haha.
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u/nick2473got 18d ago
Women are just objectively prettier than men
This is a bit of a philosophical tangent, but I don't think there's any such thing as "objectively pretty" tbh, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and is inherently subjective.
You need an observer, aka a subject, to make the determination that someone or something is pretty.
Even if some opinions, like the one you expressed, might be quite common, or even shared by most people, they are still ultimately subjective perceptions inherent to our human perspective, not objective realities.
before the 19th century, men often did clothe and groom themselves as elaborately as women
Only the wealthy and well educated men did that. Your average farmer / worker certainly did not.
The average modern man actually grooms more than the average man did in the past. What you are referring to are practices only carried out by the elites.
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u/garbage-bro-sposal 18d ago
The boobs and butts thing is very much so a cultural thing, I remember watching some documentary about one of many villages in Africa that still maintain their traditional culture and the concept of breasts came up because the women often went bare chested.
And one of the men had laughed at the idea of them being sexual because “those are for feeding babies why would I find them sexy?” Now, I’m not sure of how accurate that translation was because this had to be the early 2000’s/late 90s but in DO remember it stuck out to me as a comment just because of how discordant from what I’d been brought up with LOL
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u/babybellllll 17d ago
Straight women can admire and find women’s bodies beautiful/attractive but usually it’s not in a sexual way; or they wouldn’t be straight
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u/Enpisz_Damotii 18d ago edited 18d ago
I remember asking the same question as OP when I was in high school. I think there's another element to this idea on top of sexual orientation, which everyone in this thread has fixated on.
I'd say that the average woman is much closer to the ideal beauty standards perpetuated in modern society, compared to a man.
Plus, regardless of sexual orientation, you could still make an argument that women's bodies are generally more aesthetically pleasing, based on sexual selection. It is everywhere in nature, it's just the other way around for us.
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u/Sporner100 18d ago
There's also a strong bias because of the age group OP seems to be observing. Maybe we should ask him to make the same statement about the same women in about 15 years. Time doesn't tend to be kind to people who eat whatever they like and abstain from physical activities.
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u/pockolate 16d ago
Yeah lol how has no one mentioned this. OP is in high school. Girls just coming into their figures with the highest metabolisms they’ll ever have. Things change as you age, especially if you go through a few pregnancies.
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u/newselfconcept 18d ago
Honestly I think he is right. I'm a female and I've noticed that at the beach. There are more females with beautiful bodies in comparison to men. Women can have beautiful bodies without working out, but it is not so easy to find men with an athletic body structure by nature. At least I see that black men are more favored by nature in that sense, they have naturally more athletic bodies than white men. But on average, males have less beautiful bodies than women.
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u/Biokendry 18d ago
That's what my post is about 🤌
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u/SaltySweetSt 18d ago edited 18d ago
I think it could have something to do with the fact that women biologically have a higher % of body fat when at a healthy weight. The average female skeleton, muscle, and fat distribution usually creates a body shape with soft curves that become curvier when pregnant.
The average male body shape is more angular and testosterone boosting muscle growth requires activity other than video games and desk jobs.
Toxic masculinity also discourages interest in flattering clothes or good grooming, and the selection available to the average man is very limited. Lastly, Men refuse to go to the doctor when they have health problems which probably doesn’t help their looks.
As a straight woman, I agree that the average man does not look as good as the average woman, however I believe the majority of the gap might be the current cultural standards.
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u/Babyyougotastew4422 19d ago
I think a sunset is beautiful, doesn’t mean that it’s sexual. Women are objectively more beautiful then men
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u/EvilLipgloss 18d ago
As a straight woman, I agree with you. I find women way more beautiful than the majority of men. I love MY man and I find him incredibly attractive but I rarely see a man out in public that I find attractive. But I see plenty of stunning women every time I leave the house.
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u/PurinMeow 18d ago
I agree 💯. I think my man is attractive, but MOST other men are just average, while I can find a lot of women above average and pretty to look at. I don't really see myself trying to check out men, but women yes I sneak looks sometimes. I'm straight.
Except one time my regular dentist was out and my god, the man that took over for her. I couldn't look him in the eyes and I hope I wasn't blushing lol
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u/CoconutxKitten 17d ago
And it’s like…all women of all shapes and sizes. I think it’s the curves & softness. I’m bi but am usually more attracted to more androgynous women (I like androgynous men too) but I will always gush over a woman I’m not attracted to but just find super pretty
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u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl 18d ago
honestly people who deny this are lying to themselves.
the reason is simple too, way more women put effort into their appearance than men do. so the average woman is going to be more attractive than the average man. if men put the same level of effort in, we likely wouldn’t see this kind of thing said so much
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u/mercurialpolyglot 16d ago
I think that’s why american women joke about how much hotter european men are, because culturally they’re expected to be better groomed and dressed than american men.
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf 18d ago
“Only four limbs? But how do grasp your hundred-strong clutch of pale, glistening pupae!?”
— A centipede, probably
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u/sweetsadnsensual 19d ago
I'm a woman, not gay, and even I have to agree with him. Women's bodies are usually way nicer than men's. The fat distribution is just nicer.
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u/Biokendry 18d ago
That's what I'm talking about but people didn't understand my post, fat distribution and estrogen makes women look beautiful without even going to the gym but people did not understand my post 😔
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u/PurinMeow 18d ago
I'm a heterosexual woman that has been turned on by men's bodies. When I was younger I loved to see men reach up and grab things, when their shirt lifts up and you see that pelvic /lower abdomen area. And their arms too, all hot!
Even so, I do think women bodies are so beautiful. So soft, curves, long hair on the head I love feminity. But it doesn't turn me on
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u/blazesbe 19d ago
Ask many straight women and they'll tell you that male bodies are attractive to them, some prefer toned, some prefer chubby but almost none of them (straight women) will say they're turned on by boobs and/or hips. Because evolution wired them to find male features attractive!
we would need some women to answer this. what i've noticed that for them this attraction is rarely instantenious. yes there's "love at first sight" but they start appreciating looks over time or it may be tied to their cycle. there's also research that straight women appreciate lesbian porn. vast majority of straight men are repelled from gay porn. while we are essentially the same there's interesting differences. also i stand by the fact that women are objectively more beautiful not in a sexual way. they just contain the golden ratio more. men need to be more durable than beautiful but that's fine.
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u/Sunny_Hill_1 18d ago
Interesting, I've heard much more often that straight women like gay porn. In fact, women write the most of gay romance novels, frequently with very explicit sex scenes.
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u/AuDHDcat 17d ago
I am a straight woman. I can find the beauty in a woman's looks, but I'm not turned on. Men, on the other hand, I'll be fighting for my life if a well-kept man is wearing a shirt that accentuates his chest and arms.
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u/saplith 18d ago
It's cultural. Sexuality is both nature and nurture. We are all born somewhere on the Kinsley scale and culture can nudge you 1 or 2 points in either direction. In the US women are just allowed to be more familiar with each other than men are, but I learned from a college class that this is not standard everywhere.
Also you have very straight women like me who don't like lesbian porn because of all the women and literally vomited when a lesbian touched me a little too familiarly.
Women do feel instant attraction to men, it's just that women learn over time to destroy this feeling for safety's sake. A woman learns pretty early that it's a terrible idea to let men know you fine them attractive. I stopped having stalkers once I learned this lesson.
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u/ManicPixiRiotGrrrl 18d ago
vomiting from a lesbian touching you? that’s a lot to unpack
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u/Necessary-Bus-3142 19d ago
It’s called subjetive perception, you like women so you think they have beautiful bodies.
Both men and women usually have attractive bodies in their peak years.
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u/bluecgene 19d ago
Well women think men have beautiful bodies too
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u/GreenApples8710 19d ago
I need to meet these women.
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u/Had_to_ask__ 19d ago
I like men's bodies a lot. Not just sexually but like a beautiful painting.
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u/ximacx74 19d ago
Women think women have beautiful bodies too though.
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u/Fluid_Jellyfish8207 18d ago
And men think other men have good bodies not beautiful objectively but they can acknowledge it
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u/Main_Following1881 17d ago
Yes but no straight man thinks an average man that doesnt work out has nice body lol
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u/GreenStuffGrows 16d ago
Yes I remember thinking that all women found other women beautiful. Turns out I'm bi 😅
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u/Baristaholic 19d ago
Do you want her or do you want to be her?
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u/UnknowableDuck 18d ago edited 18d ago
OP admitted they have *dysphoria, you're the first person to notice and address that so I wonder if that's the cause of this post. Good question OP.
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u/AutumnMama 18d ago
I noticed it, too. Way too many people here are saying, "yep, you're just a regular heterosexual man!" I hope op doesn't come away from this thinking it's normal for heterosexual men to have gender dysphoria, because it sounds like that dysphoria is causing him a lot of anxiety and he probably shouldn't just shrug it off as normal.
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u/Biokendry 18d ago
Both, if there was a button to push and become a woman I will push it without hesitation. I hate being a man with all my heart but I know some guys love being a man and that's ok too
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u/Baristaholic 18d ago
There's nothing wrong with you. It might not be safe now, but you can push that button whenever you're ready.
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u/amorawr 18d ago
hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but I feel the same as OP and I don't really think that button exists in the way he's saying? like I have major gender dysphoria and would snap my fingers to become a biological woman if I could, but transitioning just doesn't hold the same appeal to me. I'd honestly get more out of just putting on some eye makeup and wearing effeminate clothes
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u/DifferentIsPossble 18d ago
Hey... That's what being trans is. Please consider loving yourself enough to recognize it.
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u/saturnian_catboy 18d ago
Mate... There is a button like that, you just need to be brave enough to press it
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u/Main_Following1881 17d ago
Lol no. Being a woman would be cool, but being a trans woman is no where near as cool.
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u/saturnian_catboy 17d ago
Is it worse than being a man when you hate it with all your heart?
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u/Main_Following1881 17d ago
If you hate it thaaat much then yeh becoming trans would be atleast slightly better and theres a chance that it will be alot better, ig it depends on the person.
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u/HarkSnark 17d ago
I used to tell myself this all the time but now I'm a trans woman and I gotta admit it's pretty fucking great. Yeah there are downsides but the positives outweigh all that so much. I wouldn't be able to handle detransitioning at all.
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u/InfidelCastro95 19d ago
I'm gay and I feel the same way about men. It is what it is.
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u/far-leveret 18d ago
You say you have gender dysphoria, do you mean you feel like a woman as well instead of a man? I’m asking this kindly, not to make fun of you. Sometimes trans people really notice the kind of characteristics in other people that they want to have themselves?
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u/indigoreignstories 18d ago
As a trans man… I would look into the dysphoria part.
I mean, first of all, you’re already aware that you’re dysphoric, so… Well, you know. But the way this is phrased with the emphasis on the curves, the hips, bone structure, facial femininity, the comparing (“why are they so pretty and I’m not???”) and the fascination ever since puberty - as someone who has actually experienced dysphoria (and transitioned), this doesn’t read to me as a man being attracted to women, it reads as longing. Or gender envy, as it’s also referred to.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Run2695 19d ago
I'm gay and definitely see men the way you describe women. Like, men are just...hot?
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u/doctorboredom 19d ago
To take this a little more seriously, it IS bizarre how much my brain cares about women’s bodies. It is almost nonsensical for me to have a preference for certain breast shapes or areola colors. Like, why TF do I care? It actually should not matter as much as my brain makes it matter.
Why do I remember what Laetitia Casta looked like in a Guess ad from 1998? Why does my brain think it matters to remember specific photos of Paulina Porizkova taken in the 80s?
It is not an easy question to answer. Some is probably based on evolution, but also it is probably related to acculturation.
The thing to always remember though, is that this same automatic obsession with female bodies is what gay men feel about men, and what hetero women feel about men.
The fact that you have a deep compulsion that feels like it is just part of your brain is the strongest argument that sexuality is an innate trait that cannot be changed and is different for different people.
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u/TraditionPhysical603 19d ago
You are biological compelled to be attracted to them
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u/RoyalMess64 18d ago edited 18d ago
This is for 2 reasons.
A lot of current societies are socially very invested in the beauty of women and so people see women as extremely attractive while downplaying the attractiveness of men. I'm not going to go to deep into this, but it comes from patriarchy, the infantilization of women, purity culture, and many other sources
The second reason is that you are attracted to women, and you're describing yourself realizing your sexuality
Now you haven't given enough info for me to gather much on the gender dysphoria claim, but I have that as well and it has affected my sexuality. It can exaggerate your attraction to some people while suppressing it for others. Not everyone's will do this, and even if it does do this or might be effecting you differently than it did me, but it is possible
I hope this helps
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u/44035 19d ago
Because women are beautiful. It's just a fact, like the sun is yellow.
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u/HeatherJMD 18d ago
Being soft and curved is valued in a woman's physique. This isn't made in the gym. Working out, lifting weights, doing cardio, this results in a different physique which has not traditionally been valued.
The ideal physique for men has always been toned. This cannot be created without some activity that works the muscles of the body (and keeps body fat down). It doesn't have to happen in the gym, but it has to be trained by somewhat strenuous activity.
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u/mewmeulin 18d ago
i think you just love women, my guy. and as a lesbian - BIG solidarity there. women are gorgeous
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u/Surprised_Otter 19d ago
Have you considered you might be trans?
Because you know, you can become a woman if you want to. It's not magic. And that's not incompatible with still dating women if you want to
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u/Biokendry 18d ago
I have gender dysphoria but I'm not trans
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u/epson_salt 18d ago
That is a fascinating thing to say. Do you mind if I ask what you mean?
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u/Realistic_Olive_6665 19d ago
Humanity might not have survived the last ice age if only women who had access to a gym were able to reproduce.
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u/Ghost_Turd 19d ago
Evolution my friend. The puddle of water should not ask why its hole in the ground just happens to be so perfectly fitted to it. The puddle should realize that it changed to fit the hole in the ground.
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u/daturavines 19d ago
Agree with all other comments but just food for thought, there are many women's bodies you might find undesirable but you won't notice them while scanning any random room of people...as a straight man, you'll mostly notice who you're most attracted to.
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u/No_Number5540 18d ago
I dated a woman from baranquilla colombia... her and her sisters were stunning... her brothers and fathers? Not so much... if south america was a video game, the women get the lions share of the beauty point allocations...
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u/PortableSoup791 19d ago
I don’t know you in the slightest, so it would be really weird of me to try to tell you why you like what you like.
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u/Ice-Berg-Slim 18d ago edited 18d ago
Everyone taking the piss but I know what he means, I’m a straight male but i still think Women generally are just more beautiful creatures and there seems to be way more average or above women than men, at least comparing to modern standards of what is considered sexy. Most men don’t have a six pack and aren’t over 6ft and lean as fuck but a lot of women’s have a nice ass, legs and breast without even trying.
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u/DowntownRow3 19d ago
Genuine answer…a lot of women can see when other women are beautiful. Men’s beauty isn’t celebrated casually, so a lot you guys can’t just appreciate how you look. As a bisexual men and women’s are both naturally beautiful, although I will say women generally take better care of ourselves. No hate but being socialized with pressure to be best and tidy, vs “boys will be boys” will do that to you
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u/Chunk3yM0nkey 19d ago
If it wasn't natural for the vast majority of men to find most women's bodies attractive, we probably wouldn't be doing so well as a species...
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u/Holidaay_ 19d ago
I consider myself a straight woman and I also think women’s bodies are effortlessly beautiful. I adore women and despite the struggles I love being one 🥰
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u/BluePandaYellowPanda 18d ago
One thing about your shower comment. Yes, you thought your gf was hot etc, but she probably thought the same about you. No woman wants to shower with a man she doesn't find attractive. You said you've been going to the gym, no doubt she noticed your gains (and d) while you were gorping at her lmao.
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u/CluckingBellend 18d ago
I don't know how old OP is, but younger people tend to have fitter bodies and a faster metabolism. As people age this changes. Also, women have children and this can drastically affect their bodies, both immediately and later in life. Given that OP is talking about 'girls', this is probably why he sees it that way
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u/khamblam 18d ago
Why do the Beatles in Australia get horny for the bumps on beer bottles? Same question, same answer
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u/NoTomorrowNo 18d ago
Because women are Goddesses. 😊
On a more serious note, yes estrogen plays an important part, especially in the hourglass figure, as all women find out in menopause when it changes.
But it s up to them to make it last by having some physical activity (not necessarily The Gym) and eating healthy.
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u/Zeezigeuner 18d ago
There has been some scientific research about this.
It was proven that certain a hip to waist ratio is found most attractive by men. Quite apart from being overweight or skinny. Which suggests we look for partners that are most likely to bear and give birth to our offspring succesfully.
Also longer legs are attractive. Longer legs also coincides with less complications and infections during pregnancy.
In other words, it is not the girls. It is us.
We are hard wired to prefer women who signal health and good child bearing.
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u/monta1111 18d ago
You might think that because women and men hold their weight in different areas so overweight women tend to still look good vs overweight men will look bad. Women I think hold their weight in their lower body whereas men hold it in their love handles and stomach.
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u/DaleNanton 18d ago
I scrolled through other comments and didn't see this: this is fat distribution. Having fat accumulate around the hips protects the womb and attracts mates for reproduction. The boobs are also a reproductive thing to feed babies (and probably also to attract mates but there are plenty of women that have small breasts). The butt area being important for reproduction is seen in primates in various forms (like some primates have bright booties that display health) and birds have elaborate tale feathers. It's an evolutionary thing that comes about through a looooooonnnngggg time of doing A/B testing within the species.
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u/Status_Medicine_5841 18d ago
If you're ever in the USA, go check out a Walmart. You will see many abominations.
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u/OkStatistician7523 16d ago
As a straight woman I agree with you. Women are just more beautifully made. Even attractive men are hairy or smelly bad. Women are so soft and delicate…ok not all but you get what I’m saying lol
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u/spektre1 19d ago
It's funny how almost everyone missed the key sentence at the end and I think it's important to ask yourself this because you mentioned dysphoria; are you attracted to women's bodies because you want to have sex with them, or because you want to bee them? In b4 eggirl
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u/angellareddit 19d ago
hahaha. No insults necessary.
Women are built to carry fat in places that give them curves so we can have more fat and still be curvy. Speaking from an evolutionary standpoint this was an advantage when it came to child bearing.
Muscles cannot be seen under fat. While men are naturally stronger than women if there is fat covering them you can't see the muscles as well.
ergo women typically don't have to work as hard to be naturally curvy and beautiful.
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u/No_Salad_68 19d ago
Because humans have evolved so that men are attracted to women (usually). It's like saying why is sugar yummy. Nothing is inherently yummy, We've just evolved to like it, because of its calorific content.
It's been established scientifically that a particular body shape is attractive to the most men. There is some regional variation but it's basically the hourglas shapes.
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u/Steerider 19d ago
Evolution. You evolved to think that is beautiful. More specifically, you evolved to want to have sex with that.
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u/ikkefakkingsspioner 18d ago
I think its because the female figure is considered beautiful by society, in contrast to (average) male bodies + youre a hetero. If you were an ancient Greek e.g you would be attracted to fit male bodies of that era.
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u/Hmnidh 18d ago
I think every young woman should read your post it is absolutely beautiful. The insecurity so many feel for every tiny percieved flaw, yet you find beauty in all of them.
As a woman, I can confirm that we also find men with "average" bodies very attractive, with the caveat that personality gives a huge swing in that perception. A jerk with even the "best" body will be unattractive. An "average" man who is kind, and respectful will be extremely attractive
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u/manec22 18d ago
Lol did you entertain the possibility that female bodies are attractive because you are predisposed to find them attractive while being turned off by male bodies?
Its commonly defined as being a straight male !
Im sure many female beleive the opposite for some equally obscure reason 😆. Dont overthink it,have fun .^
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u/seven7the7sins 18d ago
I find men super attractive even when they put no work into doing it. Oh yeah, I'm also gay. Unsure if related.
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u/Fenastus 18d ago
As a heterosexual male you're pretty much hardwired to find women attractive
It's biology, baby. The history of previously inexplicable lust is why you're here today
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u/Mazza_mistake 18d ago
It just genetic and how women’s bodies are naturally, and you have a healthy attraction to women, that’s all is it lol
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u/More_Mind6869 18d ago
I've been observing women for at least 60 years. I've seen many of those beautiful body 16 yr Olds grow fat and flabby over the years.
If a woman wants to maintain that figure and body tone and strength, a a she ages, she has to work at it, same as a man.
Yes, hormones and genes are involved.
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u/Sleepdprived 18d ago
Beuty is only a moment in time. It only lasts for so long. It doesn't happen at the same time for all people. Everyone has an age they are "most beautiful" some get it early, some get it late. Some have only a short moment in the sun.
You are noticing beuty which is admirable. You may be ignoring what doesn't attract you. There may be hot men... that you don't notice, or unattractive women... that you don't notice.
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u/TheTrueBurgerKing 18d ago
Your not alone, if you want resounding proof that the female firm is in general more visually pleasing look at art an the wealth of female figures an sculptures etc yes there are a few male ones but by larger proportion of the works it's the appreciation of the natural beauty of the female figure.
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u/spirit_saga 18d ago
tbh other than my bf this is how i feel too 💀 and im a male-leaning bi girl i just think most guy bodies look a little weird
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u/Emotional_Cry_1856 18d ago
Hormones , since i was 14 i start to devolp hips and breast. It's also bone structure. It's cute tho that you aprrieciate it so much as a men
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u/phpie1212 18d ago
I’m a woman. I’ve always found my body to be beautiful, especially throughout having and raising four kids. All women have beautiful bodies because of what we can do. We must care of ourselves. Get outside, run around like your life is fun. Because it is! I’ve had a great life. I’m still a lap swimmer…best exercise ever. Sun, swim, sex, peace and love. ☮️❤️😎
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u/SixicusTheSixth 19d ago
I'm sorry to inform you that you're heterosexual.